[Bradford] Video conferencing

[John Leach]

ah I think I can see the problem - when you access it using the
bradlame name to get IPv4, it still tries to use the ipv6 name in the
background.

Shi, if you add an A record to your bradlug.esyou.com host pointing to
the cloudip ipv4 address, it should just work now.

If I add the following to my /etc/hosts file it works for me!

109.107.35.217 bradlug.esyou.com

John.

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:36, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> PPS:
> If anyone else wants a crack at it, just let me know and I'll add you as a collaborator.
>
> For now, I'm done.
> --
> shi
>
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:08, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cool, thanks all. looks like there might be issues with ipv4 even with new info added to settings (thanks, John L).
>>
>> IPV6 should work tho I was restarting the server and doing things to it just now so it could be that you tried the URL at those times, John H!
>> I saw and heard Paul Colley earlier on Jitsi so this is working for one person at least.
>>
>> For now, I'm just going to leave the server/chat up and see if anyone else can log in.
>> It could be that we use the web service ;_;
>>
>> ps: am also gonna try the same stuff on our own servers and see what happens.
>> --
>> shi
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 18:53, John Robert Hudson <j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Shi
>>>
>>> Cannot get on with the IPv6 URL; using the IPv4 URL both chromium and Firefox
>>> put up invalid certificate messages but let me in through Advanced. However, I
>>> keep losing the network connection.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:01:32 GMT shi wrote:
>>> > BTW - if you're on IPV4, try this url:
>>> >
>>> > https://bradlame.esyou.com/BradLUG
>>> > Password (lol): windows
>>> >
>>> > It doesn't seem to work very well with IPV4, for us anyways.
>>> >
>>> > You can send a chat message to say it works for you.
>>> > I don't have video on but my mic may or may not be on.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > shi
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 15:18, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > Hi John,
>>> > >
>>> > > Done! If anyone wants to test it out - it lives here:
>>> > >
>>> > > https://bradlug.esyou.com/BradLUG
>>> > > Password (lol): windows
>>> > >
>>> > > I'll shut that off later in the day but people are welcome to test their
>>> > > mic/camera/desktop if they want to.
>>> > >
>>> > > Many thanks, John for the server - it was really easy to set up!
>>> > > Also thanks to Ben on Brightbox for answering some questions!
>>> > > --
>>> > > shi
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 13:58, John Robert Hudson via Bradford <
>>> > >
>>> > > bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> > >> HI Shi
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I would be happy if you would lead on this; I agree about using
>>> > >> Debian/Ubuntu
>>> > >> as a look at the Jitsi repos shows that that one is the most up-to-date
>>> > >> one.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> John
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:16:16 GMT John Leach via Bradford wrote:
>>> > >> > Thanks Shi!
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > We're all remote at Brightbox anyway and mostly use Google Meet which
>>> > >> > has been fine so far.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > but ok, if someone wants to lead this, just sign up at
>>> > >> > https://www.brightbox.com and name the organisation Bradlug - it'll
>>> > >> > get £50 free credit immediately anyway (all new accounts do), but I'll
>>> > >> > flag it as a freebie account after that anyway.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > You'll need to provide an SSH key so that when you build the server,
>>> > >> > it will be automatically installed. If you add some collaborators to
>>> > >> > the account first, their SSH keys will be installed on it too.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Having looked over the Jitsi specs, I'd recommend a 1G server. You'll
>>> > >> > need to map a Cloud IP to it too (unless everyone is on IPv6 :)
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Jitsu seems to push their Debian/Ubuntu packages most prominently, so
>>> > >> > I'd recommend one of those distros (we generally use Ubuntu).
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > John.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 11:57, shi via Bradford
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> > >> > > We are remote workers and have been at the mercy of clients when it
>>> > >>
>>> > >> comes
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > > to video conferencing (zoom and skype) but it has worked ok. I have
>>> > >>
>>> > >> also
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > > been 'attending' one-to-one cello lessons using the latter software
>>> > >>
>>> > >> for a
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > > few weeks now and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, in terms
>>> > >>
>>> > >> of
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > > logistics and clarity of facial expressions, sound, etc. Would be
>>> > >>
>>> > >> really
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > > good to try Jitsi!
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Many thanks for the offer, John - really appreciate it!
>>> > >> > > --
>>> > >> > > shi
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 11:51, John Robert Hudson via Bradford
>>> > >>
>>> > >> <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> Hi Brian
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> I think we need to give John L time to respond and set things up.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> John
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 10:55:21 GMT Brian A wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > May I be so bold as to suggest that we try this out on Thursday at
>>> > >> > >> > 19:30 UK
>>> > >> > >> > time, if that time be convenient to interested parties. John has
>>> > >> > >> > experience
>>> > >> > >> > of using Jitsi,  so maybe you could set it up John and pass on
>>> > >> > >> > instructions??
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > Brian
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > ________________________________
>>> > >> > >> > From: Bradford <bradford-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk> on behalf of
>>> > >>
>>> > >> John
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > Robert Hudson via Bradford <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> Sent:
>>> > >> > >> > Thursday,
>>> > >> > >> > March 19, 2020 11:20:54 AM
>>> > >> > >> > To: bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>;
>>> > >> > >> > bernie at skipole.co.uk <bernie at skipole.co.uk> Cc: Bernard Czenkusz
>>> > >> > >> > <bernie.skipole at gmail.com>
>>> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [Bradford] Video conferencing
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > Hi Bernie
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > I agree. If you are happy to go down that line, John, I am sure a
>>> > >>
>>> > >> lot
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > of
>>> > >> > >> > people would appreciate it. When you made the original offer, I
>>> > >> > >> > was
>>> > >> > >> > wondering if it would be worth it just for BradLUG, but if it were
>>> > >> > >> > practical to make the offer more widely available to
>>> > >> > >> > non-commercial
>>> > >> > >> > groups
>>> > >> > >> > for the next three months, say, that might also help a lot of
>>> > >>
>>> > >> people to
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > become familiar with it.
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > John
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > On Thursday, 19 March 2020 10:03:27 GMT Bernard Czenkusz via
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Bradford
>>> > >>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > > Hi guys,
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > > This sounds interesting, if it works well it may be of interest
>>> > >>
>>> > >> to
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > Brightbox to offer it as a service, since I know my wife's Yoga
>>> > >>
>>> > >> class
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > is
>>> > >> > >> > > under threat, and presumably other excercise, yoga, pilates and
>>> > >>
>>> > >> other
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > classes. All of which may be topical in the current situation.
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > >   Bernie
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > > On 18/03/2020 15:44, John Leach via Bradford wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > > > Hi Brian,
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > > my company, Brightbox, would be happy to give bradlug a server
>>> > >>
>>> > >> and
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > > some bandwidth for free to have a go with self-hosting Jitsi
>>> > >> > >> > > > if
>>> > >> > >> > > > you'd
>>> > >> > >> > > > like.
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > > I'm interested in Jitsi myself too so would be curious about
>>> > >>
>>> > >> how
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > > you
>>> > >> > >> > > > get on with it
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > > Let me know if that's of interest.
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > > John.
>>> > >> > >> > > > --
>>> > >> > >> > > > https://www.brightbox.com
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 13:27, John Robert Hudson via Bradford
>>> > >> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >> > > > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > > >> Hi Brian
>>> > >> > >> > > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >> Jitsi certainly seemed a good option the last time I looked
>>> > >>
>>> > >> at it.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >> John
>>> > >> > >> > > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >> On Wednesday, 18 March 2020 10:22:05 GMT bradlug--- via
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Bradford
>>> > >>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> Following John's suggestion for a virtual meeting, I have,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> this
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> morning,
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> taken a brief look at what is available to facilitate that.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Jitsi
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> seems
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> to
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> be a good option. It is free to use, self host if you want,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> and
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> Open
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> Source. For me that ticks all the boxes, though I am not
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> suggesting
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> self
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> hosting due to the presumed large bandwidth required. Hence,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> the
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> question
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> is, do you think this is a good choice and, if so, who would
>>> > >>
>>> > >> like
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> to
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> try
>>> > >> > >> > > >>> this out? Brian
>>> > >> > >> > > >>
>>> > >> > >> > > >> --
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