From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 10:05:34 2007 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:05:34 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Fwd: Open Source Developers and Users Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Patrick O'Connor Date: Jul 1, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Open Source Developers and Users Survey To: patrick.oconnor at sysadmin.ie Hi, My name is Patrick O'Connor and I am currently doing a dissertation in fulfillment of a Masters in MIS . I was wondering if you wouldn't mind posting this mail onto your list. I've created a survey which guides participants in ascertaining their reasons for developing / using open source. I'll be using the results as some sort of empirical evidence showing developers and users motivation. If you are not a user / developer of open source software then you need not complete the survey, although these days its pretty rare to find people that aren't! If you have 5 minutes I'd really appreciate you taking the time to complete it. As a bonus I'm offering a prize pool up to €200 (€50 per 50 participants up to €200) to be given to those who would like to be entered into a raffle. I'll also give the results and / or a copy of the thesis once its completed to anyone who's interested. http://survey.patrickoconnor.ie/index.php?sid=1 Thanks in Advance, Patrick O'Connor http://patrickoconnor.ie/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:46:14 2007 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:46:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet Message-ID: Hi all, Yes it's that time of the month again - the July LUG meet is this Thursday (26th). The usual details; 7pm at The Old King's Head, Lower Bridge Street, Chester. See you there Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcgibson at talktalk.net Mon Jul 23 13:51:32 2007 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:51:32 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A4B271.6040202@talktalk.net> Sorry, I'm away Curtalling in Wiltshire this week - Roger. Les Pritchard said the following on 23/07/2007 14:46: > Hi all, > > Yes it's that time of the month again - the July LUG meet is this > Thursday (26th). The usual details; 7pm at The Old King's Head, Lower > Bridge Street, Chester. > > See you there > > Les > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 22/07/2007 19:02 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcgibson at talktalk.net Mon Jul 23 14:15:08 2007 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:15:08 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A4B803.9080307@talktalk.net> Please will the Moderator tell me why she does not like me. Les Pritchard said the following on 23/07/2007 14:46: > Hi all, > > Yes it's that time of the month again - the July LUG meet is this > Thursday (26th). The usual details; 7pm at The Old King's Head, Lower > Bridge Street, Chester. > > See you there > > Les > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 22/07/2007 19:02 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 14:19:04 2007 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:19:04 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: <46A4B803.9080307@talktalk.net> References: <46A4B803.9080307@talktalk.net> Message-ID: You've obviously upset her in a past life :-) On 7/23/07, Roger Gibson wrote: > > Please will the Moderator tell me why she does not like me. > > Les Pritchard said the following on 23/07/2007 14:46: > > Hi all, > > Yes it's that time of the month again - the July LUG meet is this Thursday > (26th). The usual details; 7pm at The Old King's Head, Lower Bridge Street, > Chester. > > See you there > > Les > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.ukhttps://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 22/07/2007 19:02 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 18:45:50 2007 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:45:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll be coming. See you there! On 23/07/07, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > Yes it's that time of the month again - the July LUG meet is this Thursday > (26th). The usual details; 7pm at The Old King's Head, Lower Bridge Street, > Chester. > > See you there > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 18:55:56 2007 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:55:56 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] FTP Appliances Message-ID: It's a long shot but does anyone know of either a) A decent, inexpensive file transfer appliance (less than the $4000 of the accellion devices) or b) Where I can download an application that does the same thing. Basically I resent having to go to almost multi terabyte mail servers for 109 users! So I need a user friendly person to person ftp setup thats incredably easy to use. This would keep the 200MB file attachments off email. And also I can't implement file size limiting because its a political decision. Any ideas? Stu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Mon Jul 23 19:28:56 2007 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:28:56 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200707232028.46324.dh@iucr.org> On Monday 23 July 2007, Stuart Burns wrote: > I'll be coming. See you there! > > On 23/07/07, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Yes it's that time of the month again - the July LUG meet is this > > Thursday (26th). The usual details; 7pm at The Old King's Head, Lower > > Bridge Street, Chester. > > > > See you there > > > > Les > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester can't make it this week, I'll see you next time. Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From george at goatadsl.co.uk Tue Jul 24 08:23:21 2007 From: george at goatadsl.co.uk (George) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:23:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] FTP Appliances In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A5B6C7.4050501@goatadsl.co.uk> Stuart Burns wrote: > It's a long shot but does anyone know of either a) A decent, inexpensive > file transfer appliance (less than the $4000 of the accellion devices) > or b) Where I can download an application that does the same thing. It depends really how incredibly easy incredibly easy is... Both WebDAV and SFTP (via WinSCP) are quite easy to use but they still might not be easy enough. I haven't any experience of web based ones but even if you had to write one yourself it should be possible to put one together within a day at most. You shouldn't have to bother with authentication, a one time random URL for each uploaded set of files e-mailed to the intended recipient should be fine. If you retain the leave large file attachments enabled on the mail server then there's going to be no incentive for people to remember to do this other thing though. You could perhaps use a filter on your mail server to strip out all the attachments, save them to another server and put a hyperlink to their new location in-line in the message. Of course whatever method you use for this you still have the problem that the files are stored somewhere on your network using up space. Another, more BOFH'ish solution is you apply a size limit but make it random somehow. If people ask about it say that e-mail is unreliable for large attachments and suggest they resend. Soon they'll learn the error of their ways. Mwhahahahaahahaahahahaahaha. Ahem. George From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 09:08:52 2007 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:08:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] FTP Appliances In-Reply-To: <46A5B6C7.4050501@goatadsl.co.uk> References: <46A5B6C7.4050501@goatadsl.co.uk> Message-ID: George you grossly overestimate my programing ability. 10 PRINT "HELLO 20 GOTO 10 is about my limit. I'd love to deploy a linux machine, because for starts on cost basis alone a W2K3 licence is over £400 and the server only cost £190 brand new from Dell with our discount (Ok so its not RAID but its not needed here really). Then EFTP (Windows only at another £1000ish). Windows licencing gets expensive, quickly! On a seperate note this Accellion, whats the odds is BSD based ? ;) Once we do have something in place though George, its gonna be BOFH time because its going to be 5MB limits! I can see the tears and tantrums now :) On 24/07/07, George wrote: > > Stuart Burns wrote: > > It's a long shot but does anyone know of either a) A decent, inexpensive > > file transfer appliance (less than the $4000 of the accellion devices) > > or b) Where I can download an application that does the same thing. > > It depends really how incredibly easy incredibly easy is... Both WebDAV > and SFTP (via WinSCP) are quite easy to use but they still might not be > easy enough. > > I haven't any experience of web based ones but even if you had to write > one yourself it should be possible to put one together within a day at > most. You shouldn't have to bother with authentication, a one time > random URL for each uploaded set of files e-mailed to the intended > recipient should be fine. > > If you retain the leave large file attachments enabled on the mail > server then there's going to be no incentive for people to remember to > do this other thing though. You could perhaps use a filter on your mail > server to strip out all the attachments, save them to another server and > put a hyperlink to their new location in-line in the message. Of course > whatever method you use for this you still have the problem that the > files are stored somewhere on your network using up space. > > Another, more BOFH'ish solution is you apply a size limit but make it > random somehow. If people ask about it say that e-mail is unreliable for > large attachments and suggest they resend. Soon they'll learn the error > of their ways. Mwhahahahaahahaahahahaahaha. Ahem. > > George > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smedley358 at btinternet.com Mon Jul 23 19:27:55 2007 From: smedley358 at btinternet.com (Richard Smedley) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:27:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [GeekUp] Fwd: [man-lug] Announcing Manchester Free Software] Message-ID: <1185219100.4147.338.camel@GNU-Mac-II.bradwall> -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Michael Sparks To: connect at geekup.org Subject: [GeekUp] Fwd: [man-lug] Announcing Manchester Free Software Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:50:30 +0100 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [man-lug] Announcing Manchester Free Software Date: Monday 23 July 2007 00:26 From: Matt Lee To: Man-lug , linux-users at lists.man.ac.uk Free Software! Starting today, I am announcing the creation of Manchester Free Software. This group exists to promote the mission of GNU/Linux and Free Software around the Manchester area. People interested in GNU/Linux and free software as an ethical choice are encouraged to join the group, via the mailing list, and help shape the organisation. http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsuk-manchester Why do we need this group? It is my opinion that while the LUG and BSD groups are fairly active, as well as the University's own group, there is a distinct group of individuals from the area who are actively working with free software from a position of ethics and there is no obvious place for these people to exist and discuss matters. Further, there is an obvious and ugly sentiment against those who favour Free Software as an ethical choice from a few individuals. There is also the GNU/Linux Social Scene from GWANNO. How you can contribute Help shape the organisation into the kind of group where issues like GNU/Linux, DRM, Free Software, Free Drivers, Campaigning against proprietary media formats and Free Software Licensing can be discussed openly and freely, without fear of trolling from a vocal minority and where individuals can make a difference. We have a website - http://manchester.fsuk.org/ and a mailing list:- http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsuk-manchester If you are the kind of person who would like to know more about Free Software, about the GNU Project and about GNU/Linux and issues surrounding these, please join our mailing list. matt Manchester Free Software ------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________ http://geekup.org/wiki/ http://jobboard.geekup.org/ From les.pritchard at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 19:17:19 2007 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:17:19 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet Message-ID: Hi all, I'm afraid I won't be attending this month's meet as my father passed away this afternoon. I hope you all have a good meet and I'll see you next month. Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fgaughan at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 19:46:42 2007 From: fgaughan at gmail.com (Fintan Gaughan) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:46:42 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry to hear that les.... my condolences to you and family Fintan -- My Blog http://www.finllfixit.co.uk/ On 24/07/07, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm afraid I won't be attending this month's meet as my father passed away > this afternoon. > > I hope you all have a good meet and I'll see you next month. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > From dh at iucr.org Wed Jul 25 09:27:48 2007 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:27:48 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200707251027.36787.dh@iucr.org> On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm afraid I won't be attending this month's meet as my father passed away > this afternoon. > > I hope you all have a good meet and I'll see you next month. > > Les Dear Les I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, please accept my condolences. 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