From rcgibson at talktalk.net Sat Oct 6 20:09:31 2007 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:09:31 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Getting files off a sata hard drive Message-ID: <4707EB63.1060604@talktalk.net> Hi folks. I'm in a fix and trying to go off next week. At a Charity I help, a 9 month old PC has gone down totally dead, although there is a light showing inside. I can set about sorting this through suppliers, but I need to get some files off the hard drive very quick, like tomorrow or v early on Monday. It is a Windoze machine, but I done similar things off a sick machine using a live Knoppix CD. I did not realise how easy it is to get Word files etc off the fixed hard disc. Shows how necessary it is to use encryption with Windows. However this machine is dead dead. I've tried on Patrick's (he is the young lad who came with me a couple of times, and is now a total Linux convert) home made machine, which uses IDE as /hda1 etc, but has SATA sockets, but I can not get the bios to see the SATA drive. Anyone any ideas. I've no access to any other SATA machines, but if anyone near Chester can help me out, either with advice as to how to do it on Patrick's machine, or could spare half an hour tomorrow to try on their own set up, I would be very grateful. I'll drive anywhere within Cheshire. Then I can make a copy of the files on to CD, DVD or whatever, and put on a laptop at the Charity, and go off for a few days holiday and sort stuff out when I get back. If anyone can help, I'd be most grateful, or know of a helpful computer techie, please give me a call 01829 720283 or 07764 186942. And yes I do preach about back ups, but they turned off the remote back up drive, and did nothing else about it. The one 'shop' I did get to before it shut, I got a load of talk about problems with security etc on Windows, designed to stop moving hardware around. When I produced my Knoppix live CD he flinched and said he had heard of Linux, and that it could do clever things, but he could not afford to lose his Microsoft Accreditation. From george at goatadsl.co.uk Sat Oct 6 21:15:45 2007 From: george at goatadsl.co.uk (George) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:15:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Getting files off a sata hard drive In-Reply-To: <4707EB63.1060604@talktalk.net> References: <4707EB63.1060604@talktalk.net> Message-ID: <4707FAA4.7090602@goatadsl.co.uk> Roger Gibson wrote: > Hi folks. > > I'm in a fix and trying to go off next week. > > At a Charity I help, a 9 month old PC has gone down totally dead, > although there is a light showing inside. This would make me suspect the suspect the PSU. Don't let the light fool you - they frequently show just enough power to light an LED on the motherboard or the front of the case but they won't switch on when you press the power button. > I did > not realise how easy it is to get Word files etc off the fixed hard > disc. Shows how necessary it is to use encryption with Windows. And with Linux for that matter :) > However this machine is dead dead. I've tried on Patrick's (he is the > young lad who came with me a couple of times, and is now a total Linux > convert) home made machine, which uses IDE as /hda1 etc, but has SATA > sockets, but I can not get the bios to see the SATA drive. As you say their machine is very new I would examine the drive (or look on the manufacturer's website) to see if it mentions a jumper to switch between SATA and SATA-II behavior. If Patrick's machine is an older one then it might only be able to see the drives in SATA mode. I would also go through the BIOS and double check that all the onboard SATA chipsets are enabled and set to look for drives etc. simple stuff like that. When you booted up the machine did the drive spin up as you would expect? If it is the PSU that's gone there is a chance that it's done for your drive as well. George From rcgibson at talktalk.net Sat Oct 6 21:39:03 2007 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:39:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Getting files off a sata hard drive In-Reply-To: <4707FAA4.7090602@goatadsl.co.uk> References: <4707EB63.1060604@talktalk.net> <4707FAA4.7090602@goatadsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <4708005E.8070305@talktalk.net> Thanks George. Although we got the info off the web, and thought we had jumpers right, we tried most jumper options. All the BIOS slots were set to auto. We even disconnected the IDE disc to see if this was inhibiting looking any further. I'll look into SATA and SATA-II, but thought we had that covered. The disc was certainly getting warm, but I did not try listening specifically to it. The Windose slave said he could see all the users on the disc, so I presume it is working at least somewhat. I expect to pay for a fix, but I don't really want to go back to him and admit Linux did not come to the rescue. George said the following on 06/10/2007 22:14: > Roger Gibson wrote: >> Hi folks. >> >> I'm in a fix and trying to go off next week. >> >> At a Charity I help, a 9 month old PC has gone down totally dead, >> although there is a light showing inside. > > This would make me suspect the suspect the PSU. Don't let the light > fool you - they frequently show just enough power to light an LED on > the motherboard or the front of the case but they won't switch on when > you press the power button. > > > I did >> not realise how easy it is to get Word files etc off the fixed hard >> disc. Shows how necessary it is to use encryption with Windows. > > And with Linux for that matter :) > >> However this machine is dead dead. I've tried on Patrick's (he is >> the young lad who came with me a couple of times, and is now a total >> Linux convert) home made machine, which uses IDE as /hda1 etc, but >> has SATA sockets, but I can not get the bios to see the SATA drive. > > As you say their machine is very new I would examine the drive (or > look on the manufacturer's website) to see if it mentions a jumper to > switch between SATA and SATA-II behavior. If Patrick's machine is an > older one then it might only be able to see the drives in SATA mode. > > I would also go through the BIOS and double check that all the onboard > SATA chipsets are enabled and set to look for drives etc. simple stuff > like that. > > When you booted up the machine did the drive spin up as you would > expect? If it is the PSU that's gone there is a chance that it's done > for your drive as well. > > George > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > From r.downing at dl.ac.uk Mon Oct 22 12:04:41 2007 From: r.downing at dl.ac.uk (Roger Downing) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:04:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Hi Message-ID: <200710221304.26625.r.downing@dl.ac.uk> Hi there, I saw this LUG advertised in the current issue of Linux Format, is it still active? My signature below gives most of me away I guess. I've used Linux off and on for about 9 years now, and exclusively for the last 3.5 years as part of my job. My current interests include viability of Linux as a home media system and the indoctrination of my offspring in the ways of the Penguin! Cheers, -- Roger Downing eScience systems administrator STFC Daresbury Laboratories Keckwick Lane Warrington WA4 4AD Tel: 01925 603937 From dh at iucr.org Mon Oct 22 15:15:54 2007 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:15:54 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Hi In-Reply-To: <200710221304.26625.r.downing@dl.ac.uk> References: <200710221304.26625.r.downing@dl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200710221615.17922.dh@iucr.org> On Monday 22 October 2007, Roger Downing wrote: > Hi there, > I saw this LUG advertised in the current issue of Linux Format, is it still > active? > > My signature below gives most of me away I guess. I've used Linux off and > on for about 9 years now, and exclusively for the last 3.5 years as part of > my job. My current interests include viability of Linux as a home media > system and the indoctrination of my offspring in the ways of the Penguin! > > Cheers, Hello Roger, yes its still active. I think we may have a meeting this week (Les?) its usually a social meeting in The Old King's Head from 7pm on the last thursday of the month. Cheers, Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 22:04:04 2007 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:04:04 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Hi In-Reply-To: <200710221615.17922.dh@iucr.org> References: <200710221304.26625.r.downing@dl.ac.uk> <200710221615.17922.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: Hi Roger, welcome along. I'm glad to hear that Linux Format have finally included us! David's right, we have our next social meet on Thursday (it's normally the last Thursday of the month). You're welcome to come along, just keep an eye out for a group of guys talking tech! There's a Google calendar feed which you can view / subscribe to for all the future social meets. At the moment, the group is more active in face to face discussions than on the list, but we're still relatively young. Calendar Feed: HTML: http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=md5fva58e2b141jdnafhomloig%40group. calendar.google.com XML: http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/md5fva58e2b141jdnafhomloig%40group. calendar.google.com/public/basic ICAL: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/md5fva58e2b141jdnafhomloig%40group. calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics Les On 10/22/07, David Holden wrote: > > On Monday 22 October 2007, Roger Downing wrote: > > Hi there, > > I saw this LUG advertised in the current issue of Linux Format, is it > still > > active? > > > > My signature below gives most of me away I guess. I've used Linux off > and > > on for about 9 years now, and exclusively for the last 3.5 years as part > of > > my job. My current interests include viability of Linux as a home media > > system and the indoctrination of my offspring in the ways of the > Penguin! > > > > Cheers, > > Hello Roger, yes its still active. I think we may have a meeting this week > (Les?) its usually a social meeting in The Old King's Head from 7pm on the > last thursday of the month. > > Cheers, > > Dave. > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smedley358 at btinternet.com Thu Oct 11 21:45:18 2007 From: smedley358 at btinternet.com (Richard Smedley) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:45:18 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [CovLUG-Chat] Mother's ire puts Ballmer on defense over Vista] Message-ID: <1192137822.4287.384.camel@GNU-Mac-II.bradwall> Schadenfreude ;) -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Bernard Giltrap http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9041959&intsrc=hm_list "Let's start with the end user. Your daughter saw a lot of value," said Ballmer. "She's 13," Genovese shot back. At the moment Ballmer has got to be the best advert for Linux available :) Bern -- Please consider making a donation to CovLUG! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Email: chat at lists.covlug.org.uk Website: http://www.covlug.org.uk -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To unsubscribe, send an email with 'unsubscribe chat' in the BODY of the message to: majordomo at lists.covlug.org.uk From rcgibson at talktalk.net Fri Oct 26 10:23:41 2007 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:23:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [CovLUG-Chat] Mother's ire puts Ballmer on defense over Vista] In-Reply-To: <1192137822.4287.384.camel@GNU-Mac-II.bradwall> References: <1192137822.4287.384.camel@GNU-Mac-II.bradwall> Message-ID: <4721C002.9050905@talktalk.net> Richard. This just got to me 15 days late. Message source copied in here in case you want to follow up. I received this message on time via the South Cheshire LUG. - Roger. 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If you have any query please contact postmaster at lug.org.uk X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk at Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:45:13 +0000 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:54:00 +0100 Cc: Dewa GNU Users Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [CovLUG-Chat] Mother's ire puts Ballmer on defense over Vista] X-BeenThere: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: smedley358 at btinternet.com, chester at mailman.lug.org.uk List-Id: chester.mailman.lug.org.uk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: chester-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: chester-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk X-STA-Metric: 0 (engine=024) X-STA-NotSpam: url:mailman url:listinfo header:Errors-To:1 skip:__ 40 "let's X-STA-Spam: subject:Chat subject:Vista vista bern from:addr:btinternet X-BTI-AntiSpam: score:0,sta:0/024,dcc:passed,dnsbl:passed,sw:off,bsn:0/passed,spf:none,dk:off,pbmf:none,ipr:0/8,trusted:no,ts:no,bs:no,ubl:passed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.503 [269.15.11/1093] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Schadenfreude ;) -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Bernard Giltrap http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9041959&intsrc=hm_list "Let's start with the end user. Your daughter saw a lot of value," said Ballmer. "She's 13," Genovese shot back. At the moment Ballmer has got to be the best advert for Linux available :) Bern -- Please consider making a donation to CovLUG! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Email: chat at lists.covlug.org.uk Website: http://www.covlug.org.uk -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To unsubscribe, send an email with 'unsubscribe chat' in the BODY of the message to: majordomo at lists.covlug.org.uk _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: 25/10/2007 17:38 Richard Smedley said the following on 11/10/2007 22:23: > Schadenfreude ;) > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Bernard Giltrap > > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9041959&intsrc=hm_list > > > "Let's start with the end user. Your daughter saw a lot of value," said > Ballmer. > > "She's 13," Genovese shot back. > > At the moment Ballmer has got to be the best advert for Linux available :) > > Bern > > -- > Please consider making a donation to CovLUG! > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Email: chat at lists.covlug.org.uk > Website: http://www.covlug.org.uk > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To unsubscribe, send an email with 'unsubscribe chat' in > the BODY of the message to: majordomo at lists.covlug.org.uk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 11:15:33 2007 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:15:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [CovLUG-Chat] Mother's ire puts Ballmer on defense over Vista] In-Reply-To: <4721C002.9050905@talktalk.net> References: <1192137822.4287.384.camel@GNU-Mac-II.bradwall> <4721C002.9050905@talktalk.net> Message-ID: Hi Roger, This email got stuck in the mailman filter, a lot like yours still do!! I don't know why it was blocked, but mailman didn't think to tell me it was there until this morning, when I released it. It got there in the end! Les On 10/26/07, Roger Gibson wrote: > > Richard. This just got to me 15 days late. Message source copied in > here in case you want to follow up. I received this message on time via > the South Cheshire LUG. - Roger. > > From - Fri Oct 26 10:57:49 2007 > X-Account-Key: account2 > X-UIDL: UID9268-1166369128 > X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > X-Mozilla-Keys: > > Envelope-to: rcgibson at talktalk.net > Received: from wmsmtp.opaltelecom.net ([ 62.24.128.253] > helo=TTP-3.talktalk.net) > by mailin-1.opaltelecom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) > id 1IlLtW-0006bl-Kl > for rcgibson at talktalk.net; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:54:22 +0100 > Received: from postiea.theiet.org ([ 135.196.15.41]) > by TTP-3.talktalk.net with ESMTP; 26 Oct 2007 10:54:07 +0100 > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAGZWIUeHxA8pimdsb2JhbACOXgIBCAQFCCI > X-IronPort-AV: i="4.21,332,1188774000"; > d="scan'208"; a="230027072:sNHT8188060761" > Received: from kemeny.theiet.org ( kemeny.theiet.org [135.196.15.11]) > by postiea.theiet.org (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP > id 42ED8D1CFL; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:52:48 +0100 (BST) > Received: from postieb.theiet.org (postieb.theiet.org [135.196.15.51]) > by kemeny.theiet.org (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.2) with ESMTP id > Z9Q92K26U00001168 > for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:56:08 +0100 > Received: from xinit.lug.org.uk (xinit.lug.org.uk [217.147.93.68]) > by postieb.theiet.org (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with SMTP > id 194B393EX2 > for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:57:51 +0100 (BST) > Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo= xinit.lug.org.uk) > by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) > id 1IlLtA-0004jo-00 ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:54:00 +0100 > > GOT STUCK HERE > > Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) > by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1Ig5qI-0006j3-00 > for chester at mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:45:18 +0100 > Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) > by mail-in-01.lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 4.63) > (envelope-from ) id 1Ig5py-00069P-JY > for chester at mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:45:13 +0000 > Received: (qmail 24530 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2007 21:20:03 -0000 > DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d= > btinternet.com; > > > h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Content-Type:Organization:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; > > b=qek2WE4hOHpHi2A1Rv4e2Ob6OakvPPTG8JjlSeK7OYATO+o8dQexzqsrlxV+nvyesdKSk6tPvrCqp9iqJjHyTgqJEG4j979vGgL4dhVrxiDwUNKkrGI37iqhxhLymnSJIZO57thBhVNYeHRCJB2T0aiXqO/bxsC7fZpll9ooPHE= > > ; > Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.72?) > (smedley358 at btinternet.com@81.152.139.49 with plain) > by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2007 21:20:03 -0000 > X-YMail-OSG: > > aNJt4k4VM1kq0SPilASPpr.HCzyuCPkH6OhK42ZMtW7LMdFcqsNqUvqu3mV9fXOJmq7xmQo5YTpYrX.23VZahMlERHS7QHpAbZBcNCA3GUpoHgE6VN5L1KHSK4c > - > From: Richard Smedley < smedley358 at btinternet.com> > To: South Cheshire GNU Users > Organization: M6-IT C.I.C. > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:23:42 +0100 > Message-Id: < 1192137822.4287.384.camel at GNU-Mac-II.bradwall> > X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 > X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=- 2.6 required=5.0autolearn=unavailable > version=3.1.7-deb; > pts rule name description > -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% > [score: 0.0000] > 0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list > Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Thu, > 11 Oct 2007 21:45:13 +0000. > If you have any query please contact postmaster at lug.org.uk > X-lug.org.uk-Virus-Scanner: Scanned by ClamAV on mail-in-01.lug.org.uk > at Thu, > 11 Oct 2007 21:45:13 +0000 > X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:54:00 +0100 > Cc: Dewa GNU Users < chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> > Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [CovLUG-Chat] Mother's ire puts Ballmer on > defense over Vista] > X-BeenThere: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: smedley358 at btinternet.com, chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > List-Id: chester.mailman.lug.org.uk > List-Unsubscribe: , > > List-Archive: > List-Post: > List-Help: > List-Subscribe: , > > Sender: chester-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk > Errors-To: chester-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk > X-STA-Metric: 0 (engine=024) > X-STA-NotSpam: url:mailman url:listinfo header:Errors-To:1 skip:__ 40 > "let's > X-STA-Spam: subject:Chat subject:Vista vista bern from:addr:btinternet > X-BTI-AntiSpam: > > score:0,sta:0/024,dcc:passed,dnsbl:passed,sw:off,bsn:0/passed,spf:none,dk:off,pbmf:none,ipr:0/8,trusted:no,ts:no,bs:no,ubl:passed > X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.503 [269.15.11/1093] > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain > > Schadenfreude ;) > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Bernard Giltrap > > > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9041959&intsrc=hm_list > > > "Let's start with the end user. Your daughter saw a lot of value," said > Ballmer. > > "She's 13," Genovese shot back. > > At the moment Ballmer has got to be the best advert for Linux available :) > > Bern > > -- > Please consider making a donation to CovLUG! > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Email: chat at lists.covlug.org.uk > Website: http://www.covlug.org.uk > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To unsubscribe, send an email with 'unsubscribe chat' in > the BODY of the message to: majordomo at lists.covlug.org.uk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: > 25/10/2007 17:38 > > > > > > Richard Smedley said the following on 11/10/2007 22:23: > > Schadenfreude ;) > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Bernard Giltrap > > > > > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9041959&intsrc=hm_list > > > > > > > "Let's start with the end user. Your daughter saw a lot of value," said > > Ballmer. > > > > "She's 13," Genovese shot back. > > > > At the moment Ballmer has got to be the best advert for Linux available > :) > > > > Bern > > > > -- > > Please consider making a donation to CovLUG! > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Email: chat at lists.covlug.org.uk > > Website: http://www.covlug.org.uk > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > To unsubscribe, send an email with 'unsubscribe chat' in > > the BODY of the message to: majordomo at lists.covlug.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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