From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 09:10:06 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:10:06 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Linux Format Message-ID: Hi all, I got some of those magazines in the end, sadly turned up just after the social. They've also sent me a couple of other back issues so I'll bring them all along to our next meeting. Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 17:11:27 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:11:27 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Linux Format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Any other specialist magazines arrive by accident? On 2/4/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > I got some of those magazines in the end, sadly turned up just after the > social. They've also sent me a couple of other back issues so I'll bring > them all along to our next meeting. > > Les > -- Sent from my mobile device From biglynchy at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 17:51:34 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:51:34 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Linux Format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh dear don't mention Razzle again, someone mentioned that at the last meeting I seem to remember :D Stuart I forgot to say at the time when you asked me about the G1, I'm no expert on it but there are developer versions coming out which will not be locked in the same way I believe. I've heard a figure of £300 touted. The current G1 you get on contract is hardware locked and you have to jailbreak it like the iPhone to change any software I've been told. This developer one won't be locked. Bit expensive though. I reckon we'll see some interesting new Android handsets coming out soon, I'm holding off till later in the year to see what's available then. As for media player I forgot to mention this one - http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/24/review_pmp_cowon_s9/ Looks like a great answer to the iPod Touch and the price is pretty good too. Hope that helps See ya Dan On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Any other specialist magazines arrive by accident? > > On 2/4/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I got some of those magazines in the end, sadly turned up just after the > > social. They've also sent me a couple of other back issues so I'll bring > > them all along to our next meeting. > > > > Les > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 22:53:51 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:53:51 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging Message-ID: No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas about getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Thu Feb 5 23:17:02 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:17:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't twitter, but I do youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/heiowge I also skype (this email address) and occasionally use Kopete. Cheers Paul Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:53:45 +0000 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas about getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? Les _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 23:39:22 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:39:22 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm quite an active microblogger and have been for a couple of years now since before it was the "in" thing. I have accounts on most of the major services but I only joined Twitter recently cos I needed the promotion. I much prefer Identi.ca because it's fully open source and free software, licensed under the AGPL. They just upgraded it to include groups so you could set up a Chester LUG group quite easily. For promotion Twitter seems to be the place because it's so prevelent. What we do with Liverpool LUG is have an account with the same name on Twitter and Identi.ca then post updates to both at the same time with something like Ping.fm you can also use Gwibber on the desktop which I love. You don't have to post often just about upcoming meetings every now and then. We've seen attendance go up at LivLUG and I think it's a good idea to use these services for promoting the group. As you can tell by now I'm a social media whore sorry hehehe :D If I can help at all just let me know though. Incidentally I tried to load the Chester LUG site again and the link on lug.org.uk is still not working. Anybody got any ideas on that? Would be good to get the site up and running if possible. Thanks On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > I don't twitter, but I do youtube. > > http://www.youtube.com/user/heiowge > > I also skype (this email address) and occasionally use Kopete. > > Cheers > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:53:45 +0000 > From: les.pritchard at gmail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging > > No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over > the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that > Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! > > So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any > other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas about > getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to hear > who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? > > Les > > ------------------------------ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it Now! > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iamseawolf at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 00:57:02 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:57:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0902051657n4da935a0l88ad3abe85a42af2@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I'm on identi.ca which pumps through to my twitter acct. -- I'm not bothered about what people find out about me through them! As Dan said, id'.ca have just launched !groups so that people can get updates from those they don't follow. It's a nifty feature which acts like a forum in itself. I doubt it would be worth the effort of setting up a new personal Laonica server over using an existing service. It's getting quite a lot of exposure recently but it definitely attracts a certain selection of people! b 2009/2/5 Dan Lynch : > I'm quite an active microblogger and have been for a couple of years now > since before it was the "in" thing. I have accounts on most of the major > services but I only joined Twitter recently cos I needed the promotion. I > much prefer Identi.ca because it's fully open source and free software, > licensed under the AGPL. They just upgraded it to include groups so you > could set up a Chester LUG group quite easily. For promotion Twitter seems > to be the place because it's so prevelent. >> ________________________________ >> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:53:45 +0000 >> From: les.pritchard at gmail.com >> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging >> >> No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over >> the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that >> Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! >> >> So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any >> other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas about >> getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to hear >> who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? >> >> Les >> >> ________________________________ >> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it Now! >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 08:18:31 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:18:31 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Linux on xbox help required Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Need a little help here. I have one of the old boxes and want to run XBMC on it. I even have the mod chip to allow it. Does anyone know anyone local who can do modchips ? Cheers Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 10:12:33 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:12:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like a good idea Dan, let's see if we can get that sorted out. I've been using Gwibber to view a few feeds and I've been very impressed with it too. I've managed to take a look at the website issue and it seems to be down to a DNS server that appears to have got corrupted. I'll get onto it this weekend and kick a few boxes....if I can remotely. In the meantime, we can all try out some of Paul's recepies :-) On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Dan Lynch wrote: > I'm quite an active microblogger and have been for a couple of years now > since before it was the "in" thing. I have accounts on most of the major > services but I only joined Twitter recently cos I needed the promotion. I > much prefer Identi.ca because it's fully open source and free software, > licensed under the AGPL. They just upgraded it to include groups so you > could set up a Chester LUG group quite easily. For promotion Twitter seems > to be the place because it's so prevelent. What we do with Liverpool LUG is > have an account with the same name on Twitter and Identi.ca then post > updates to both at the same time with something like Ping.fm you can also > use Gwibber on the desktop which I love. You don't have to post often just > about upcoming meetings every now and then. We've seen attendance go up at > LivLUG and I think it's a good idea to use these services for promoting the > group. > > As you can tell by now I'm a social media whore sorry hehehe :D If I can > help at all just let me know though. > > Incidentally I tried to load the Chester LUG site again and the link on > lug.org.uk is still not working. Anybody got any ideas on that? Would be > good to get the site up and running if possible. Thanks > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > >> I don't twitter, but I do youtube. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/heiowge >> >> I also skype (this email address) and occasionally use Kopete. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:53:45 +0000 >> From: les.pritchard at gmail.com >> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging >> >> No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over >> the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that >> Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! >> >> So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any >> other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas about >> getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to hear >> who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? >> >> Les >> >> ------------------------------ >> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it Now! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Fri Feb 6 11:40:11 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:40:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200902061140.03693.dh@iucr.org> On Thursday 05 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over > the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that > Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! > > So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any > other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas about > getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to > hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? > > Les I have a twitter account but never use it, telling people (in effect noone, since none would be interested) what I've just had for breakfast or about the bus being late isn't the best use of my time. That said I have found it useful as a reader since I use the webmynd firefox plugin which when you search google also logs into to a load of other services and returns results from those along side, occasional someone on twitter has posted something interesting. Like much of the web I don't think it has an impressive signal to noise ratio. Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 11:50:23 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:50:23 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: <200902061140.03693.dh@iucr.org> References: <200902061140.03693.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: he he. Well as Dan said I think it could be useful for announcements at least. I also thought it could be handy for the odd message like "I'm looking for an app that does XXXXX" or "Just trying our XXXX, very useful". The kind of comments that may come out at a meet (ok maybe not all the kind of comments that come out there!). On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, David Holden wrote: > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs over > > the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it now that > > Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! > > > > So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any > > other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas > about > > getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to > > hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just listen? > > > > Les > > I have a twitter account but never use it, telling people (in effect noone, > since none would be interested) what I've just had for breakfast or about > the > bus being late isn't the best use of my time. That said I have found it > useful as a reader since I use the webmynd firefox plugin which when you > search google also logs into to a load of other services and returns > results > from those along side, occasional someone on twitter has posted something > interesting. > > Like much of the web I don't think it has an impressive signal to noise > ratio. > > Dave. > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Fri Feb 6 13:57:01 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:57:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061140.03693.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> On Friday 06 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > he he. Well as Dan said I think it could be useful for announcements at > least. I also thought it could be handy for the odd message like "I'm > looking for an app that does XXXXX" or "Just trying our XXXX, very useful". > The kind of comments that may come out at a meet (ok maybe not all the kind > of comments that come out there!). Yeh maybe but not sure how this is better than posting to the list. Dave. > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, David Holden wrote: > > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs > > > over the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it > > > now that Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! > > > > > > So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or any > > > other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas > > > > about > > > > > getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting to > > > hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just > > > listen? > > > > > > Les > > > > I have a twitter account but never use it, telling people (in effect > > noone, since none would be interested) what I've just had for breakfast > > or about the > > bus being late isn't the best use of my time. That said I have found it > > useful as a reader since I use the webmynd firefox plugin which when you > > search google also logs into to a load of other services and returns > > results > > from those along side, occasional someone on twitter has posted something > > interesting. > > > > Like much of the web I don't think it has an impressive signal to noise > > ratio. > > > > Dave. > > > > > > -- > > Dr. David Holden. > > > > See: > > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 14:15:13 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:15:13 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> References: <200902061140.03693.dh@iucr.org> <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: Two words....band and wagon :-) Seriously though, I'm not looking to replace the list just thought it could be addition that might enourage people to contribute the odd comment. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Holden wrote: > On Friday 06 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > he he. Well as Dan said I think it could be useful for announcements at > > least. I also thought it could be handy for the odd message like "I'm > > looking for an app that does XXXXX" or "Just trying our XXXX, very > useful". > > The kind of comments that may come out at a meet (ok maybe not all the > kind > > of comments that come out there!). > > Yeh maybe but not sure how this is better than posting to the list. > > Dave. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, David Holden wrote: > > > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > > No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs > > > > over the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it > > > > now that Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! > > > > > > > > So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or > any > > > > other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas > > > > > > about > > > > > > > getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting > to > > > > hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just > > > > listen? > > > > > > > > Les > > > > > > I have a twitter account but never use it, telling people (in effect > > > noone, since none would be interested) what I've just had for breakfast > > > or about the > > > bus being late isn't the best use of my time. That said I have found it > > > useful as a reader since I use the webmynd firefox plugin which when > you > > > search google also logs into to a load of other services and returns > > > results > > > from those along side, occasional someone on twitter has posted > something > > > interesting. > > > > > > Like much of the web I don't think it has an impressive signal to noise > > > ratio. > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. David Holden. > > > > > > See: > > > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 15:34:00 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:34:00 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> References: <200902061140.03693.dh@iucr.org> <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've said a few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or offputting about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places like Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less confident users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to follow things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all I suppose it's just another option for those who want it, notices should still be posted to the mailing list as well of course :) On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Holden wrote: > On Friday 06 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > he he. Well as Dan said I think it could be useful for announcements at > > least. I also thought it could be handy for the odd message like "I'm > > looking for an app that does XXXXX" or "Just trying our XXXX, very > useful". > > The kind of comments that may come out at a meet (ok maybe not all the > kind > > of comments that come out there!). > > Yeh maybe but not sure how this is better than posting to the list. > > Dave. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, David Holden wrote: > > > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > > No doubt you've all heard the sudden discovery of Twitter by celebs > > > > over the past few weeks! It seems like loads of celebs are doing it > > > > now that Steven Fry mentioned it on prime time! > > > > > > > > So it got me wondering - how many people in the LUG use Twitter or > any > > > > other microblogging service already? I had thought before Christmas > > > > > > about > > > > > > > getting us a LUG feed of some sort going, so it would be interesting > to > > > > hear who uses it. If you do have an account; do you post or just > > > > listen? > > > > > > > > Les > > > > > > I have a twitter account but never use it, telling people (in effect > > > noone, since none would be interested) what I've just had for breakfast > > > or about the > > > bus being late isn't the best use of my time. That said I have found it > > > useful as a reader since I use the webmynd firefox plugin which when > you > > > search google also logs into to a load of other services and returns > > > results > > > from those along side, occasional someone on twitter has posted > something > > > interesting. > > > > > > Like much of the web I don't think it has an impressive signal to noise > > > ratio. > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. David Holden. > > > > > > See: > > > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Fri Feb 6 18:20:02 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:20:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've said a > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or offputting > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places like > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less confident > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to follow > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all > Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 10:27:19 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:27:19 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: Hi Everyone. Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign up under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free for others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really want people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ? http://identi.ca/main/register 2009/2/6 David Holden > On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: > > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've said a > > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or offputting > > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places like > > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much > > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less confident > > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to follow > > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all > > > > Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. > > Dave. > > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 11:27:09 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:27:09 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under Creative Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would make others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I always thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not let you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed that was optional :S The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and sometimes the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates about meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that anything you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there was a big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying than CC. As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel comfortable posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't optional then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :) Dan On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone. > > Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign up > under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free for > others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really want > people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ? > > http://identi.ca/main/register > > > > 2009/2/6 David Holden > >> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: >> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've said >> a >> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or offputting >> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places >> like >> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much >> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less confident >> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to >> follow >> > things through a website. 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URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 12:35:44 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:35:44 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook own all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs! It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what they're clicking when they agree to licenses. Would be interesting to see if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch wrote: > Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under Creative > Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would make > others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I always > thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not let > you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed that > was optional :S > > The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and sometimes > the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates about > meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could > really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that > information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that anything > you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like > Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there was a > big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying than CC. > > As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel comfortable > posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't optional > then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :) > > Dan > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone. >> >> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign up >> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free for >> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really want >> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ? >> >> http://identi.ca/main/register >> >> >> >> 2009/2/6 David Holden >> >>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: >>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've said >>> a >>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or >>> offputting >>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places >>> like >>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much >>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less >>> confident >>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to >>> follow >>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all >>> > >>> >>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. >>> >>> Dave. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. David Holden. >>> >>> See: >>> regarding Word or PowerPoint. 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URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 16:42:32 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:42:32 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle really. On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook own > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs! > > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what > they're clicking when they agree to licenses. Would be interesting to see > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart. > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch wrote: > >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under Creative >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would make >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I >> always >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not >> let >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed that >> was optional :S >> >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and sometimes >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates about >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that >> anything >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there was >> a >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying than >> CC. >> >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel comfortable >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't >> optional >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :) >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone. >>> >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign up >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free for >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really >>> want >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ? >>> >>> http://identi.ca/main/register >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden >>> >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've >>>> > said >>>> a >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or >>>> offputting >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places >>>> like >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less >>>> confident >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to >>>> follow >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all >>>> > >>>> >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. >>>> >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. David Holden. >>>> >>>> See: >>>> regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From les.pritchard at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 18:04:50 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:04:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Website Message-ID: The website is now back online at www.chesterlug.org.uk and I'm waiting for an email from the lug.org.uk admins to sort out the link on their site. Any suggestions for content on the site are welcome! Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 18:05:05 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:05:05 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: Yes I totally agree it should be the users choice. It's strange because being licensed under the AGPL Identica is one of the few truly free web services around. I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter? More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look. We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I was wrong Uggh On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns wrote: > I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an > account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle > really. > > On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook > own > > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs! > > > > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what > > they're clicking when they agree to licenses. Would be interesting to > see > > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart. > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch wrote: > > > >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under Creative > >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would make > >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I > >> always > >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not > >> let > >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed > that > >> was optional :S > >> > >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and sometimes > >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates > about > >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could > >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that > >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that > >> anything > >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like > >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there > was > >> a > >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying than > >> CC. > >> > >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel > comfortable > >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't > >> optional > >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :) > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns < > >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Everyone. > >>> > >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign up > >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free > for > >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really > >>> want > >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ? > >>> > >>> http://identi.ca/main/register > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden > >>> > >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: > >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've > >>>> > said > >>>> a > >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or > >>>> offputting > >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places > >>>> like > >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much > >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less > >>>> confident > >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to > >>>> follow > >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. > >>>> > >>>> Dave. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Dr. David Holden. > >>>> > >>>> See: > >>>> regarding Word or PowerPoint. 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I'd be happy to help out a bit if that's any use, perhaps others would too who knows :) On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: > The website is now back online at www.chesterlug.org.uk and I'm waiting > for an email from the lug.org.uk admins to sort out the link on their > site. > > Any suggestions for content on the site are welcome! > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 21:30:24 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:30:24 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Microblogging In-Reply-To: References: <200902061356.54570.dh@iucr.org> <200902061819.56278.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: I did try without the tick in the box, but it was a no go. Almost as bad as MS ;) JK 2009/2/7 Dan Lynch > Yes I totally agree it should be the users choice. It's strange because > being licensed under the AGPL Identica is one of the few truly free web > services around. I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users > in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the > right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter? > More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look. > > We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and > ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I > was wrong > > Uggh > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns > wrote: > >> I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an >> account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle >> really. >> >> On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard wrote: >> > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook >> own >> > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs! >> > >> > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what >> > they're clicking when they agree to licenses. Would be interesting to >> see >> > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart. >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch wrote: >> > >> >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under >> Creative >> >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would >> make >> >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I >> >> always >> >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not >> >> let >> >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed >> that >> >> was optional :S >> >> >> >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and >> sometimes >> >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates >> about >> >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could >> >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that >> >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that >> >> anything >> >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like >> >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there >> was >> >> a >> >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying >> than >> >> CC. >> >> >> >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel >> comfortable >> >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't >> >> optional >> >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :) >> >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns < >> >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Everyone. >> >>> >> >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign >> up >> >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free >> for >> >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really >> >>> want >> >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes >> ? >> >>> >> >>> http://identi.ca/main/register >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden >> >>> >> >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: >> >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've >> >>>> > said >> >>>> a >> >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or >> >>>> offputting >> >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on >> places >> >>>> like >> >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been >> much >> >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less >> >>>> confident >> >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to >> >>>> follow >> >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. >> >>>> >> >>>> Dave. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Dr. David Holden. >> >>>> >> >>>> See: >> >>>> regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Chester mailing list >> >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chester mailing list >> >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chester mailing list >> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users >> in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the >> right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter? >> More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look. >> >> We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and >> ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I >> was wrong >> >> Uggh >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an >>> account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle >>> really. >>> >>> On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard wrote: >>> > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that >>> Facebook own >>> > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs! >>> > >>> > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what >>> > they're clicking when they agree to licenses. Would be interesting to >>> see >>> > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart. >>> > >>> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under >>> Creative >>> >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would >>> make >>> >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I >>> >> always >>> >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it >>> not >>> >> let >>> >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed >>> that >>> >> was optional :S >>> >> >>> >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and >>> sometimes >>> >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates >>> about >>> >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else >>> could >>> >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that >>> >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that >>> >> anything >>> >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like >>> >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there >>> was >>> >> a >>> >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying >>> than >>> >> CC. >>> >> >>> >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel >>> comfortable >>> >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't >>> >> optional >>> >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :) >>> >> >>> >> Dan >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns < >>> >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi Everyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign >>> up >>> >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free >>> for >>> >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you >>> really >>> >>> want >>> >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes >>> ? >>> >>> >>> >>> http://identi.ca/main/register >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote: >>> >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've >>> >>>> > said >>> >>>> a >>> >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or >>> >>>> offputting >>> >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on >>> places >>> >>>> like >>> >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been >>> much >>> >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less >>> >>>> confident >>> >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to >>> >>>> follow >>> >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Dave. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Dr. David Holden. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> See: >>> >>>> regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Chester mailing list >>> >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Chester mailing list >>> >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Chester mailing list >>> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They're both looking very empty at the moment but I hope there's some potential there! Both are open to contributions from members. So if you fancy adding the odd blog entry about your experiences with something or a handy howto it will really help everyone. Editing of both sections are both password protected for obvious reasons! So if you'd like to get involved, send me an email and I'll set up an account for you. Dan and Joe, thanks for both your offers of help; I'll set up accounts for you. One thought I'd had for the Wiki is a member profile section where members can list the distros they use, how they use Linux and any other things that fellow members may be interested in. Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Tue Feb 10 09:50:52 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:50:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] lost link Message-ID: Has anyone got a link to the lug website? 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Lost the link during a reinstall > and every search has a broken link. > > Ta. > > Paul > > ________________________________ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it Now! > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Tue Feb 10 11:14:49 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:14:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] lost link In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0902100250j45b61f3fy376473e5d0289a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0902100250j45b61f3fy376473e5d0289a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: cheers. I think the other links had an extra dot in it. > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:50:14 +0000 > From: iamseawolf at gmail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] lost link > > Hi Paul - > > http://www.chesterlug.org.uk/ > > (: > > 2009/2/10 Paul Williams : > > Has anyone got a link to the lug website? 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When asked about Open office they said their LEA contact in Cheshire advised against it! Not industry standard software - Like MS word is not going to change by the time my 8yr old has finished education! An advice on resources to counter this or people to talk to (Cheshire LEA) Rob --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Schoolforge-UK Discussions" group. 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County engineers aren't trained for non-MS, so they advise against it! > From: smedley358 at btinternet.com > To: sc at mailman.lug.org.uk; chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:35:53 +0000 > Subject: [Chester LUG] [Fwd: [sf-uk-discuss] [Fwd: [GeekUp] Open Office in education]] > > Anyone heard anything similar from Cheshire LEA? > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Tim Dobson > Reply-to: sf-uk-discuss at googlegroups.com > To: sf-uk-discuss at googlegroups.com, robert.mortimer at gmail.com > Subject: [sf-uk-discuss] [Fwd: [GeekUp] Open Office in education] > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:11:19 +0000 > > Can anyone help out? > Tim > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [GeekUp] Open Office in education > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:59:19 -0800 (PST) > From: robert.mortimer at gmail.com > Reply-To: geekup at googlegroups.com > To: GeekUp > > > Recently my child's primary school forked out on some MS office > licences (2003). When asked about Open office they said their LEA > contact in Cheshire advised against it! > > Not industry standard software - Like MS word is not going to change > by the time my 8yr old has finished education! > > An advice on resources to counter this or people to talk to (Cheshire > LEA) > > Rob > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Schoolforge-UK Discussions" group. > To post to this group, send email to sf-uk-discuss at googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sf-uk-discuss+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sf-uk-discuss?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. 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If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me booking the venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer another evening - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) Your thoughts are appreciated!! Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see if people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 17:35:41 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:35:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be happy to have socials every month and technical ewvery oter. I wouldn't even mind one of each every month. However my only question is if it where based around talks etc, would there be enough time to organise the material for the talk, ifyswim. Anyhow just my two pence worth. On 2/11/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > We've been talking for a while about having technical events where we can > get together and have talks on certains topics. I have a venue now and am > looking at potential dates for our first gathering. > > Could you all help me out by answering these (badly phrased) questions :-) > > 1. Would you like this event to replace the socials? > 2. If not, would you be interested in the socials running every month and > then technical talks say every other month? > 3. Or would you prefer socials and tech talks alternating every other month? > 4. If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me booking the > venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer another evening > - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) > > Your thoughts are appreciated!! > > Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see if > people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. > > Les > -- Sent from my mobile device From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Wed Feb 11 17:50:11 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:50:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd prefer say, 1 month in 3 to be a bring your equipment (new venue) and the rest as normal. Speaking of equipment, I've got 2 busted PCs. If anyone can turn them into one working PC, they can keep the rest plus the 15" flat monitor. I think they are a complete PC between them. Any takers? Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:36:34 +0000 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event Hi all, We've been talking for a while about having technical events where we can get together and have talks on certains topics. I have a venue now and am looking at potential dates for our first gathering. Could you all help me out by answering these (badly phrased) questions :-) 1. Would you like this event to replace the socials? 2. If not, would you be interested in the socials running every month and then technical talks say every other month? 3. Or would you prefer socials and tech talks alternating every other month? 4. If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me booking the venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer another evening - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) Your thoughts are appreciated!! Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see if people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. Les _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 21:40:51 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:40:51 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think a technical event every other month is a pretty good idea. I suppose we'd have to see how many people make it along each time and go from there. I'm happy to go with what everyone else thinks. I don't think we need to replace the socials. How about some kind of install fest on a weekend afternoon or something like that? Not every other month obviously but maybe once or twice a year, try and spread the Linux love. What do people think about that? Perhaps it's not an option just thought I'd mention it :) Cheers, Dan On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > I'd prefer say, 1 month in 3 to be a bring your equipment (new venue) and > the rest as normal. > > Speaking of equipment, I've got 2 busted PCs. If anyone can turn them into > one working PC, they can keep the rest plus the 15" flat monitor. I think > they are a complete PC between them. Any takers? > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:36:34 +0000 > From: les.pritchard at gmail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event > > > Hi all, > > We've been talking for a while about having technical events where we can > get together and have talks on certains topics. I have a venue now and am > looking at potential dates for our first gathering. > > Could you all help me out by answering these (badly phrased) questions :-) > > 1. Would you like this event to replace the socials? > 2. If not, would you be interested in the socials running every month and > then technical talks say every other month? > 3. Or would you prefer socials and tech talks alternating every other > month? > > 4. If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me booking the > venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer another evening > - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) > > Your thoughts are appreciated!! > > Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see if > people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. > > Les > > ------------------------------ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it Now! > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 08:05:58 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:05:58 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We dont all distro hop every week you know ;) ps my asking about ipod replacements for linux machines. We got an 8 gb zen with color screen etc etc for £50 and it works flawlessly. Just drag and drop and instantly works with linux. A good investment it was! On 2/11/09, Dan Lynch wrote: > I think a technical event every other month is a pretty good idea. I suppose > we'd have to see how many people make it along each time and go from there. > I'm happy to go with what everyone else thinks. I don't think we need to > replace the socials. How about some kind of install fest on a weekend > afternoon or something like that? Not every other month obviously but maybe > once or twice a year, try and spread the Linux love. What do people think > about that? Perhaps it's not an option just thought I'd mention it :) > > Cheers, > > Dan > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > >> I'd prefer say, 1 month in 3 to be a bring your equipment (new venue) and >> the rest as normal. >> >> Speaking of equipment, I've got 2 busted PCs. If anyone can turn them >> into >> one working PC, they can keep the rest plus the 15" flat monitor. I think >> they are a complete PC between them. Any takers? >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:36:34 +0000 >> From: les.pritchard at gmail.com >> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> We've been talking for a while about having technical events where we can >> get together and have talks on certains topics. I have a venue now and am >> looking at potential dates for our first gathering. >> >> Could you all help me out by answering these (badly phrased) questions :-) >> >> 1. Would you like this event to replace the socials? >> 2. If not, would you be interested in the socials running every month and >> then technical talks say every other month? >> 3. Or would you prefer socials and tech talks alternating every other >> month? >> >> 4. If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me booking the >> venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer another >> evening >> - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) >> >> Your thoughts are appreciated!! >> >> Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see if >> people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. >> >> Les >> >> ------------------------------ >> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it >> Now! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From biglynchy at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 11:44:55 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:44:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds nice, those Creative players are very good. I wouldn't buy any sort of player that requires you to have special software installed just to copy data to it, that's why I've never owned an iPod. Drag and drop is the way to go, enjoy! :) On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Stuart Burns wrote: > We dont all distro hop every week you know ;) ps my asking about ipod > replacements for linux machines. We got an 8 gb zen with color screen > etc etc for £50 and it works flawlessly. Just drag and drop and > instantly works with linux. A good investment it was! > > On 2/11/09, Dan Lynch wrote: > > I think a technical event every other month is a pretty good idea. I > suppose > > we'd have to see how many people make it along each time and go from > there. > > I'm happy to go with what everyone else thinks. I don't think we need to > > replace the socials. How about some kind of install fest on a weekend > > afternoon or something like that? Not every other month obviously but > maybe > > once or twice a year, try and spread the Linux love. What do people think > > about that? Perhaps it's not an option just thought I'd mention it :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dan > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Paul Williams > wrote: > > > >> I'd prefer say, 1 month in 3 to be a bring your equipment (new venue) > and > >> the rest as normal. > >> > >> Speaking of equipment, I've got 2 busted PCs. If anyone can turn them > >> into > >> one working PC, they can keep the rest plus the 15" flat monitor. I > think > >> they are a complete PC between them. Any takers? > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:36:34 +0000 > >> From: les.pritchard at gmail.com > >> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Event > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> We've been talking for a while about having technical events where we > can > >> get together and have talks on certains topics. I have a venue now and > am > >> looking at potential dates for our first gathering. > >> > >> Could you all help me out by answering these (badly phrased) questions > :-) > >> > >> 1. Would you like this event to replace the socials? > >> 2. If not, would you be interested in the socials running every month > and > >> then technical talks say every other month? > >> 3. Or would you prefer socials and tech talks alternating every other > >> month? > >> > >> 4. If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me booking > the > >> venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer another > >> evening > >> - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) > >> > >> Your thoughts are appreciated!! > >> > >> Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see > if > >> people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. > >> > >> Les > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it > >> Now!< > http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If we are keeping the events seperate, would you prefer me > booking the venue for another Thursday in the month or would you prefer > another evening - say 2nd Wednesday of the month (if it was available) > > Your thoughts are appreciated!! > > Personally I'd be happy with sayng yes to number 2 but I'd like to see if > people would be able to attend 2 events in a month every other month. > > Les Socials should be every month. Technicals will depend on if we have technical stuff to do. Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 11:57:51 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:57:51 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Filesystems Message-ID: Hi, It's been a while since I've read up on the particulars on the many filesystems out there. So I was wondering if anyone can anyone recommend the best filesystem for running 1TB and above filesystems? It's on an Ubuntu server and the disk(s) will be primarily for fileserving and VM hosting (so will most probably be large files). Have you had experiences good or bad with particular filesystems? Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 12:36:36 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:36:36 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Filesystems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1234787779.7471.7.camel@starbug> I've always used ext3 and had no problems with it but not out of any great knowledge, more to do with laziness, it's usually the default. I'm no expert on filesystems at all but people are always telling me I should be using xfs instead of ext3. I know a few people who even set it up on their desktops, I believe you need a separate /boot partition formatted as ext3 to get it working right and your main data partitions are then xfs. I have no idea what the real advantage of it is though sorry, not sure if I'm just adding to the confusion there :D Might be worth reading up on it though. Real storage geeks always rave about zfs from Solaris but I'm not sure if you can use it with Linux yet. It'll get ported at some point I'm sure. Good luck with the new system :) On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:57 +0000, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi, > > It's been a while since I've read up on the particulars on the many > filesystems out there. So I was wondering if anyone can anyone > recommend the best filesystem for running 1TB and above filesystems? > It's on an Ubuntu server and the disk(s) will be primarily for > fileserving and VM hosting (so will most probably be large files). > Have you had experiences good or bad with particular filesystems? > > Les > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 13:10:50 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:10:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Filesystems In-Reply-To: <1234787779.7471.7.camel@starbug> References: <1234787779.7471.7.camel@starbug> Message-ID: Hi Dan, Thanks for that - good to hear someone else has just stuck with ext3! I'll take a look at XFS. ZFS is excellent, I use it on some boxes and it really offers some nice functionality (I might give a little demo of it in our first tech meet). There is a project that allows you to use ZFS with FUSE, but it's not that speedy from what I've read because it has to run in userspace (due to license issues). If I'm feeling brave I might give it a go and see what I get from it. Les On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Dan wrote: > I've always used ext3 and had no problems with it but not out of any > great knowledge, more to do with laziness, it's usually the default. I'm > no expert on filesystems at all but people are always telling me I > should be using xfs instead of ext3. I know a few people who even set it > up on their desktops, I believe you need a separate /boot partition > formatted as ext3 to get it working right and your main data partitions > are then xfs. I have no idea what the real advantage of it is though > sorry, not sure if I'm just adding to the confusion there :D Might be > worth reading up on it though. Real storage geeks always rave about zfs > from Solaris but I'm not sure if you can use it with Linux yet. It'll > get ported at some point I'm sure. > > Good luck with the new system :) > > > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:57 +0000, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It's been a while since I've read up on the particulars on the many > > filesystems out there. So I was wondering if anyone can anyone > > recommend the best filesystem for running 1TB and above filesystems? > > It's on an Ubuntu server and the disk(s) will be primarily for > > fileserving and VM hosting (so will most probably be large files). > > Have you had experiences good or bad with particular filesystems? > > > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 13:21:04 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:21:04 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Why I love SUSE... Message-ID: Just like the X-Factor and other 'talent' shows, there are some who just give it 100%, where as others go further.... ...hrm! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: suse.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 460537 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 17:28:10 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:28:10 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Filesystems In-Reply-To: References: <1234787779.7471.7.camel@starbug> Message-ID: To be honest we use ext3 on some quite large systems. It seems to work fine, just remember to set cluster size to quite larege ie 1Mb because if you run multi TB and have small cluster size you run the danger of running out of inodes and it isn't pretty. Also larger cluster sizes favour virtual images as they are just large continuos files. Other than that i would say zfs but as u say it has issues. I hear reiser fs is muderous ;) On 2/16/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Thanks for that - good to hear someone else has just stuck with ext3! I'll > take a look at XFS. > > ZFS is excellent, I use it on some boxes and it really offers some nice > functionality (I might give a little demo of it in our first tech meet). > There is a project that allows you to use ZFS with FUSE, but it's not that > speedy from what I've read because it has to run in userspace (due to > license issues). If I'm feeling brave I might give it a go and see what I > get from it. > > Les > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Dan wrote: > >> I've always used ext3 and had no problems with it but not out of any >> great knowledge, more to do with laziness, it's usually the default. I'm >> no expert on filesystems at all but people are always telling me I >> should be using xfs instead of ext3. I know a few people who even set it >> up on their desktops, I believe you need a separate /boot partition >> formatted as ext3 to get it working right and your main data partitions >> are then xfs. I have no idea what the real advantage of it is though >> sorry, not sure if I'm just adding to the confusion there :D Might be >> worth reading up on it though. Real storage geeks always rave about zfs >> from Solaris but I'm not sure if you can use it with Linux yet. It'll >> get ported at some point I'm sure. >> >> Good luck with the new system :) >> >> >> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:57 +0000, Les Pritchard wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > It's been a while since I've read up on the particulars on the many >> > filesystems out there. So I was wondering if anyone can anyone >> > recommend the best filesystem for running 1TB and above filesystems? >> > It's on an Ubuntu server and the disk(s) will be primarily for >> > fileserving and VM hosting (so will most probably be large files). >> > Have you had experiences good or bad with particular filesystems? >> > >> > Les >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chester mailing list >> > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From dh at iucr.org Mon Feb 16 19:43:41 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:43:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Filesystems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200902161943.33687.dh@iucr.org> On Monday 16 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi, > > It's been a while since I've read up on the particulars on the many > filesystems out there. So I was wondering if anyone can anyone recommend > the best filesystem for running 1TB and above filesystems? It's on an > Ubuntu server and the disk(s) will be primarily for fileserving and VM > hosting (so will most probably be large files). Have you had experiences > good or bad with particular filesystems? > > Les If you really want to push the boat out latest ubuntu allows you to use ext4 Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 17:25:57 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:25:57 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet update Message-ID: Hi all, An update for you on the technical meet. I decided that for the first meet it would be great to have as many people able to attend. So if we hold the technical meet a week Thursday (26th) from 7 - whenever, then we can move on to a near by pub for a social / wrap up. In the future we'll keep the normal socials and add the odd tech meet as and when we have topics. I also liked the suggestion that we could hold an install fest one day. The technical meet will be at the main campus of Chester University (I will send a map and directions nearer the time). There's parking right by the building and we'll have a projector for the demos. I have a few topics I'd like to talk about, anyone else have anything they'd like to add? My topics: ZFS GIT (David, I'm hoping you might also chip in here as I know you're a user!) OpenVZ Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Wed Feb 18 20:53:06 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:53:06 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200902182052.58143.dh@iucr.org> On Wednesday 18 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > An update for you on the technical meet. I decided that for the first meet > it would be great to have as many people able to attend. So if we hold the > technical meet a week Thursday (26th) from 7 - whenever, then we can move > on to a near by pub for a social / wrap up. > > In the future we'll keep the normal socials and add the odd tech meet as > and when we have topics. I also liked the suggestion that we could hold an > install fest one day. > > The technical meet will be at the main campus of Chester University (I will > send a map and directions nearer the time). There's parking right by the > building and we'll have a projector for the demos. I have a few topics I'd > like to talk about, anyone else have anything they'd like to add? > > My topics: > ZFS > GIT (David, I'm hoping you might also chip in here as I know you're a > user!) argh, a very *basic* user! should be able to make this meeting though. > OpenVZ > > Les -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 21:45:26 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:45:26 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet update In-Reply-To: <200902182052.58143.dh@iucr.org> References: <200902182052.58143.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: He he! Don't worry - I'm the same! If all else fails we can give the Linus speech "If you don't use it you're stupid and ugly"! On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, David Holden wrote: > On Wednesday 18 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > An update for you on the technical meet. I decided that for the first > meet > > it would be great to have as many people able to attend. So if we hold > the > > technical meet a week Thursday (26th) from 7 - whenever, then we can move > > on to a near by pub for a social / wrap up. > > > > In the future we'll keep the normal socials and add the odd tech meet as > > and when we have topics. I also liked the suggestion that we could hold > an > > install fest one day. > > > > The technical meet will be at the main campus of Chester University (I > will > > send a map and directions nearer the time). There's parking right by the > > building and we'll have a projector for the demos. I have a few topics > I'd > > like to talk about, anyone else have anything they'd like to add? > > > > My topics: > > ZFS > > GIT (David, I'm hoping you might also chip in here as I know you're a > > user!) > > argh, a very *basic* user! should be able to make this meeting though. > > > OpenVZ > > > > Les > > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 09:28:39 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:28:39 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet Message-ID: Hi, What's the feeling on refreshments for our Tech meet next Thursday? I haven't booked the tea / coffee from the Uni as it's around £1.30 per head. How would everyone feel if I bought a large box of cokes and brought them along? 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I > haven't booked the tea / coffee from the Uni as it's around £1.30 per head. > How would everyone feel if I bought a large box of cokes and brought them > along? > > Les > > (anyone who would like to bake a cake for the event....:-) ) Is there a drink machine around there? Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From heckle at btinternet.com Fri Feb 20 11:20:18 2009 From: heckle at btinternet.com (heckle at btinternet.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:20:18 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499E91DE.32541.DCD62@heckle.btinternet.com> Make mine Pepsi. Who's bringing the Bacardi ? D From biglynchy at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 12:20:52 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:20:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: <499E91DE.32541.DCD62@heckle.btinternet.com> References: <499E91DE.32541.DCD62@heckle.btinternet.com> Message-ID: I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves then. Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty or club in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to bring a crate of coke to each meeting. Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of Computer Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old part of the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel weird going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't leave any outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. Looking forward to it. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: > Make mine Pepsi. Who's bringing the Bacardi ? > > D > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 13:41:57 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:41:57 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: <499E91DE.32541.DCD62@heckle.btinternet.com> Message-ID: Would that be a treasurer using GNU Cash?! Yes please bring your preferred refreshments please! We're in a room in the Binks building. Nice and easy to find and there's parking near by. There seems to be a few 'diversity' events happening in the same building that night so watch out in case you get dragged into a LGBT meet :-) On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Lynch wrote: > I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves then. > Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty or club > in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a > treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to bring a > crate of coke to each meeting. > > Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of Computer > Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old part of > the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel weird > going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't leave any > outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. > > Looking forward to it. > > > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < > heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Make mine Pepsi. Who's bringing the Bacardi ? >> >> D >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 17:16:27 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:16:27 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: <499E91DE.32541.DCD62@heckle.btinternet.com> Message-ID: Sounds good. I won't bring any exploding kettles. Is there any kind of agenda? Don't really mind either way, just enquiring. Could be a good setup though for teaching as it where. Also do we get to use the campus wlan? On 2/20/09, Les Pritchard wrote: > Would that be a treasurer using GNU Cash?! Yes please bring your preferred > refreshments please! > > We're in a room in the Binks building. Nice and easy to find and there's > parking near by. There seems to be a few 'diversity' events happening in > the same building that night so watch out in case you get dragged into a > LGBT meet :-) > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Lynch wrote: > >> I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves >> then. >> Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty or >> club >> in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a >> treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to bring a >> crate of coke to each meeting. >> >> Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of Computer >> Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old part of >> the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel weird >> going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't leave any >> outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. >> >> Looking forward to it. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < >> heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> Make mine Pepsi. Who's bringing the Bacardi ? >>> >>> D >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 20:50:03 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:50:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: <200902201102.32018.dh@iucr.org> References: <200902201102.32018.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: I don't think so I'm afraid, I'll double check on Monday. Maybe a couple of flasks could do the trick for coffee / tea? On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM, David Holden wrote: > On Friday 20 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What's the feeling on refreshments for our Tech meet next Thursday? I > > haven't booked the tea / coffee from the Uni as it's around £1.30 per > head. > > How would everyone feel if I bought a large box of cokes and brought them > > along? > > > > Les > > > > (anyone who would like to bake a cake for the event....:-) ) > > Is there a drink machine around there? > > Dave. > > > -- > Dr. David Holden. > > See: > regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes please bring your > preferred > > refreshments please! > > > > We're in a room in the Binks building. Nice and easy to find and there's > > parking near by. There seems to be a few 'diversity' events happening in > > the same building that night so watch out in case you get dragged into a > > LGBT meet :-) > > > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Lynch wrote: > > > >> I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves > >> then. > >> Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty or > >> club > >> in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a > >> treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to bring > a > >> crate of coke to each meeting. > >> > >> Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of Computer > >> Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old part > of > >> the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel > weird > >> going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't leave > any > >> outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. > >> > >> Looking forward to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < > >> heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Make mine Pepsi. 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URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 21:11:39 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:11:39 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: <499E91DE.32541.DCD62@heckle.btinternet.com> Message-ID: Oh and yes, there will be some net access - so feel free to bring your laptops. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: > He he, yes I don't fancy the health and safety forms involved with > introducing those kettles :-) > > I'll put together a little informal agenda nearer the time. I have three > items, so any other topics please let me know. They don't have to be > presentations or demos, they could just be discussion topics. > > Les > > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sounds good. I won't bring any exploding kettles. Is there any kind of >> agenda? Don't really mind either way, just enquiring. Could be a good >> setup though for teaching as it where. Also do we get to use the >> campus wlan? >> >> >> >> On 2/20/09, Les Pritchard wrote: >> > Would that be a treasurer using GNU Cash?! Yes please bring your >> preferred >> > refreshments please! >> > >> > We're in a room in the Binks building. Nice and easy to find and >> there's >> > parking near by. There seems to be a few 'diversity' events happening >> in >> > the same building that night so watch out in case you get dragged into a >> > LGBT meet :-) >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Lynch >> wrote: >> > >> >> I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves >> >> then. >> >> Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty or >> >> club >> >> in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a >> >> treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to >> bring a >> >> crate of coke to each meeting. >> >> >> >> Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of Computer >> >> Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old part >> of >> >> the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel >> weird >> >> going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't leave >> any >> >> outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. >> >> >> >> Looking forward to it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < >> >> heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Make mine Pepsi. 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They don't have to be >> presentations or demos, they could just be discussion topics. >> >> Les >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sounds good. I won't bring any exploding kettles. Is there any kind of >>> agenda? Don't really mind either way, just enquiring. Could be a good >>> setup though for teaching as it where. Also do we get to use the >>> campus wlan? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/20/09, Les Pritchard wrote: >>> > Would that be a treasurer using GNU Cash?! Yes please bring your >>> preferred >>> > refreshments please! >>> > >>> > We're in a room in the Binks building. Nice and easy to find and >>> there's >>> > parking near by. There seems to be a few 'diversity' events happening >>> in >>> > the same building that night so watch out in case you get dragged into >>> a >>> > LGBT meet :-) >>> > >>> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Lynch >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves >>> >> then. >>> >> Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty or >>> >> club >>> >> in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a >>> >> treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to >>> bring a >>> >> crate of coke to each meeting. >>> >> >>> >> Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of >>> Computer >>> >> Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old >>> part of >>> >> the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel >>> weird >>> >> going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't leave >>> any >>> >> outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. >>> >> >>> >> Looking forward to it. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < >>> >> heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Make mine Pepsi. Who's bringing the Bacardi ? >>> >>> >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Chester mailing list >>> >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Chester mailing list >>> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BTW - Dan, give Fab a slap, he has gotten me hooked on #! - > no more suse goodness at home! > > 2009/2/20 Les Pritchard > > Oh and yes, there will be some net access - so feel free to bring your >> laptops. >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: >> >>> He he, yes I don't fancy the health and safety forms involved with >>> introducing those kettles :-) >>> >>> I'll put together a little informal agenda nearer the time. I have three >>> items, so any other topics please let me know. They don't have to be >>> presentations or demos, they could just be discussion topics. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Stuart Burns < >>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good. I won't bring any exploding kettles. Is there any kind of >>>> agenda? Don't really mind either way, just enquiring. Could be a good >>>> setup though for teaching as it where. Also do we get to use the >>>> campus wlan? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/20/09, Les Pritchard wrote: >>>> > Would that be a treasurer using GNU Cash?! Yes please bring your >>>> preferred >>>> > refreshments please! >>>> > >>>> > We're in a room in the Binks building. Nice and easy to find and >>>> there's >>>> > parking near by. There seems to be a few 'diversity' events happening >>>> in >>>> > the same building that night so watch out in case you get dragged into >>>> a >>>> > LGBT meet :-) >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Lynch >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I think bringing stuff is probably best, everyone can suit themselves >>>> >> then. >>>> >> Perhaps if we start doing this more regularly we could have a kitty >>>> or >>>> >> club >>>> >> in to buy things like refreshments, just a thought. Would we need a >>>> >> treasurer then as well? hehe :) Doesn't seem fair to expect Les to >>>> bring a >>>> >> crate of coke to each meeting. >>>> >> >>>> >> Which part of the Uni are we in btw? I actually did 3 years of >>>> Computer >>>> >> Science at Chester (2000-03) so I know it a bit. Are we in the old >>>> part of >>>> >> the uni up near the chapel or down in the computer block? It'll feel >>>> weird >>>> >> going back to the campus after a few years away, I hope I didn't >>>> leave any >>>> >> outstanding coursework and an alarm goes off. >>>> >> >>>> >> Looking forward to it. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, heckle at btinternet.com < >>>> >> heckle at btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Make mine Pepsi. Who's bringing the Bacardi ? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> D >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Chester mailing list >>>> >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Chester mailing list >>>> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It adopted advanced ideas from other file systems of the day (such as the Berkeley Fast File System [FFS]). Ext2 extended supported file systems of 2TB in size, although 2.6 kernels extended the maximum size of ext2 file systems to 32TB. Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 22:00:23 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:00:23 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet directions Message-ID: Hi all, So as it stands the topics for this Thursday evening are: Git ZFS OpenVZ Crunchbag Linux The meet is being held in the 'Binks' building, room CBK010. I've included a link to the campus map. Enter the campus via the Exton Park entrance (off Parkgate Road) and the Binks building is number 18. There is parking next to building 62. http://www.chester.ac.uk/contact/campus_ches.html See you there! 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There is parking next > to building 62. > > http://www.chester.ac.uk/contact/campus_ches.html > > See you there! > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcgibson at talktalk.net Wed Feb 25 20:51:59 2009 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:51:59 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet directions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A5AF6B.4080902@talktalk.net> Sorry, it looks to be a good meet, but unfortunately I'll not be able to make it, but do continue to plan 'hands on' nights. Roger. Les Pritchard said the following on 23/02/2009 22:00: > Hi all, > > So as it stands the topics for this Thursday evening are: > > Git > ZFS > OpenVZ > Crunchbag Linux > > The meet is being held in the 'Binks' building, room CBK010. 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There is parking next > to building 62. > > http://www.chester.ac.uk/contact/campus_ches.html > > See you there! > > Les > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iamseawolf at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 17:10:28 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:10:28 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Reminder: Tech meet directions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0902260910je15e199x8508e035eedbc244@mail.gmail.com> I've gotten a decent amount of uni work done this afternoon so will see you all after dinner! Ben (: 2009/2/26 Les Pritchard : > Tonight! > > See you there! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Les Pritchard > Date: Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:00 PM > Subject: Tech meet directions > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > > Hi all, > > So as it stands the topics for this Thursday evening are: > > Git > ZFS > OpenVZ > Crunchbang Linux > > The meet is being held in the 'Binks' building, room CBK010.  I've included > a link to the campus map.  Enter the campus via the Exton Park entrance (off > Parkgate Road) and the Binks building is number 18.  There is parking next > to building 62. > > http://www.chester.ac.uk/contact/campus_ches.html > > See you there! > > Les > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 17:49:17 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:49:17 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Reminder: Tech meet directions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No problem Dan, I'm not planning on starting the talks until 7.30. Give us 30 mins to get set up and ready. See you later Les On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Dan Lynch wrote: > See you there folks, I'll be along but it might be 7:30 by the time I > arrive. Hope I don't miss too much! See you later :) > > Dan > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Tonight! >> >> See you there! >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Les Pritchard >> Date: Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:00 PM >> Subject: Tech meet directions >> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> So as it stands the topics for this Thursday evening are: >> >> Git >> ZFS >> OpenVZ >> Crunchbang Linux >> >> The meet is being held in the 'Binks' building, room CBK010. I've >> included a link to the campus map. Enter the campus via the Exton Park >> entrance (off Parkgate Road) and the Binks building is number 18. There is >> parking next to building 62. >> >> http://www.chester.ac.uk/contact/campus_ches.html >> >> See you there! >> >> Les >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From movedx at googlemail.com Thu Feb 26 16:20:14 2009 From: movedx at googlemail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:20:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Greetings Message-ID: Greetings all. It's been a long time since I've been on the mailing list (I think I removed my self from it by accident due to a double-email subscription) and even more importantly since I've been to a LUG meeting. I hope everyone is well. 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I posted the directions to the list, you can find them in the archives via the link below. http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/chester/2009-February/000913.html See you later Les On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Crilly wrote: > Greetings all. > It's been a long time since I've been on the mailing list (I think I > removed my self from it by accident due to a double-email subscription) and > even more importantly since I've been to a LUG meeting. > > I hope everyone is well. I'm looking to meet up tonight if there is a > meeting on? Are we still holding meetings at the King's Head in Chester? > 19:00'ish? > > Regards, > > -- > M. T. Crilly > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From joe.foy at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 11:15:12 2009 From: joe.foy at gmail.com (Joe Foy) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:15:12 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It seems I was close but not 100% right with why Linus named Git. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) From biglynchy at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 11:39:09 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:39:09 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah a great meet I thought and a really good venue. Thanks to everyone for participating. I was gonna write a quick blog post on the LUG blog today with a couple of my badly out of focus pictures but Les has beaten me to it hehe :) So I'll just add the pics later. I'm definitely interested in trying out some of the stuff we discussed, particularly OpenVZ and ZFS. I haven't used Git really yet but I should try that too. I still reckon Bazaar (bzr) might be worth a look for those interested in version control, just as another option or comparison really. It's similar to Git but claims be more user friendly, a bit like the "Linux for human beings" slogan you'd expect from Canonical. I don't know how successful or powerful it is in comparison to Git as I don't do many large coding projects these days. It's written in Python so may be slower on large code repositories but I can't say, worth experimenting with I think - http://bazaar-vcs.org/ I'm not buying that business of Git standing for "global information tracker". I reckon Linus knew what he was doing with that name and someone's come up with the acronymn afterwards to explain it, a bit like GIMP and all the other weird names we get in free software. See you next month Dan On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Joe Foy wrote: > It seems I was close but not 100% right with why Linus named Git. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Fri Feb 27 21:20:04 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:20:04 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200902272119.56587.dh@iucr.org> On Friday 27 February 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks to everyone for coming last night - I've posted some handy links on > the LUG Blog if you fancy playing with any of the technologies discussed. > > Have fun! > > Les Yes, Thanks Les, great meeting. Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. 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It is stupid situations like this with NetWare that annoy me. It seems to be death by 1000 cuts. (or you want this functionality, you pay for it) The problem with rip and replace is mainly NetWare proprietry crap, like Access Manager and majorly, GroupWise. Has anybody ever been in this position. If so, what did you do ? Regards Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iamseawolf at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 22:31:00 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:31:00 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0902271430p2021f327v54722287a9afb4e@mail.gmail.com> 2009/2/27 Les Pritchard : > Thanks to everyone for coming last night - I've posted some handy links on > the LUG Blog if you fancy playing with any of the technologies discussed. Enjoyed it muchly; thanks to you both for the presentations, very interesting. The venue seemed to work quite well too, inviting discussion and all. I'll have a play with a couple of things during the holidays when I have more than one machine ( physically :] ) and a bit of free time! I was cursing today for not using version control on my uni programming assignment though! Ben (: -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From nick.northcote at abctechnology.co.uk Sat Feb 28 16:46:26 2009 From: nick.northcote at abctechnology.co.uk (Nick Northcote) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:46:26 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tech meet (Nick Northcote) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1235839571.3615.17.camel@abctechnology.gotdns.org> Les, Very pleasant meeting with lots of useful tips. Great venue too. Nick -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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