From andy at tensixtyone.com Wed Jun 3 08:13:03 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:13:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool Linux User Group Meeting - 03/06/09, Bob Ham - JACK Message-ID: <20090603081255.GC30772@manex.tensixtyone.com> Wednesday June 3, 2009 at 7:00pm Liverpool Social Centre 96 Bold Street Liverpool, England L1 4HY Liverpool Linux User Group are a group of Linux and open source software users that meet on the first Wednesday of the month. If no talk is organised then we will usually organise a "open stage" for people to discuss projects, current news, or just to rant. Main Talk This month's talk will be a introduction to the JACK audio toolkit by Bob Ham Open Stage After the main talk the stage will be opened for anyone to pimp their current projects or give a short talk about any subject. After the talks we will head to a local pub, The Welkin, just off Lord Street. This is a change from our usual of the Old Ropewalks but they've decided to go back to their 8:00pm closing time. Website: http://livlug.org.uk/ -- Andrew Williams w: http://tensixtyone.com/ e: andy at tensixtyone.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 22:06:58 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:06:58 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Baby Message-ID: Hi guys, Just thought I'd let you all know that our baby son (finally) arrived early yesterday morning. Max Brian Pritchard, weighing 8lbs 14oz. See you all soon (in a sleepy haze most probably!) Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Paul Williams Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:17:32 To: Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Baby _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From dh at iucr.org Fri Jun 5 09:40:14 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:40:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Baby In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200906051040.09278.dh@iucr.org> On Thursday 04 June 2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi guys, > > Just thought I'd let you all know that our baby son (finally) arrived early > yesterday morning. Max Brian Pritchard, weighing 8lbs 14oz. > > See you all soon (in a sleepy haze most probably!) > > Les Happy Birthday Max! See you in about 3 years time Les! :) Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. 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When Saturday June 13th 2009 12:30pm -> ~2:00pm Where Drupal Camp UK, BBC Manchester, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ Photo: http://tiny.pl/z7bf Map: http://tiny.pl/z7b1 Nearest train station: Manchester Oxford Road (3 mins walking distance) Attending? Due to BBC restrictions, you need to tell us if you wish to attend: http://dfey-nw-5.eventbrite.com/ or email us on team at nw.dfey.org. Drupal Camp UK This is a special meeting taking place as a side session from Drupal Camp UK, which will be happening in the BBC at the same time. This will allow us to share their hospitality for lunch at about 1pm. DFEY-NW Open Session at Drupalcamp-UK DFEY-NW will be an open discussion for anyone to voice their opinions, and to hear the views of other young people on various issues relating to technology. It would also be interesting to discuss how to get more young people into technology using Drupal. This will take place sometime on Saturday afternoon, and is open to all those attending Drupal Camp UK. http://drupalcamp.org.uk/session/dfey-nw-open-discussion --- In case you need it, here's some contact information: Tim's mobile: 07922334403 Email: team at nw.dfey.org ================= DFEY-NW Community: Web: http://nw.dfey.org Mailing list: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss IRC: #dfey on irc.freenode.net Identi.ca & Twitter: #dfey & #dfeynw Forum: http://www.nw.dfey.org/wiki/Forum Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24304402298 -- www.tdobson.net ---- If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Fri Jun 12 21:28:50 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:28:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] virtualisation questions Message-ID: Ok. I fancy playing around with virtualisation again. Only this time, I plan to get it right. Hopefully. A few questions though: Has anyone got the full virtual desktop working without missing stuff like USB support or the like, without laying out hard currency or extensively using the command line to construct it? If so, how? Virtualbox suggested 10GB for virtualisation, then loaded an ISO of the OS I wanted to virtualise (XP at the time). Can I use the same 10GB for every virtual desktop, loading from a different ISO each time, or will that cause problems? Or do I need a separate 10GB (or whatever size) for each virtual desktop? Can I use a flash drive as my virtual desktop space? My laptop uses 2 partitions for XP (something to do with restore) and 2 for Ubuntu (/ and swap). I was told that 4 was my limit. True / false? if true, why and is there a workaround? 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I've a Fedora 10 desktop (P4 @ 3Ghz dual core, 1.5GB RAM) with does the job fine. I have VirtualBox set up with many Linux distros and Windows installs (specifically Slack, Ubu, OpenSolaris and FreeBSD; Windows XP) without any problems. This was done simply by creating a new machine and hard disk within it, and installing a OS by mounting the installation media (i.e. CD/DVD) inside the machine) and completing the installation. These use the VirtualBox extensions (packages/exe) which link with the host's VirtualBox system to allow transparent network usage etc. Within Windows, Seamless Mode gives the taskbar and windows a place within the Linux (host) desktop as if they were regular programs. he Windows desktop disappears and you are left with a hole to see thorough to your Linux desktop. If you use Linux in a VirtualBox, I think the extensions don't quite line up as one would expect but everything is contained properly. This is all done within the individual setup of each virtual machine by mounting the VirtualBox Guest Extensions CD image and running the installer from within the machine. The USB support does depend on whether you download the full VirtualBox installation or the 'open-source' version or whatever it's called, Because of license issues, the fully open-source version can't be shipped with full USB support. I believe this is detailed on the website. > Virtualbox suggested 10GB for virtualisation, then loaded an ISO of the OS > I wanted to virtualise (XP at the time). Can I use the same 10GB for every > virtual desktop, loading from a different ISO each time, or will that cause > problems? Or do I need a separate 10GB (or whatever size) for each virtual > desktop? > > Can I use a flash drive as my virtual desktop space? I'll answer these in one blow. Virtual hard drives are contained in the same way that CD ISOs are: that is a hard disk is one file, with various compression and construct algorithms that make it contain a partition table and data you store. Just as a hard drisk takes up one physical media, one image takes up one file. This means each partition a whole disk is stored in one file, stored anywhere you like on your system. There are issues such as UUIDs being saved to identify each drive but that is beyond scope. > My laptop uses 2 partitions for XP (something to do with restore) If it is bought from a certain manufacturers, this partition could contain bootable files or such that could make system restoration easier. I know from experience with my dad's work that HP give restore CDs with boot and use files on said partition. I believe Dell do the same. > and 2 for > Ubuntu (/ and swap). I was told that 4 was my limit. True / false? if > true, why and is there a workaround? This would be because IDE drives have a limit on the partition table: specifically, no more than 4 primary partitions can be made. It is true, though, that three primary and one extended can be made, the extended containing many (IIRC up to 99) partitions with whatever you like. > Cheers > > > Paul > Please bear in mind this is very late in the night (or early in the morning); I can reply with clearer answers tomorrow! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 09:25:49 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:25:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Firstly, does anyone have a usb floppy drive I could borrow. I made the mistake of getting a iDeq mini system and it has a major issue where if you try and do any sustained data transfer to a USB device it just crashes out hard. I am hoping the bios update will fix it but it can only be done from a floppy drive. How 1980s is that! Secondly, and this is where it will get your geek juices really really flowing. At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) Now I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen a week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. I kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super machine ;) The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put simply each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle to metal computing per year. I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can do 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) Around 24 GB RAM 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre bonded FC4 Fibre cards. 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. Lastly, does anyone have any experience of add in Compute boards. I am interested to know, but not going to splash out 2.5K on a board that may or may not improve performance. Anyhow, interested to know peoples thoughts. Stu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Fri Jun 19 10:03:49 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:03:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200906191103.43177.dh@iucr.org> On Friday 19 Jun 2009, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Firstly, does anyone have a usb floppy drive I could borrow. I made the > mistake of getting a iDeq mini system and it has a major issue where if you > try and do any sustained data transfer to a USB device it just crashes out > hard. > > I am hoping the bios update will fix it but it can only be done from a > floppy drive. How 1980s is that! > > Secondly, and this is where it will get your geek juices really really > flowing. > > At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) > Now I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen > a week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. > > Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. I > kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super > machine ;) > > The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. > > Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Wish we all lived in that world ;) > Put simply > each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle to > metal computing per year. > > I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can > do 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) > > Around 24 GB RAM > 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. > 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre > bonded FC4 Fibre cards. > 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. http://www.transtec.co.uk/GB/E/products/servers/CALLEO300/calleo_340_Intel.html configure to your hearts content. > > Lastly, does anyone have any experience of add in Compute boards. I am > interested to know, but not going to splash out 2.5K on a board that may or > may not improve performance. > > Anyhow, interested to know peoples thoughts. > > Stu -- Dr. David Holden. See: regarding Word or PowerPoint. GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thats a massive dataset for a single report, does it use the whole set or just a subset? > Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put simply > each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle to metal > computing per year. > > I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can do > 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) > > Around 24 GB RAM > 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. > 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre > bonded FC4 Fibre cards. > 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. I suspect that 90% of runtime will be grabbing data from that large set, I think you should look at dual 1 GB NICs, that is if your network infrastructure supports it. I guess it depends on the app and how it actually handles the data, but wads of RAM and CPU time will help it along, I think Core Duos will give you more bang per CPU, if the app has multicpu issues then you want a processer that can really hammer the calculations on a single core. -- Andrew Williams w: http://tensixtyone.com/ e: andy at tensixtyone.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 10:24:56 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:24:56 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: <20090619100415.GA1791@manex.tensixtyone.com> References: <20090619100415.GA1791@manex.tensixtyone.com> Message-ID: Hi Guys, Thanks for that info. In answer to a few questions: 40 GB is a big data set. But that doesn't even include the tiles. Part of the issue I suspect is that we are trying to use this bit of software that was designed for small sites and run reports based on the whole of the country, so we probabily have one of the largest data sets ever seen in this respect. The data comes from the SAN via a onboard (well built into the machine) fibre connect at 4 GB/s. The dual GB nics sounds like a good idea. However the server is a Sun server of a certain vintage. It may be well worth looking at the link into the DB in terms of speed. Would replicating the data on the local machine be an idea? What I may do is discuss with these people (They are map geeks, not computer geeks) to see if we can somehow break down the data sets. It does seem rather inefficient. If I get a gold star, I shall buy you all a pint ;) It is not idea, but the software step up to the daddy of the spatial software is I suspect measured in 6 figures and we aren't talking the last two being pence! Defo some things to think about. If we can get the price down a tad, we could buy two of them! ;) 2009/6/19 Andrew Williams > Being a BI myself, hopefully I can put some good input in :) > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:25:42AM +0100, Stuart Burns wrote: > > At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) > Now > > I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen a > > week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. > > > > Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. I > > kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super > > machine ;) > > > > The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. > > Thats a massive dataset for a single report, does it use the whole set > or just a subset? > > > Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put > simply > > each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle to > metal > > computing per year. > > > > I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can > do > > 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) > > > > Around 24 GB RAM > > 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. > > 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre > > bonded FC4 Fibre cards. > > 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. > > I suspect that 90% of runtime will be grabbing data from that large set, > I think you should look at dual 1 GB NICs, that is if your network > infrastructure supports it. > > I guess it depends on the app and how it actually handles the data, but > wads of RAM and CPU time will help it along, I think Core Duos will give > you more bang per CPU, if the app has multicpu issues then you want a > processer that can really hammer the calculations on a single core. > > > -- > Andrew Williams > w: http://tensixtyone.com/ > e: andy at tensixtyone.com > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAko7Yp8ACgkQOYXUY+Bc/8DuZQCeNNO2EjFwANQ8EaUKGi8g05cN > NtQAoNuv3DVkTBNEenURgYgz7s89d5Vr > =J1OD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at goatadsl.co.uk Fri Jun 19 11:51:25 2009 From: george at goatadsl.co.uk (George) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:51:25 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: References: <20090619100415.GA1791@manex.tensixtyone.com> Message-ID: <4A3B7BB2.3040300@goatadsl.co.uk> Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Thanks for that info. In answer to a few questions: And a few more: Have you checked on the laptop to establish whether it's maxing out the memory and CPU? Have you tried copying a large file from the server to the laptop whilst measuring the speed? Is the performance acceptable? With a database the work load is more likely small non-sequential reads but a large file will be a reasonable test to start with. Which operating system is the laptop running? and how is it connecting to the storage holding the database? SMB? NFS? iSCSI? You say database - do you know what kind? Is it possible to see whether appropriate indexes have been defined? Working with the application vendor to ensure that these are operating correctly may give a large speed increase. If it's possible to switch from a file based database to a server based one that might also help. Also which application is this? Regards, George From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 19:26:08 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:26:08 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Stuart, I'm afraid I avoid GIS in work! But I can lend you a USB floppy drive if I can dig it out. Les On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Firstly, does anyone have a usb floppy drive I could borrow. I made the > mistake of getting a iDeq mini system and it has a major issue where if you > try and do any sustained data transfer to a USB device it just crashes out > hard. > > I am hoping the bios update will fix it but it can only be done from a > floppy drive. How 1980s is that! > > Secondly, and this is where it will get your geek juices really really > flowing. > > At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) > Now I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen > a week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. > > Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. I > kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super > machine ;) > > The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. > > Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put simply > each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle to metal > computing per year. > > I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can > do 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) > > Around 24 GB RAM > 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. > 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre > bonded FC4 Fibre cards. > 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. > > Lastly, does anyone have any experience of add in Compute boards. I am > interested to know, but not going to splash out 2.5K on a board that may or > may not improve performance. > > Anyhow, interested to know peoples thoughts. > > Stu > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 19:47:33 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:47:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone. There are some very good questions there. I will get some more answers on Tuesday when I am in next. The data is as far as I am aware based on Sun NFS shares for the tiles and an oracle 10g database for the actual data (again based on a Sun box with a 100Mbit interconnect to the core backbone. The software in question is called FME and the website is safe.com The rest of the information I shall get on Tuesday. Les - Thanks for that. I will email you about picking it up, if thats ok? Stu 2009/6/19 Les Pritchard > Hi Stuart, > > I'm afraid I avoid GIS in work! But I can lend you a USB floppy drive if I > can dig it out. > > Les > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Firstly, does anyone have a usb floppy drive I could borrow. I made the >> mistake of getting a iDeq mini system and it has a major issue where if you >> try and do any sustained data transfer to a USB device it just crashes out >> hard. >> >> I am hoping the bios update will fix it but it can only be done from a >> floppy drive. How 1980s is that! >> >> Secondly, and this is where it will get your geek juices really really >> flowing. >> >> At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) >> Now I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen >> a week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. >> >> Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. I >> kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super >> machine ;) >> >> The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. >> >> Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put >> simply each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle >> to metal computing per year. >> >> I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can >> do 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) >> >> Around 24 GB RAM >> 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. >> 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre >> bonded FC4 Fibre cards. >> 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. >> >> Lastly, does anyone have any experience of add in Compute boards. I am >> interested to know, but not going to splash out 2.5K on a board that may or >> may not improve performance. >> >> Anyhow, interested to know peoples thoughts. >> >> Stu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 21:18:16 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:18:16 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No problem (btw for any GIS fans - my last email wasn't a poke at GIS - I just have enough systems to manage as it is!) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi everyone. > > There are some very good questions there. I will get some more answers on > Tuesday when I am in next. > > The data is as far as I am aware based on Sun NFS shares for the tiles and > an oracle 10g database for the actual data (again based on a Sun box with a > 100Mbit interconnect to the core backbone. > > The software in question is called FME and the website is safe.com > > The rest of the information I shall get on Tuesday. > > Les - Thanks for that. I will email you about picking it up, if thats ok? > > Stu > > 2009/6/19 Les Pritchard > > Hi Stuart, >> >> I'm afraid I avoid GIS in work! But I can lend you a USB floppy drive if >> I can dig it out. >> >> Les >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Firstly, does anyone have a usb floppy drive I could borrow. I made the >>> mistake of getting a iDeq mini system and it has a major issue where if you >>> try and do any sustained data transfer to a USB device it just crashes out >>> hard. >>> >>> I am hoping the bios update will fix it but it can only be done from a >>> floppy drive. How 1980s is that! >>> >>> Secondly, and this is where it will get your geek juices really really >>> flowing. >>> >>> At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) >>> Now I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen >>> a week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. >>> >>> Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. I >>> kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super >>> machine ;) >>> >>> The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. >>> >>> Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put >>> simply each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle >>> to metal computing per year. >>> >>> I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program can >>> do 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) >>> >>> Around 24 GB RAM >>> 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. >>> 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre >>> bonded FC4 Fibre cards. >>> 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. >>> >>> Lastly, does anyone have any experience of add in Compute boards. I am >>> interested to know, but not going to splash out 2.5K on a board that may or >>> may not improve performance. >>> >>> Anyhow, interested to know peoples thoughts. >>> >>> Stu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 21:21:08 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:21:08 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A few bits and pieces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well so do I Les, but the geekyness is just awesome is it not. We all crave the GHz ;) 2009/6/19 Les Pritchard > No problem > > (btw for any GIS fans - my last email wasn't a poke at GIS - I just have > enough systems to manage as it is!) > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone. >> >> There are some very good questions there. I will get some more answers on >> Tuesday when I am in next. >> >> The data is as far as I am aware based on Sun NFS shares for the tiles and >> an oracle 10g database for the actual data (again based on a Sun box with a >> 100Mbit interconnect to the core backbone. >> >> The software in question is called FME and the website is safe.com >> >> The rest of the information I shall get on Tuesday. >> >> Les - Thanks for that. I will email you about picking it up, if thats ok? >> >> Stu >> >> 2009/6/19 Les Pritchard >> >> Hi Stuart, >>> >>> I'm afraid I avoid GIS in work! But I can lend you a USB floppy drive if >>> I can dig it out. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Stuart Burns < >>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> Firstly, does anyone have a usb floppy drive I could borrow. I made the >>>> mistake of getting a iDeq mini system and it has a major issue where if you >>>> try and do any sustained data transfer to a USB device it just crashes out >>>> hard. >>>> >>>> I am hoping the bios update will fix it but it can only be done from a >>>> floppy drive. How 1980s is that! >>>> >>>> Secondly, and this is where it will get your geek juices really really >>>> flowing. >>>> >>>> At work we do a lot of GIS reporting (creating reports based on 3d maps) >>>> Now I was just speaking to the guy who runs these reports (They get a dozen >>>> a week to run or so, depending on what is happening) can't cope. >>>> >>>> Until now they have been running on a core duo laptop with 1 GB of ram. >>>> I kid you not. Each report takes 48 hours. I suggested they get a super >>>> machine ;) >>>> >>>> The data set (40 GB) comes from a SAN. >>>> >>>> Can anyone suggest a high end rig (Money more or less no object) Put >>>> simply each 10% quicker it can go, it could save up to two weeks of peddle >>>> to metal computing per year. >>>> >>>> I was thinking along the lines of a top of the line AMD (This program >>>> can do 64 bit computing but doesn't do multiple cpus that efficiently) >>>> >>>> Around 24 GB RAM >>>> 2 * 15K SATA 500 GB in a raid stripe config. >>>> 1 GB NIC as the data comes from a fibre >>>> bonded FC4 Fibre cards. >>>> 1 GB Dual head video card with onboard acceleration. >>>> >>>> Lastly, does anyone have any experience of add in Compute boards. 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All being well I will see you there! > > Les > -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From biglynchy at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 11:16:44 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:16:44 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social meet In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0906241640g43e997e9q238fccdd1c51c567@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0906241640g43e997e9q238fccdd1c51c567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry guys I'm in Berlin at Linux Tag till the end of the week. It's overrun by Fedora people which makes a nice change from Ubuntu. Met Paul Frields and Max Spevak, really nice guys.They talked even me into installing Fedora 11, should be interesting. They're having a FUDcon here at the same time. Will be check that out too. Complain about my install doesn't work hehe :) See you next month I hope, have a great time and take care. Dan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Ben Arnold wrote: > I've just put out a notice for any Identicators (eww, hideous word) > who may be about or want to join the group - > http://identi.ca/notice/5722628 > > Ben > > On 24/06/2009, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > Sorry for the late reminder but I've had my hands full this month!! > Anyway, > > it's time for the LUG social tomorrow evening at the Old King's Head from > > 7pm. All being well I will see you there! > > > > Les > > > > > -- > | seawolf | > | Ben Arnold | > | e-mail / msn / icq / web | > | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | > | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 11:37:21 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:37:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social meet In-Reply-To: References: <9c3bfa1d0906241640g43e997e9q238fccdd1c51c567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Dan, Yes I figured it would be a bit too far for you to nip over tonight! Nice to hear Fedora getting some support. I installed 11 a few weeks back and it seems really nice. Very quick booting, I just realised I've been using Ubuntu so much recently I've got out of my old RedHat habits! Les On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Dan Lynch wrote: > Sorry guys I'm in Berlin at Linux Tag till the end of the week. It's > overrun by Fedora people which makes a nice change from Ubuntu. Met Paul > Frields and Max Spevak, really nice guys.They talked even me into installing > Fedora 11, should be interesting. They're having a FUDcon here at the same > time. Will be check that out too. Complain about my install doesn't work > hehe :) > > > See you next month I hope, have a great time and take care. > > Dan > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Ben Arnold wrote: > >> I've just put out a notice for any Identicators (eww, hideous word) >> who may be about or want to join the group - >> http://identi.ca/notice/5722628 >> >> Ben >> >> On 24/06/2009, Les Pritchard wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > Sorry for the late reminder but I've had my hands full this month!! >> Anyway, >> > it's time for the LUG social tomorrow evening at the Old King's Head >> from >> > 7pm. All being well I will see you there! >> > >> > Les >> > >> >> >> -- >> | seawolf | >> | Ben Arnold | >> | e-mail / msn / icq / web | >> | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | >> | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smedley358 at btinternet.com Thu Jun 25 13:31:23 2009 From: smedley358 at btinternet.com (Richard Smedley) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:31:23 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Chester Performs... Message-ID: <4A437C22.4080102@btinternet.com> There's a few multi-media people on the list, so I thought that this may be of interest: (It's in October, but today appears to be the deadline for submissions.) ____________________________________________ 13 - Up The Wall - Call for Proposals 25 Jun 2009 Chester Performs is looking for artists to take part in Up the Wall by contributing contextually relevant existing work or newly created site specific performances and installations. Taking the Roman Garden as its focal point, Up the Wall invites the audience to a twilight promenade of the city wall and gardens. Intervention, live art, contemporary performance, sonic art and multimedia - site-specific works, walking tours, architectural projection, mapping projects all are encouraged. For further information go to the website: http://www.chesterperforms.com/site/our-projects/2009-programme/up-the-wall-2009/artist-call-out ... http://www.bloc.org.uk/cgi-bin/showbig.cgi?id=1064&news=true ____________________________________________ From iamseawolf at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 18:28:24 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:28:24 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social meet In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0906241640g43e997e9q238fccdd1c51c567@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0906241640g43e997e9q238fccdd1c51c567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0906251128h1307387emb61b4101d404de5c@mail.gmail.com> Afraid i'm going to sit this'un out as I'm knackered from moving in over these past few days. Well, that and I'm sporting the terrorist look as i left my shaver in my old place! I'll be putting F11 through it's virtual paces instead (: Hope to make it next month though, also to Liverpool should anyone be there. Have a good eve. Ben -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 18:36:51 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:36:51 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social meet In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0906251128h1307387emb61b4101d404de5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0906241640g43e997e9q238fccdd1c51c567@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0906251128h1307387emb61b4101d404de5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes if anyone's picking this up in the pub, I don't think I'll be able to make it after all. Sorry about that, but junior is needing my attention! Hope you have a good night and if I don't get there later I'll see you all soon. Les On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Ben Arnold wrote: > Afraid i'm going to sit this'un out as I'm knackered from moving in > over these past few days. Well, that and I'm sporting the terrorist > look as i left my shaver in my old place! I'll be putting F11 through > it's virtual paces instead (: > > > Hope to make it next month though, also to Liverpool should anyone be > there. > > Have a good eve. > Ben > > -- > | seawolf | > | Ben Arnold | > | e-mail / msn / icq / web | > | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | > | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From movedx at googlemail.com Sat Jun 27 17:13:21 2009 From: movedx at googlemail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:13:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mac Mini Message-ID: Greetings all, Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any decent Mac capable of running Leopard that I can buy? I want to give Leopard/OS X a try and see if it takes my fancy. Any tips would be appreciated. Regards, -- M. T. Crilly http://www.mcrilly.me/ From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 20:04:42 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:04:42 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you can wait a couple of weeks I can maybe get you a g3 - It will run 10.4. For free. 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > Greetings all, > > Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any decent Mac capable of > running Leopard that I can buy? I want to give Leopard/OS X a try and > see if it takes my fancy. > > Any tips would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > -- > M. T. Crilly > http://www.mcrilly.me/ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 20:14:15 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:14:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thats just greedy ;) what would you do with two. I got a Mac G4 dual core from for £0 some time back because the cd rom was broken lol. Sold it for £400 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > I've just got a Mac Mini G4 on the cheap, but I'll take that G3 mate. :) > > On Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM, "Stuart Burns" > wrote: > > If you can wait a couple of weeks I can maybe get you a g3 - It will run > 10.4. For free. > > 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > >> > > Greetings all, > > Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any decent >> Mac capable of > running ... >> >> > > -- > M. T. Crilly > http://www.mcrilly.me/ > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From movedx at googlemail.com Sat Jun 27 21:05:41 2009 From: movedx at googlemail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:05:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mate, Yeah well greedy ;) Well, I've bought the Mini G4 to try out Leopard. If I like it, then I'll save up and get a new Mac Mini C2D around September when Snow Leopard comes out, and pass this G4 onto the parents (I think they'll love it). The G3 could be useful as a dryer for wet socks after coming home from a camping trip. The cats would also love sleeping on it too ;) On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Thats just greedy ;) what would you do with two. I got a Mac G4 dual core > from for £0 some time back because the cd rom was broken lol. Sold it for > £400 > > 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly >> >> I've just got a Mac Mini G4 on the cheap, but I'll take that G3 mate. :) >> >> On Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM, "Stuart Burns" >> wrote: >> >> If you can wait a couple of weeks I can maybe get you a g3 - It will run >> 10.4. For free. >> >> 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly >>> >>> > > Greetings all, > > Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any >>> > > decent Mac capable of > running ... >>> >>> > > -- > M. T. Crilly > http://www.mcrilly.me/ > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- M. T. Crilly http://www.mcrilly.me/ From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 21:17:50 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is this the cat with the cna ;) Did anyone tell u , dave left meyer 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > Hi Mate, > > Yeah well greedy ;) > > Well, I've bought the Mini G4 to try out Leopard. If I like it, then > I'll save up and get a new Mac Mini C2D around September when Snow > Leopard comes out, and pass this G4 onto the parents (I think they'll > love it). The G3 could be useful as a dryer for wet socks after coming > home from a camping trip. The cats would also love sleeping on it too > ;) > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Stuart > Burns wrote: > > Thats just greedy ;) what would you do with two. I got a Mac G4 dual core > > from for £0 some time back because the cd rom was broken lol. Sold it for > > £400 > > > > 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > >> > >> I've just got a Mac Mini G4 on the cheap, but I'll take that G3 mate. :) > >> > >> On Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM, "Stuart Burns" > >> wrote: > >> > >> If you can wait a couple of weeks I can maybe get you a g3 - It will run > >> 10.4. For free. > >> > >> 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > >>> > >>> > > Greetings all, > > Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any > >>> > > decent Mac capable of > running ... > >>> > >>> > > -- > M. T. Crilly > http://www.mcrilly.me/ > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chester mailing list > >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > -- > M. T. 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If I like it, then >> I'll save up and get a new Mac Mini C2D around September when Snow >> Leopard comes out, and pass this G4 onto the parents (I think they'll >> love it). The G3 could be useful as a dryer for wet socks after coming >> home from a camping trip. The cats would also love sleeping on it too >> ;) >> >> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Stuart >> Burns wrote: >> > Thats just greedy ;) what would you do with two. I got a Mac G4 dual >> > core >> > from for £0 some time back because the cd rom was broken lol. Sold it >> > for >> > £400 >> > >> > 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly >> >> >> >> I've just got a Mac Mini G4 on the cheap, but I'll take that G3 mate. >> >> :) >> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM, "Stuart Burns" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you can wait a couple of weeks I can maybe get you a g3 - It will >> >> run >> >> 10.4. For free. >> >> >> >> 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly >> >>> >> >>> > > Greetings all, > > Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any >> >>> > > decent Mac capable of > running ... >> >>> >> >>> > > -- > M. T. Crilly > http://www.mcrilly.me/ > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chester mailing list >> >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chester mailing list >> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chester mailing list >> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chester mailing list >> > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> M. T. Crilly >> http://www.mcrilly.me/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- M. T. Crilly http://www.mcrilly.me/ From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 21:44:44 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:44:44 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lynda is fine, still doing her new degree in learning disability nursing. Hope to be a kept man when she finishes. As for bangor, threatening to leave. Long story but actually have so much holiday/overtime I need to carry overlike 24days,and I will only be doing a 4 day week soon, but on same wages. Hard life bein a civil servant! We are quite happy with the status quo. Hows stuff going on your side ? Stu 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > Yep. She has an MCSE now haha > > Yeah Gary told me. I was at the pub with the lads from Meyer on > Friday. Just had a pub lunch to say "hello." > > How have you been? How's the missus? How come you aint moved to Bangor > yet, not sold the house? > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Stuart > Burns wrote: > > Is this the cat with the cna ;) Did anyone tell u , dave left meyer > > > > 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > >> > >> Hi Mate, > >> > >> Yeah well greedy ;) > >> > >> Well, I've bought the Mini G4 to try out Leopard. If I like it, then > >> I'll save up and get a new Mac Mini C2D around September when Snow > >> Leopard comes out, and pass this G4 onto the parents (I think they'll > >> love it). The G3 could be useful as a dryer for wet socks after coming > >> home from a camping trip. The cats would also love sleeping on it too > >> ;) > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Stuart > >> Burns wrote: > >> > Thats just greedy ;) what would you do with two. I got a Mac G4 dual > >> > core > >> > from for £0 some time back because the cd rom was broken lol. Sold it > >> > for > >> > £400 > >> > > >> > 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > >> >> > >> >> I've just got a Mac Mini G4 on the cheap, but I'll take that G3 mate. > >> >> :) > >> >> > >> >> On Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM, "Stuart Burns" < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> If you can wait a couple of weeks I can maybe get you a g3 - It will > >> >> run > >> >> 10.4. For free. > >> >> > >> >> 2009/6/27 Michael Crilly > >> >>> > >> >>> > > Greetings all, > > Does anyone happen to have a Mac Mini or any > >> >>> > > decent Mac capable of > running ... > >> >>> > >> >>> > > -- > M. T. 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URL: From andy at tensixtyone.com Mon Jun 29 19:48:07 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:48:07 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool LUG Meeting - 1st July - Tim Dobson: DFEY Message-ID: <20090629194759.GC15410@manex.tensixtyone.com> Liverpool Linux User Group - Tim Dobson: DFEY Wednesday July 1, 2009 from 7:00pm - 8:00pm Liverpool Social Centre 96 Bold Street Liverpool, England L1 4HY Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Liverpool Social Centre, 96 Bold Street, Liverpool Speaker: Tim Dobson Liverpool Linux User Group are a group of Linux and open source software users that meet on the first Wednesday of the month. If no talk is organised then we will usually organise a “open stage” for people to discuss projects, current news, or just to rant. Main Talk This month, Tim Dobson will be giving a talk about the DFEY group. (http://nw.dfey.org/) Open Stage After the main talk the stage will be opened for anyone to pimp their current projects or give a short talk about any subject. Usually, we will meet up in “The Old Ropewalk” pub before the meeting, then head out to the event around 7:00pm. The Liverpool Social Centre is two doors up from Forbidden Planet and is the right-hand door at the front of “News From Nowhere”. Check the window for a handy Liverpool LUG sign, which will indicate we are there and not still at the pub. Press the white doorbell for access (the one marked basement) and someone will come up and open the door for you. After the talks we will usually stay in the meeting area for a while then head out to a local pub, depending on recommendations of the night it maybe The Welkin at the bottom of Lord Street. If you have any difficulties finding the event, please ring a contact number on the website. 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