From iamseawolf at gmail.com Fri May 1 10:02:53 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:02:53 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] ext3 from Windows Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0905010302s64039886ka31718ce33884057@mail.gmail.com> Good morning -- I remember Paul mentioning he uses Windows partitions for cross-platform data as Windows can't access extx(x). I thought I had this fixed, but I couldn't remember the details so kept quiet but: http://www.fs-driver.org/ has a filesystem driver for Windows. A quick install and reboot, use the Computer Management to assign each partition a drive letter (Don't Format as Windows seems to want you to!) as robert's your mother's brother. You can even install it as a read-only driver if you're that paranoid but I've had it access my ext3 from Vista and XP flawlessly. Occasionally Linux wants an fsck but nothing major. Note that the Linux partition must be marked clean for WIndows to get to it. HIH, Ben -- | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri May 1 11:44:47 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:44:47 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] ext3 from Windows In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0905010302s64039886ka31718ce33884057@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0905010302s64039886ka31718ce33884057@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have used it and it is good. Copied gigs and gigs using it. Sometimes it can be a little slow, but it works. It has the stuart seal of approval! 2009/5/1 Ben Arnold > Good morning -- > > I remember Paul mentioning he uses Windows partitions for > cross-platform data as Windows can't access extx(x). I thought I had > this fixed, but I couldn't remember the details so kept quiet but: > > http://www.fs-driver.org/ > > has a filesystem driver for Windows. 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From uncledikki at googlemail.com Sat May 2 20:11:06 2009 From: uncledikki at googlemail.com (Richard Naylor) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 20:11:06 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] At last I'm getting some ware Message-ID: Hi All Now I have an Ubuntu installation up and working thanks for the help and friendly introduction to the group. I down loaded version 9.04 in both 32 and 64 bit and tried an install with the 32 bit which was successful after a time. Compared to Suse, Ubuntu is very slow but it worked, but I had gone back through the option pages and then did not change the HD from sda to sdb so it installed on the same drive as Suse, which I did not discover for a couple of days. any way I have reinstalled it on sdb and started to explore and set things up. Of course the fun starts here with a learning curve that is vertical and a thousands new question. So it is a shame that I can not attend meetings untill June some time when Italian ends. Just a couple for now, one, although I have deleated the first insall on drive sda there is still the opption to boot it in the boot manager, and for tidyness I would like to lose it. Two, I want to get to grips with using Rythumbox or Amarok To manage downloading podcasts and accessing music on the web, does any one use Last.fm I'm having trouble with understanding how it works in Rytnumbox or Amarok! Thanks again Richard. -- Richard Naylor uncledikki at gmail.com 01244 317276 22 Long Lane Hoole Village Chester CH2 2PD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Sat May 2 20:19:35 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 20:19:35 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] At last I'm getting some ware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congrats on getting Ubuntu working fine. I tried Suse, but had major issues with my graphics under it - It off centred my screen by over half of it in both horizontal and vertical axes so I could only see quarter of the screen. I have used Ubuntu for about 18 months now, and I find it fairly straightforward. Sure, I still have problems to solve, but I had that with any OS. As for Amarok and Rhythmbox, never used them much. Sorry. Good luck. Paul Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:10:58 +0100 From: uncledikki at googlemail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Chester LUG] At last I'm getting some ware Hi All Now I have an Ubuntu installation up and working thanks for the help and friendly introduction to the group. I down loaded version 9.04 in both 32 and 64 bit and tried an install with the 32 bit which was successful after a time. Compared to Suse, Ubuntu is very slow but it worked, but I had gone back through the option pages and then did not change the HD from sda to sdb so it installed on the same drive as Suse, which I did not discover for a couple of days. any way I have reinstalled it on sdb and started to explore and set things up. Of course the fun starts here with a learning curve that is vertical and a thousands new question. So it is a shame that I can not attend meetings untill June some time when Italian ends. Just a couple for now, one, although I have deleated the first insall on drive sda there is still the opption to boot it in the boot manager, and for tidyness I would like to lose it. Two, I want to get to grips with using Rythumbox or Amarok To manage downloading podcasts and accessing music on the web, does any one use Last.fm I'm having trouble with understanding how it works in Rytnumbox or Amarok! Thanks again Richard. -- Richard Naylor uncledikki at gmail.com 01244 317276 22 Long Lane Hoole Village Chester CH2 2PD _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Sat May 2 21:29:10 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 21:29:10 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] At last I'm getting some ware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice work getting through the install Richard. Not sure why it would take that long but you got there and that's all that matters. I use Rhythmbox myself and I used to be a heavy Last.fm user. I now use Libre.fm instead which an open source equivalent. I found the Last.fm plugin worked fine for me in Rhythmbox though. You might need to enable it. In Rhythmbox got to the Edit menu on the top bar and then choose "plugins". It's near the bottom. From there you should be able to find the Last.fm plugin in the list and tick it. You can also enter your details using the configure button. So it reports songs to your account properly. For streaming stuff from the site I always found the official last.fm client worked the best. You should be able to install it with a few clicks in Ubuntu. Got to Add/Remove on the main Ubuntu menu, type "last" into the search box to find it quickly, it should be the top option listed. From there you can just tick it to install and click apply. Happy days For your boot menu options you'd need to edit the GRUB config file. GRUB is the bootloader used with most Linux distributions. Do you have SUSE installed still? You're keeping SUSE I presume on one drive and Ubuntu on the other? If so and they appear in the same boot menu along with the old deleted Ubuntu install, you just need to edit the GRUB list file to remove the one you don't want any more. This might involve some command line work so I dunno how confident you are with that. Have a read of the follwing article, it might help - http://boff.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/editing-bootgrubmenulst-to-change-the-grub-boot-menu/ Someone else might be able to offer more detailed help on the GRUB problem. It can be a steep learning curve at times with a new OS but it's worth it in the end. I remember plenty of times in the early days when I felt like giving up but I'm really glad I didn't now. Good luck!! Dan ------------------------- linuxoutlaws.com On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > Congrats on getting Ubuntu working fine. I tried Suse, but had major > issues with my graphics under it - It off centred my screen by over half of > it in both horizontal and vertical axes so I could only see quarter of the > screen. > > I have used Ubuntu for about 18 months now, and I find it fairly > straightforward. Sure, I still have problems to solve, but I had that with > any OS. > > As for Amarok and Rhythmbox, never used them much. Sorry. > > > Good luck. > > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:10:58 +0100 > From: uncledikki at googlemail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Chester LUG] At last I'm getting some ware > > > Hi All > Now I have an Ubuntu installation up and working thanks for the help and > friendly introduction to the group. I down loaded version 9.04 in both 32 > and 64 bit and tried an install with the 32 bit which was successful after a > time. Compared to Suse, Ubuntu is very slow but it worked, but I had gone > back through the option pages and then did not change the HD from sda to sdb > so it installed on the same drive as Suse, which I did not discover for a > couple of days. any way I have reinstalled it on sdb and started to explore > and set things up. > Of course the fun starts here with a learning curve that is vertical and a > thousands new question. So it is a shame that I can not attend meetings > untill June some time when Italian ends. > Just a couple for now, one, although I have deleated the first insall on > drive sda there is still the opption to boot it in the boot manager, and for > tidyness I would like to lose it. > Two, I want to get to grips with using Rythumbox or Amarok To manage > downloading podcasts and accessing music on the web, does any one use > Last.fm I'm having trouble with understanding how it works in Rytnumbox or > Amarok! > > Thanks again > Richard. > > > -- > Richard Naylor > uncledikki at gmail.com > 01244 317276 > 22 Long Lane > Hoole Village > Chester > CH2 2PD > > ------------------------------ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. Try it Now! > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Top Prize: £40 First Runner Up: £10 Brief for Entries ================= * Should be easily recognisable, visually pleasing and easily reproduced in different mediums. * Should echo themes of Digital Freedom, Technology, Young People and Education. * All entries must be licenced under Creative Commons Zero Licence http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0 * Should be submitted in SVG format, though high resolution bitmap might be acceptable. * Ideally, should be created solely using free software but entries created using non-free software will be accepted. * Ideally, shouldn't use that many different primary colours. * Have been emailed entry to logo at dfey.org with the SVG or other image file attached by 23:59, 31st May 2009 Eligibility of Entrants ======================= * Anyone can enter, regardless of age, geographic location etc. * There is no limit to the number of entries per entrant How to Enter ============ 1. Take a moment to read http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition 2. Send an email to logo at dfey.org with the SVG or other image file attached by 23:59, 31st May 2009. 3. Include a statement that you have read and understand you are "are licencing this piece of work to us under the Creative Commons Zero Licence v1" (http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0) 4. Please include your name and (if desired) a link to your blog/website etc. 5. Your entry will be processed and uploaded on to the Entries page. http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition/Entries ----------------------- Winners will be decided upon through a Schulze Method voting system. More information at http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition ----------------------- About DFEY ========== DFEY (Digital Freedom in Education and Youth) is a group formed in response from a growing need to encourage and promote young people's involvement with the free software and technical communities by creating a social space to make it more comfortable for young people to get involved with LUGs and other technical groups. Find out more and get involved at www.dfey.org -- www.tdobson.net ---- If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw From andy at tensixtyone.com Tue May 5 11:17:15 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:17:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] New BT line for free In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090505111709.GA14205@manex.tensixtyone.com> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 02:48:05PM +0100, Les Pritchard wrote: > If you've ever considered getting a second line for another DSL connection > now is a good time to do it: > > http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/public/current/Notice09_boo/2-FrameworkImpl337855.htm > > Twice the downloads anyone?! It's a no-go for 2nd lines, I tried this offer to get a new line installed at mine. At the moment we have a "BT" line that has been held hostage by Bulldog/C&W, it's disconnected and not even connected at the BT exchange end but still they said i'd have to pay 2nd line connection fee of £125. 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On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Andrew Williams wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 02:48:05PM +0100, Les Pritchard wrote: > > If you've ever considered getting a second line for another DSL > connection > > now is a good time to do it: > > > > > http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/public/current/Notice09_boo/2-FrameworkImpl337855.htm > > > > Twice the downloads anyone?! > > It's a no-go for 2nd lines, I tried this offer to get a new line installed > at mine. At the moment we > have a "BT" line that has been held hostage by Bulldog/C&W, it's > disconnected and not even connected > at the BT exchange end but still they said i'd have to pay 2nd line > connection fee of £125. > > The other option they're not advertising is to split out connection costs > between the first 6 months > of the bill, but even then your tied to 12 month contract! > > -- > Andrew Williams > w: http://tensixtyone.com/ > e: andy at tensixtyone.com > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkoAIDQACgkQOYXUY+Bc/8A/9ACfVDVJf0b7dLozqEnUye7Rtv4g > cFoAoOT+DDpuFn5uAVuDXTRW1Rt8GeOW > =M1z4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My cat would love the heat generated :P Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Burns Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:00:44 To: Subject: [Chester LUG] Need good hardware colo recommendations _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From andy at tensixtyone.com Thu May 7 09:32:38 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:32:38 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Need good hardware colo recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090507093232.GA10928@manex.tensixtyone.com> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 08:00:44PM +0100, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > A work related one this, but I will ask anyhow. > > I need to find an alternative host for our companies website and web apps. > It consists of 4 colo'd servers, private LAN and a Cisco firewall. > > Can anyone personally recommend any good hosts that know how to do colo > properly ? > Melbourne (http://melbourne.co.uk), they've got facilities in Manchester Science Park and IFL iirc. 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My cat would love the heat > generated :P > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Burns > > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:00:44 > To: > Subject: [Chester LUG] Need good hardware colo recommendations > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From rcgibson at talktalk.net Mon May 25 11:10:08 2009 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:10:08 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. Message-ID: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> I've a birthday coming soon, and wondered whether folks think that the 'mini' lap top scene has stabilised, and if there is now a consensus on a short list of things to look at. I need something small enough to slip in a small brief case to take to meetings, easy to skip through multi-page documents on, decent battery life, not needed for much than (unfortunately) Windoze compatible documents, spreadsheets etc, web browse and email. But not as small as a blackberry type thing. Possibility of touch typing with 'narrow fingers' an advantage. I prefer it to be cheap enough not to get too upset if I lose/drop it. If Bill Gates has ensured that Windoze XP is the cheapest option, I'll take his money and dual boot, or over-install a Linux OS. Any favourites out there. Roger. From andy at tensixtyone.com Mon May 25 14:42:24 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:42:24 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. In-Reply-To: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> References: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> Message-ID: <20090525144211.GB29029@manex.tensixtyone.com> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:09:58PM +0100, Roger Gibson wrote: > I've a birthday coming soon, and wondered whether folks think that the > 'mini' lap top scene has stabilised, and if there is now a consensus on > a short list of things to look at. I need something small enough to > slip in a small brief case to take to meetings, easy to skip through > multi-page documents on, decent battery life, not needed for much than > (unfortunately) Windoze compatible documents, spreadsheets etc, web > browse and email. But not as small as a blackberry type thing. > Possibility of touch typing with 'narrow fingers' an advantage. I > prefer it to be cheap enough not to get too upset if I lose/drop it. If > Bill Gates has ensured that Windoze XP is the cheapest option, I'll take > his money and dual boot, or over-install a Linux OS. > > Any favourites out there. Roger. I've been eyeing up a Samsung NC10 for a long time now, I've recommended them to people and all i've heard back is good words. At the moment i've got a EeePC 701, dirty cheap now but the screen is a little small for regular use. Maybe one of the new 1000 series would be a good pick if you want to go down the EeePC route. -- Andrew Williams w: http://tensixtyone.com/ e: andy at tensixtyone.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon May 25 14:54:06 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:54:06 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. In-Reply-To: <20090525144211.GB29029@manex.tensixtyone.com> References: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> <20090525144211.GB29029@manex.tensixtyone.com> Message-ID: I agree, I have an NC10 and it is awesome. It is not one of the cheaper ones, but on a positive note you can tell that it is better, ie construction quality etc, and the battery life is around 5 -6 hours of light use. It works out the box with the ubuntu remix edition, if that helps. Regards Stuart 2009/5/25 Andrew Williams > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:09:58PM +0100, Roger Gibson wrote: > > I've a birthday coming soon, and wondered whether folks think that the > > 'mini' lap top scene has stabilised, and if there is now a consensus on > > a short list of things to look at. I need something small enough to > > slip in a small brief case to take to meetings, easy to skip through > > multi-page documents on, decent battery life, not needed for much than > > (unfortunately) Windoze compatible documents, spreadsheets etc, web > > browse and email. But not as small as a blackberry type thing. > > Possibility of touch typing with 'narrow fingers' an advantage. I > > prefer it to be cheap enough not to get too upset if I lose/drop it. If > > Bill Gates has ensured that Windoze XP is the cheapest option, I'll take > > his money and dual boot, or over-install a Linux OS. > > > > Any favourites out there. Roger. > > I've been eyeing up a Samsung NC10 for a long time now, I've recommended > them to people > and all i've heard back is good words. At the moment i've got a EeePC 701, > dirty cheap > now but the screen is a little small for regular use. Maybe one of the new > 1000 series > would be a good pick if you want to go down the EeePC route. > > -- > Andrew Williams > w: http://tensixtyone.com/ > e: andy at tensixtyone.com > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkoarkMACgkQOYXUY+Bc/8BLIwCgiagdMddpfBw7EpTOp1caTd7D > ZFEAniuMIPecOkWQvK/sq+38kLtJjeoe > =W1WD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Mon May 25 15:57:50 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:57:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. In-Reply-To: References: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> <20090525144211.GB29029@manex.tensixtyone.com> Message-ID: I use the eeepc 904ha. It came with XP and is currently dual booted with vanilla Ubuntu 9.04 Everything works. No problems so far. It is similar spec to the 1000H, except for the 10.2 inch monitor is an 8.9 inch one instead. This trade off buys you about £50 off the price of the 1000H. Worth it. Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:53:59 +0100 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. I agree, I have an NC10 and it is awesome. It is not one of the cheaper ones, but on a positive note you can tell that it is better, ie construction quality etc, and the battery life is around 5 -6 hours of light use. It works out the box with the ubuntu remix edition, if that helps. Regards Stuart 2009/5/25 Andrew Williams On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:09:58PM +0100, Roger Gibson wrote: > I've a birthday coming soon, and wondered whether folks think that the > 'mini' lap top scene has stabilised, and if there is now a consensus on > a short list of things to look at. I need something small enough to > slip in a small brief case to take to meetings, easy to skip through > multi-page documents on, decent battery life, not needed for much than > (unfortunately) Windoze compatible documents, spreadsheets etc, web > browse and email. But not as small as a blackberry type thing. > Possibility of touch typing with 'narrow fingers' an advantage. I > prefer it to be cheap enough not to get too upset if I lose/drop it. If > Bill Gates has ensured that Windoze XP is the cheapest option, I'll take > his money and dual boot, or over-install a Linux OS. > > Any favourites out there. Roger. I've been eyeing up a Samsung NC10 for a long time now, I've recommended them to people and all i've heard back is good words. At the moment i've got a EeePC 701, dirty cheap now but the screen is a little small for regular use. Maybe one of the new 1000 series would be a good pick if you want to go down the EeePC route. -- Andrew Williams w: http://tensixtyone.com/ e: andy at tensixtyone.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoarkMACgkQOYXUY+Bc/8BLIwCgiagdMddpfBw7EpTOp1caTd7D ZFEAniuMIPecOkWQvK/sq+38kLtJjeoe =W1WD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at bleah.co.uk Mon May 25 12:24:23 2009 From: simon at bleah.co.uk (Simon Ward) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:24:23 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [SC.LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. In-Reply-To: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> References: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> Message-ID: <20090525122414.GB25598@whoosh.cosgrove.lan> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:09:58PM +0100, Roger Gibson wrote: > I've a birthday coming soon, and wondered whether folks think that the > 'mini' lap top scene has stabilised, I think there is certainly more to come. > and if there is now a consensus on a short list of things to look at. I can only speak for the Eee PC 900. If you’re going Eee, you’ll probably want the 901, although they have more in the pipeline. Sadly, they’re becoming hard to get with GNU/Linux out of the box, but you can guarantee that everything works on it (not all free software: although free wireless drivers are available, I haven’t yet got them working satisfactorily on my Eee). > I need something small enough to slip in a small brief case to take to meetings, I also have a Thinkpad X60s which fits into my normally cramped backpack. While I will take my Thinkpad with me on occasion, I normally just carry my Eee since it fits so easily. > easy to skip through multi-page documents on, decent battery life, not > needed for much than (unfortunately) Windoze compatible documents, > spreadsheets etc, web browse and email. Most things you would expect in a desktop environment run fine, including OpenOffice.org for your wordprocessing, spreadsheets, etc, web browser, email client. You may find 1024x600 screen resolution limiting for some things. > I prefer it to be cheap enough not to get too upset if I lose/drop it. At £230 you might not get too upset (I don’t know). The case seems reasonably durable, and moving part damage is reduced by it having SSDs for its storage. Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works.—John Gall -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From spyro at f2s.com Mon May 25 16:12:10 2009 From: spyro at f2s.com (Ian molton) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 16:12:10 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [SC.LUG] Recommended 'mini' laptop. In-Reply-To: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> References: <4A1A7C86.1000302@talktalk.net> Message-ID: <4A1AC34C.5040207@f2s.com> Im fairly happy with me eee 1000. it can be a bit sluggish, but thats the atom just being pants... the hp mininote is very nice (I helped a friend pick one out) but DONT buy it unless you enjoy proprietary drivers. the video performance is pathetic on the open drivers. The screen is not good quality (poor colour purity) however the resolution is great and the 1280x800 is *noticeably* nicer to use than 1024x600. I run debian on both these machines, and the mininotes VIA CPU is much better (and its battery life much smaller, mostly due to it having a miniscule battery). Astonishingly the mininote keyboard is very useable, despite its size and my big hands/fingers. My preference? The eee1000. but _purely_ because I can use 100% open drivers on it and because of its astonishing (for x86) battery life. The mininote would be a close second if it had open drivers, but the frankly _crap_ openchrome or via video drivers completely ruin a machine which (other than battery life) could have been an eee-killer. Also HP should be shot for providing a power-brick thats fully 1/3 the size of the laptop! WTF?! the eee power brick is tiny, but I rarely take it out of the house because the 4-8 hours (depending on load) that I get from it totally removes the need for me to take the charger with me. the Eee keyboard is a bit cheap and nasty - having removed it about 4 times, it now is not reliable and ffrequently double-enters my keypresses. I guess if you never disassemble the machine this would be a non-issue. Also dont expect the Eee bluetooth to be much use for long range (3-5m) EDR data (like to a bluetooth HiFi adapter) because its located beneath where your hands rest when typing which destroys the signal. I cut the antenna and soldered on a section of wifi card coax, which I threaded through the hinge into the screen area, and bared the last ~3cm of, which has much improved bluetooth reliability at that range. the nex generation of these mini laptops will be very exciting, as I expect we're going to start seeing more high-performance non-x86 compatible models dropping out of china / korea soon. -Ian From les.pritchard at gmail.com Tue May 26 21:37:50 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:37:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet Message-ID: Hi all, A quick reminder that it's that time of the month as our social is this Thursday evening at the Old King's Head from 7pm as normal. I'm hoping to be there, but as some of you know we're expecting a baby any day now (currently 6 days overdue!). So if I don't make it, have a good one! Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Les _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device From biglynchy at gmail.com Tue May 26 22:37:50 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:37:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, I didn't know. Congratulations Les, I think we can excuse you for that hehe :) Best wishes, I hope it all goes well! I'll be along on Thursday. After missing a couple of meetings I figured it was time I stopped slacking. I'll be there around 7:30, maybe 8, but I'll get there. See you all Thursday, Dan On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > A quick reminder that it's that time of the month as our social is this > Thursday evening at the Old King's Head from 7pm as normal. I'm hoping to > be there, but as some of you know we're expecting a baby any day now > (currently 6 days overdue!). So if I don't make it, have a good one! > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Wed May 27 16:11:10 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:11:10 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good luck with the baby, Les. I won't make it. My wife is in hospital atm, so I have to jump between visits and minding the kids when I can't get a babysitter. Paul Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:37:44 +0100 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet Hi all, A quick reminder that it's that time of the month as our social is this Thursday evening at the Old King's Head from 7pm as normal. I'm hoping to be there, but as some of you know we're expecting a baby any day now (currently 6 days overdue!). So if I don't make it, have a good one! Les _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Wed May 27 16:16:38 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:16:38 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hope your wife is out of hospital and on the mend soon Paul, best wishes Dan On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > Good luck with the baby, Les. > > I won't make it. My wife is in hospital atm, so I have to jump between > visits and minding the kids when I can't get a babysitter. > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:37:44 +0100 > From: les.pritchard at gmail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet > > Hi all, > > A quick reminder that it's that time of the month as our social is this > Thursday evening at the Old King's Head from 7pm as normal. I'm hoping to > be there, but as some of you know we're expecting a baby any day now > (currently 6 days overdue!). So if I don't make it, have a good one! > > Les > > ------------------------------ > " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. " Download Now > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe.foy at gmail.com Wed May 27 17:58:58 2009 From: joe.foy at gmail.com (Joe Foy) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:58:58 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll definately be there, not quite sure what time though, get back fairly late from work most nights. From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Wed May 27 20:06:35 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:06:35 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Dan. Me too. Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:16:31 +0100 From: biglynchy at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Social Meet Hope your wife is out of hospital and on the mend soon Paul, best wishes Dan On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Paul Williams wrote: Good luck with the baby, Les. I won't make it. My wife is in hospital atm, so I have to jump between visits and minding the kids when I can't get a babysitter. Paul Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:37:44 +0100 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Chester LUG] Social Meet Hi all, A quick reminder that it's that time of the month as our social is this Thursday evening at the Old King's Head from 7pm as normal. I'm hoping to be there, but as some of you know we're expecting a baby any day now (currently 6 days overdue!). So if I don't make it, have a good one! Les " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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