From lists at tdobson.net Mon Nov 2 22:35:32 2009 From: lists at tdobson.net (Tim Dobson) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:35:32 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Job: free software VoIP support engineer Message-ID: <4AEF5EA7.8070302@tdobson.net> I hate advertising anything to lists but the company I work for (DMC www.dmcip.com) is hiring and I think it's a really good opportunity if anyone is looking for work... :) -- DMC is looking for a part time Telecoms/Linux support engineer. If you've got a real passion for resolving tech-related problems, would enjoy dealing with something new everyday and have the patience to get to the bottom of challenging issues, then this might be for you. You'll be involved in providing email and telephone support, working with our customers and liasing with upstream suppliers to apply changes, troubleshoot problems and answer technical questions. What's required: Good written and oral communication skills Good customer service attitude GNU/Linux experience What's helpful: Evidence of enthusiasm for learning and playing with technology Good understanding of networks Asterisk or SIP experience Passion for free software/open source technologies Training and mentoring will be provided. You'll learn: VoIP Telecoms Asterisk Networking GNU/Linux Let us know which pieces of the jigsaw you can already put together and why you think you'd be a great addition to the DMC team. We'll offer a competitive salary, an informal working environment (no suits required) and flexible working hours at our office in Manchester City Centre. If you're interested, please get in touch with careers at dmcip.com DMC are an equal opportunities employer. www.dmcip.com www.servicesforasterisk.co.uk From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Mon Nov 2 22:40:28 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:40:28 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Job: free software VoIP support engineer In-Reply-To: <4AEF5EA7.8070302@tdobson.net> References: <4AEF5EA7.8070302@tdobson.net> Message-ID: interested... will look into this more in the morning... Thanks Paul > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:35:19 +0000 > From: lists at tdobson.net > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Chester LUG] Job: free software VoIP support engineer > > I hate advertising anything to lists but the company I work for (DMC > www.dmcip.com) is hiring and I think it's a really good opportunity if > anyone is looking for work... :) > > -- > > DMC is looking for a part time Telecoms/Linux support engineer. > > If you've got a real passion for resolving tech-related problems, would > enjoy dealing with something new everyday and have the patience to get > to the bottom of challenging issues, then this might be for you. > > You'll be involved in providing email and telephone support, working > with our customers and liasing with upstream suppliers to apply changes, > troubleshoot problems and answer technical questions. > > What's required: > Good written and oral communication skills > Good customer service attitude > GNU/Linux experience > > What's helpful: > Evidence of enthusiasm for learning and playing with technology > Good understanding of networks > Asterisk or SIP experience > Passion for free software/open source technologies > > Training and mentoring will be provided. > > You'll learn: > VoIP > Telecoms > Asterisk > Networking > GNU/Linux > > Let us know which pieces of the jigsaw you can already put together and > why you think you'd be a great addition to the DMC team. > > We'll offer a competitive salary, an informal working environment (no > suits required) and flexible working hours at our office in Manchester > City Centre. > > If you're interested, please get in touch with careers at dmcip.com > > DMC are an equal opportunities employer. > > www.dmcip.com > www.servicesforasterisk.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger onto your mobile for free http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Stuart 2009/11/2 Tim Dobson > I hate advertising anything to lists but the company I work for (DMC > www.dmcip.com) is hiring and I think it's a really good opportunity if > anyone is looking for work... :) > > -- > > DMC is looking for a part time Telecoms/Linux support engineer. > > If you've got a real passion for resolving tech-related problems, would > enjoy dealing with something new everyday and have the patience to get > to the bottom of challenging issues, then this might be for you. > > You'll be involved in providing email and telephone support, working > with our customers and liasing with upstream suppliers to apply changes, > troubleshoot problems and answer technical questions. > > What's required: > Good written and oral communication skills > Good customer service attitude > GNU/Linux experience > > What's helpful: > Evidence of enthusiasm for learning and playing with technology > Good understanding of networks > Asterisk or SIP experience > Passion for free software/open source technologies > > Training and mentoring will be provided. > > You'll learn: > VoIP > Telecoms > Asterisk > Networking > GNU/Linux > > Let us know which pieces of the jigsaw you can already put together and > why you think you'd be a great addition to the DMC team. > > We'll offer a competitive salary, an informal working environment (no > suits required) and flexible working hours at our office in Manchester > City Centre. > > If you're interested, please get in touch with careers at dmcip.com > > DMC are an equal opportunities employer. > > www.dmcip.com > www.servicesforasterisk.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at googlemail.com Mon Nov 2 23:17:02 2009 From: mrcrilly at googlemail.com (mrcrilly at googlemail.com) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:17:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Job: free software VoIP support engineer In-Reply-To: References: <4AEF5EA7.8070302@tdobson.net> Message-ID: <1643852922-1257203799-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1384392208-@bda135.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> I've got a feeling I'll go for this. I think it's in Manchester city centre. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Burns Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:14:12 To: Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Job: free software VoIP support engineer _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From lists at tdobson.net Mon Nov 2 23:56:29 2009 From: lists at tdobson.net (Tim Dobson) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:56:29 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Job: free software VoIP support engineer In-Reply-To: <1643852922-1257203799-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1384392208-@bda135.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> References: <4AEF5EA7.8070302@tdobson.net> <1643852922-1257203799-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1384392208-@bda135.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4AEF7199.30305@tdobson.net> mrcrilly at googlemail.com wrote: > I've got a feeling I'll go for this. I think it's in Manchester city centre. Yep. Manchester city centre. It's not great I know, but it's ~7 minutes walk from the station once you get used to it so it could be much worse. :) From andy at tensixtyone.com Tue Nov 3 11:03:31 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:03:31 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Reminder: Liverpool Linux User Group Meeting - 4th Nov 2009 Message-ID: <20091103110330.GA19890@manex.tensixtyone.com> Reminder mail, the event is tomorrow. --- Date Wed November 4th, 2009 from 7:00pm - 8:00pm Location: Liverpool Social Centre, 96 Bold Street, Liverpool, England L1 4HY Speaker: Simon Johnson, and Andrew Williams Liverpool Linux User Group are a group of Linux and open source software users that meet on the first Wednesday of the month. If no talk is organised then we will usually organise a “open stage” for people to discuss projects, current news, or just to rant. Main Talk This month, depending on the time, we may have two talks. Simon Johnson will be giving his flying talk on building computers from scratch, from the logic gates upwards. In addition, Andrew Williams will be giving a quick talk on contributing to open source projects, what are the pitfalls and why even non-programmers should give their time to a project. Open Stage As per usual, time will be allocated to the end of the talk for anyone to give a five minute talk on any subject. If you want some time just drop me a mail or grab me on the day. Doors are usually open before 7:00pm if people want to meet up in the centre, The Liverpool Social Centre is two doors up from Forbidden Planet and is the right-hand door at the front of “News From Nowhere”. Check the window for a handy Liverpool LUG sign, which will indicate we are there and not still at the pub. Press the white doorbell for access (the one marked basement) and someone will come up and open the door for you. This month we're sharing the location with a book group, so be aware if someone strange opens the door for you. Ask for the Linux group and you should be OK. After any talks are finished will usually stay in the meeting area until 8:00pm then head out to a local pub, The pub varies from month to month and usually depends on the size of the crowd. If you arrive late and unsure of where we are then give one of the contacts a ring. Website: http://livlug.org.uk/ Meeting Details: http://livlug.org.uk/meetings:2009_november Upcoming: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4809847 Geekery.in: http://www.geekery.in/liverpool/events/2009/11/04/liverpool-linux-user-group-meeting From iamseawolf at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 22:54:45 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:54:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Netbook Suggestions Message-ID: <200911032254.54588.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Hi All -- (and the admins that had to approve this email) Following Wrexham LUGs meet earlier s'evening and being the only one out of the half dozen or so there that didn't have a n*book, I've decided to put my money where my boredom is. Has any one any suggestions/recommendations for a Linux-friendly netbook? I'm looking at sub-£300 and have seen a 10" MSI Wind for <£275 delivered. Has anyone had any good or bad experiences with this model? For the stats freaks, it has an Atom N270 @ 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM, 160GB SATA, Intel 945GSE graphics, wired + wireless, bluetooth, webcam, card reader & a case, in the box. A couple of other points: -- I've seen the post a little while ago on LivLugList (has a ring to it!) recommending the Eee 9's, but agree the keyboards are a bit wee; I'm against Dell out of principle that their desktops are pants and, as noted at WrxLUG: Bombay. -- I'm not fussy distro-wise as hopefully it'll give me a chance to hop about a bit! Might even try to get a refund on whatever OS it happens to come with it :) Go ahead punks, make my Christmas Day... Cheers Ben -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From les at chesterlug.org.uk Tue Nov 3 23:57:18 2009 From: les at chesterlug.org.uk (Les Pritchard) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:57:18 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [WLUG_Relay] Netbook Suggestions In-Reply-To: <200911032254.54588.iamseawolf@gmail.com> References: <200911032254.54588.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ben, Another one to throw into the pot is the Toshiba NB200. The battery life is very good and it works well with Ubuntu. The keyboard is nice to use, much easier for my larger hands than the Asus 901 I used before it. I think it's very similar spec to the one you've mentioned and I have no idea which is better, but you're welcome to have a go with mine for comparison. Les 2009/11/3 Ben Arnold > Hi All -- (and the admins that had to approve this email) > > Following Wrexham LUGs meet earlier s'evening and being the only one out of > the half dozen or so there that didn't have a n*book, I've decided to put > my > money where my boredom is. > > Has any one any suggestions/recommendations for a Linux-friendly netbook? > I'm > looking at sub-£300 and have seen a 10" MSI Wind for <£275 delivered. Has > anyone had any good or bad experiences with this model? For the stats > freaks, > it has an Atom N270 @ 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM, 160GB SATA, Intel 945GSE graphics, > wired + wireless, bluetooth, webcam, card reader & a case, in the box. > > A couple of other points: > -- I've seen the post a little while ago on LivLugList (has a ring to > it!) > recommending the Eee 9's, but agree the keyboards are a bit wee; I'm > against > Dell out of principle that their desktops are pants and, as noted at > WrxLUG: > Bombay. > -- I'm not fussy distro-wise as hopefully it'll give me a chance to hop > about a bit! Might even try to get a refund on whatever OS it happens to > come > with it :) > > Go ahead punks, make my Christmas Day... > > Cheers > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > Relay mailing list > Relay at wrexham-lug.org > http://wrexham-lug.org/mailman/listinfo/relay_wrexham-lug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paul > From: iamseawolf at gmail.com > To: relay at wrexham-lug.org; chester at mailman.lug.org.uk; liverpool at mailman.lug.org.uk > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:54:52 +0000 > Subject: [Chester LUG] Netbook Suggestions > > Hi All -- (and the admins that had to approve this email) > > Following Wrexham LUGs meet earlier s'evening and being the only one out of > the half dozen or so there that didn't have a n*book, I've decided to put my > money where my boredom is. > > Has any one any suggestions/recommendations for a Linux-friendly netbook? I'm > looking at sub-£300 and have seen a 10" MSI Wind for <£275 delivered. Has > anyone had any good or bad experiences with this model? For the stats freaks, > it has an Atom N270 @ 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM, 160GB SATA, Intel 945GSE graphics, > wired + wireless, bluetooth, webcam, card reader & a case, in the box. > > A couple of other points: > -- I've seen the post a little while ago on LivLugList (has a ring to it!) > recommending the Eee 9's, but agree the keyboards are a bit wee; I'm against > Dell out of principle that their desktops are pants and, as noted at WrxLUG: > Bombay. > -- I'm not fussy distro-wise as hopefully it'll give me a chance to hop > about a bit! Might even try to get a refund on whatever OS it happens to come > with it :) > > Go ahead punks, make my Christmas Day... > > Cheers > Ben _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Because of the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of mouse balls should only be attempted by properly trained personnel. Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the underside of the mouse. Domestic balls will be larger and harder than foreign balls. Ball removal procedures differ depending upon the manufacturer of the mouse. Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop off method. Domestic balls are replaced by using the twist off method. Mouse balls are not usually static sensitive. However, excessive handling can result in sudden discharge. Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse may be used immediately. It is recommended that each person have a pair of spare balls for maintaining optimum customer satisfaction. Any customer missing his balls should contact the local personnel in charge of removing and replacing these necessary items. 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It went to all field engineers about a computer peripheral problem. The author of this memo was quite genuine. The engineers rolled on the floor! "If a mouse fails to operate or should it perform erratically, it may need a ball replacement. Mouse balls are now available as FRU (Field Replacement Units). Because of the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of mouse balls should only be attempted by properly trained personnel. Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the underside of the mouse. Domestic balls will be larger and harder than foreign balls. Ball removal procedures differ depending upon the manufacturer of the mouse. Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop off method. Domestic balls are replaced by using the twist off method. Mouse balls are not usually static sensitive. However, excessive handling can result in sudden discharge. Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse may be used immediately. It is recommended that each person have a pair of spare balls for maintaining optimum customer satisfaction. Any customer missing his balls should contact the local personnel in charge of removing and replacing these necessary items. Please keep in mind that a customer without properly working balls is an unhappy customer. _________________________________________________________________ Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iamseawolf at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 14:44:02 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:44:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Netbook Suggestions In-Reply-To: <200911032254.54588.iamseawolf@gmail.com> References: <200911032254.54588.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200911081444.04614.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Hi All -- Thanks for the advice & suggestions, they were much appreciated. Nipped in to Currys or whatever and tried a few out and it is a bloody close call. It seems that each one has had some niggle with Linux (function buttons, a particular distro not liking wireless but another does etc.) so I've gone down to gut feeling. - Agree that the Asus keyboards are too fiddly & with Paul that the extra inch on the screen and thus chassis, keyboard makes a big difference. (No jokes please.) - Les, haven't seen the Tosh with a good enough price tag tbh. With them all being damn close it's the only thing going against it from the looks of it! - Phil, something just wasn't right with the Mini 10, wasn't feeling it. Not a great deal either. Thanks for the text though, appreciated. - A few of the LivLUG bunch recommend an NC10. The keyboard was very usable but the mouse-pad was a bit wee. Must admit I've had recommendations of these for a while now. - I've done a little looking and found a Samsung N130, a couple of models up from the more popular NC10. 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I am on the hunt for a Netbook myself :-) Regards, Thomas. 2009/11/8 Ben Arnold > Hi All -- > > Thanks for the advice & suggestions, they were much appreciated. > Nipped in to Currys or whatever and tried a few out and it is a bloody > close > call. It seems that each one has had some niggle with Linux (function > buttons, > a particular distro not liking wireless but another does etc.) so I've gone > down to gut feeling. > > - Agree that the Asus keyboards are too fiddly & with Paul that the extra > inch > on the screen and thus chassis, keyboard makes a big difference. (No jokes > please.) > - Les, haven't seen the Tosh with a good enough price tag tbh. With them > all > being damn close it's the only thing going against it from the looks of it! > - Phil, something just wasn't right with the Mini 10, wasn't feeling it. > Not > a great deal either. Thanks for the text though, appreciated. > - A few of the LivLUG bunch recommend an NC10. The keyboard was very > usable > but the mouse-pad was a bit wee. Must admit I've had recommendations of > these > for a while now. > - I've done a little looking and found a Samsung N130, a couple of models > up > from the more popular NC10. The mouse-pad is improved, 6-cell battery and a > few bits and pieces are one step up than others. To top it, £230 delivered: > I > can't really fault it. > > Cheers, > Ben :) > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It seems that each one has had some niggle with Linux (function buttons, a particular distro not liking wireless but another does etc.) so I've gone down to gut feeling. - Agree that the Asus keyboards are too fiddly & with Paul that the extra inch on the screen and thus chassis, keyboard makes a big difference. (No jokes please.) - Les, haven't seen the Tosh with a good enough price tag tbh. With them all being damn close it's the only thing going against it from the looks of it! - Phil, something just wasn't right with the Mini 10, wasn't feeling it. Not a great deal either. Thanks for the text though, appreciated. - A few of the LivLUG bunch recommend an NC10. The keyboard was very usable but the mouse-pad was a bit wee. Must admit I've had recommendations of these for a while now. - I've done a little looking and found a Samsung N130, a couple of models up from the more popular NC10. The mouse-pad is improved, 6-cell battery and a few bits and pieces are one step up than others. To top it, £230 delivered: I can't really fault it. Cheers, Ben :) _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk Mon Nov 9 13:38:07 2009 From: thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk (Thomas Prophett) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:38:07 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Netbook Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <200911032254.54588.iamseawolf@gmail.com> <200911081444.04614.iamseawolf@gmail.com> <1143609f0911090122l285550eeu3db37a1ec43364f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1143609f0911090538q74056f15k49f5e2facf3f15f0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, After some investigation myself with the Samsung N130 I've just purchased a black N130 & a external DVD drive. Ben, don't forget to claim the £20 samsung cash back before december. Regards, Thomas. 2009/11/9 Paul Williams > Sounds like a bargain. What distro are you putting on it? > > paul > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:22:50 +0000 > From: thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Netbook Suggestions > > > Hi, > > Please let us know how you get on with the Samsung N130. I am on the hunt > for a Netbook myself :-) > > Regards, > Thomas. > > 2009/11/8 Ben Arnold > > Hi All -- > > Thanks for the advice & suggestions, they were much appreciated. > Nipped in to Currys or whatever and tried a few out and it is a bloody > close > call. It seems that each one has had some niggle with Linux (function > buttons, > a particular distro not liking wireless but another does etc.) so I've gone > down to gut feeling. > > - Agree that the Asus keyboards are too fiddly & with Paul that the extra > inch > on the screen and thus chassis, keyboard makes a big difference. (No jokes > please.) > - Les, haven't seen the Tosh with a good enough price tag tbh. With them > all > being damn close it's the only thing going against it from the looks of it! > - Phil, something just wasn't right with the Mini 10, wasn't feeling it. > Not > a great deal either. Thanks for the text though, appreciated. > - A few of the LivLUG bunch recommend an NC10. The keyboard was very > usable > but the mouse-pad was a bit wee. Must admit I've had recommendations of > these > for a while now. > - I've done a little looking and found a Samsung N130, a couple of models > up > from the more popular NC10. The mouse-pad is improved, 6-cell battery and a > few bits and pieces are one step up than others. To top it, £230 delivered: > I > can't really fault it. > > Cheers, > Ben :) > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > ------------------------------ > New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Tue Nov 10 11:02:25 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:02:25 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Are redhat taking the proverbial. Message-ID: <200911101102.19414.dh@iucr.org> "RED HAT ENTERPRISE VIRTUALIZATION MANAGER FOR SERVERS" SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS Server : Microsoft Windows Sever 2003 SP2 (x86) Client : Internet Explorer 6 and later .NET 3.5sp1 Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows Server 2003 or 2008 WTF! Dave. From andy at tensixtyone.com Tue Nov 10 11:26:24 2009 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:24 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Are redhat taking the proverbial. In-Reply-To: <200911101102.19414.dh@iucr.org> References: <200911101102.19414.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: <20091110112622.GA26911@manex.tensixtyone.com> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:02:19AM +0000, David Holden wrote: > Server : Microsoft Windows Sever 2003 SP2 (x86) > Client : Internet Explorer 6 and later > .NET 3.5sp1 > Microsoft Windows XP > Microsoft Windows Server 2003 or 2008 IIRC RHEVM was bought in from another company with the idea to port it over to Linux sometime "soon". -- Andrew Williams w: http://tensixtyone.com/ e: andy (at) tensixtyone.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From dh at iucr.org Tue Nov 10 15:44:33 2009 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:44:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Are redhat taking the proverbial. In-Reply-To: <20091110112622.GA26911@manex.tensixtyone.com> References: <200911101102.19414.dh@iucr.org> <20091110112622.GA26911@manex.tensixtyone.com> Message-ID: <200911101544.24878.dh@iucr.org> On Tuesday 10 November 2009 11:26:22 Andrew Williams wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:02:19AM +0000, David Holden wrote: > > Server : Microsoft Windows Sever 2003 SP2 (x86) > > Client : Internet Explorer 6 and later > > .NET 3.5sp1 > > Microsoft Windows XP > > Microsoft Windows Server 2003 or 2008 > > IIRC RHEVM was bought in from another company with the idea to port it over > to Linux sometime "soon". > Pretty pathetic though, not only are they quoting prices that don't include buying the windows license they're now selling proprietary software. From biglynchy at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 17:51:30 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:51:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Are redhat taking the proverbial. In-Reply-To: <200911101544.24878.dh@iucr.org> References: <200911101102.19414.dh@iucr.org> <20091110112622.GA26911@manex.tensixtyone.com> <200911101544.24878.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, David Holden wrote: > On Tuesday 10 November 2009 11:26:22 Andrew Williams wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:02:19AM +0000, David Holden wrote: > > > Server : Microsoft Windows Sever 2003 SP2 (x86) > > > Client : Internet Explorer 6 and later > > > .NET 3.5sp1 > > > Microsoft Windows XP > > > Microsoft Windows Server 2003 or 2008 > > > > IIRC RHEVM was bought in from another company with the idea to port it > over > > to Linux sometime "soon". > > > > Pretty pathetic though, not only are they quoting prices that don't include > buying the windows license they're now selling proprietary software. > I agree, that's pretty shocking for one of the worlds biggest Linux vendors. Even more so when you consider how much time and money they spend campaigning against Microsoft in the European Parliament. They keep it quiet that they're actually pushing Microsoft products themselves. I suppose at least Novell slap you in the face with their MS promotion deals. I understand business is business and if Red Hat can make money by selling products that require Windows they will. I just wish they were a little more up front and honest about it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 21:46:47 2009 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:46:47 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] RHCE worth it ? Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I am just sharing this with you to get your view on RHCE cert. I am lucky ( and I do realise that ) that my company is prepared to pay for my RHCE, or at least RHCT. 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There is less than 1 page of them! > > I thought Linux was a growth area. It seems not in RHCE terms anyhow. > > Any thoughts/experience ? > > Stu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryn.salisbury at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 23:00:37 2009 From: bryn.salisbury at gmail.com (Bryn Salisbury) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:00:37 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] RHCE worth it ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/11/11 Michael Crilly : > It's free training, why not? Don't decline free knowledge and experience; > you never know when it will benefit you. > I agree... the more strings you can add to your bow without having to spend your own money, the better. B From thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk Thu Nov 12 08:46:27 2009 From: thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk (Thomas Prophett) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:46:27 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] RHCE worth it ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1143609f0911120046q317c2ce8jf1bc15f2d0cb512@mail.gmail.com> Completely agree with Michael & Bryn. Go for it. You might gain something that may later benefit you. 2009/11/11 Bryn Salisbury > 2009/11/11 Michael Crilly : > > It's free training, why not? Don't decline free knowledge and experience; > > you never know when it will benefit you. > > > > I agree... the more strings you can add to your bow without having to > spend your own money, the better. > > B > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paul Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:21:51 +0000 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social Hi all, Quick reminder that the next LUG social is tomorrow night from 7pm in the Old King's Head as normal. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it as I'm suffering with a nasty old virus. Have fun and I'll see you all at a pre-Christmas gathering no doubt! Les _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 16:06:01 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:06:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just realised it's the last Thursday in November tomorrow and I was about to ask if there was a meet up. I've missed a couple recently I know but I'm planning to be there tomorrow. Hope you feel a bit better soon as well Les, it's that time of year again. Lots of people I know complaining of colds. Hope it doesn't linger long. See you tomorrow night :) Dan On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > Thought we couldn't get those! lol. > > Get yourelf well. > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:21:51 +0000 > From: les.pritchard at gmail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social > > > Hi all, > > Quick reminder that the next LUG social is tomorrow night from 7pm in the > Old King's Head as normal. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it as I'm > suffering with a nasty old virus. > > Have fun and I'll see you all at a pre-Christmas gathering no doubt! > > Les > > ------------------------------ > View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe.foy at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 21:50:17 2009 From: joe.foy at gmail.com (Joe Foy) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:50:17 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm going to be too busy to make it this month, but I do have a question. Someone has asked me to put a bigger hard-drive in their PC, but they want it to be the one with the operating system on, so my question is which free software cloning tools will allow me to clone and resize a partition the easiest? From mrcrilly at googlemail.com Wed Nov 25 22:22:57 2009 From: mrcrilly at googlemail.com (mrcrilly at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:22:57 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social Message-ID: <1326087387-1259187763-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1658791075-@bda141.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> I wonder if dd can do that, Joe? I might not be attending neither. ------Original Message------ From: Joe Foy Sender: chester-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk ReplyTo: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] LUG Social Sent: 25 Nov 2009 21:50 I'm going to be too busy to make it this month, but I do have a question. Someone has asked me to put a bigger hard-drive in their PC, but they want it to be the one with the operating system on, so my question is which free software cloning tools will allow me to clone and resize a partition the easiest? _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device From biglynchy at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 22:58:47 2009 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:58:47 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Joe Foy wrote: > I'm going to be too busy to make it this month, but I do have a > question. Someone has asked me to put a bigger hard-drive in their PC, > but they want it to be the one with the operating system on, so my > question is which free software cloning tools will allow me to clone > and resize a partition the easiest? > > Hi Joe, I like Clonzilla for these sorts of jobs myself. The LiveCD usually does the trick. It basically uses dd and other Unix tools in the background, as Michael suggested. It may be a bit more user friendly though, the interface is pretty good. I know it will clone and move images between drives or partitions of different sizes no problem, provided there's room on the target location of course. http://clonezilla.org/ That would be my suggestion, but perhaps someone else knows of something better. I wouldn't claim to be an expert. Good luck with it! Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This talk introduces the block device (the abstraction that most filesystems expect to consume), and two useful ways of creating them. Tom will explain how devices can be combined for performance and redundancy, including a discussion of the performance characteristics of RAID 0, 10, 5 and 6, a good rule of thumb for provisioning storage, how linux does it, RAIDs failings (and how smart hardware tries to avoids them). Tom will also explain how LVM works, go though some examples (including mirroring and striping and using it for KVM disks). He will try to also talk about network block protocols like iSCSI and AoE, Distributed Replicated Block Device and the Network Block Device. In the new year (or the pub) Tom will be talking about how the ZFS/btrfs filesystems collapse the stack and do something like what RAID/LVM do by (depending on your view) telescoping some complexity or rampantly violating layers. Open Stage As per usual, time will be allocated to the end of the talk for anyone to give a five minute talk on any subject. If you want some time just drop me a mail or grab me on the day. Doors are usually open before 7:00pm if people want to meet up in the centre, The Liverpool Social Centre is two doors up from Forbidden Planet and is the right-hand door at the front of “News From Nowhere”. Check the window for a handy Liverpool LUG sign, which will indicate we are there and not still at the pub. Press the white doorbell for access (the one marked basement) and someone will come up and open the door for you. Be aware that we also share the LSC with a book group, so when someone answers the door just ask for the Linux User Group in the basement and you should be OK. Accordingly, the centre is having issues with the doorbell so if no one answers give one of the contacts a call to let you in, the number will be posted on the poster in the window. After any talks are finished will usually stay in the meeting area until 8:00pm then head out to a local pub, The pub varies from month to month and usually depends on the size of the crowd. If you arrive late and unsure of where we are then give one of the contacts a ring. Website: http://livlug.org.uk/ Meeting Details: http://livlug.org.uk/meetings:2009_december Upcoming.org: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4878734 Geekery.in: http://www.geekery.in/liverpool/events/2009/12/02/liverpool-linux-user-group-meeting From iamseawolf at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 15:15:50 2009 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:15:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200911261515.27398.iamseawolf@gmail.com> I'll poke my head round the door an hour or two in, got something else on but can never turn down a geek's night out (if you can call it that, at least it's 'out' of a server room). Get well soon, Les. Ben On Wednesday 25 November 2009 14:21:51 Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > Quick reminder that the next LUG social is tomorrow night from 7pm in the > Old King's Head as normal. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it as I'm > suffering with a nasty old virus. > > Have fun and I'll see you all at a pre-Christmas gathering no doubt! > > Les > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From paul.sinclair at which.net Thu Nov 26 17:46:03 2009 From: paul.sinclair at which.net (Paul Sinclair) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:46:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0EBEC9.5070702@which.net> GParted will partition discs. Paul Joe Foy wrote: > I'm going to be too busy to make it this month, but I do have a > question. Someone has asked me to put a bigger hard-drive in their PC, > but they want it to be the one with the operating system on, so my > question is which free software cloning tools will allow me to clone > and resize a partition the easiest? > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk Thu Nov 26 22:39:17 2009 From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:39:17 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Requested links Message-ID: OK, you guys asked for them. Here they are... Frank Kelly's Twelve Days of Christmas (FK was Father Jack in Father Ted!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkF7fpw-wI Complaint letter the Virgin Airlines: http://blog.mrandmrssmith.com/2009/01/oli-beale-branson-complaint-letter-virgin-atlantic-mumbai-heathrow/ Also worth a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 Cheers. 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Here they are... > > > Frank Kelly's Twelve Days of Christmas (FK was Father Jack in Father Ted!): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkF7fpw-wI > > Complaint letter the Virgin Airlines: > > > http://blog.mrandmrssmith.com/2009/01/oli-beale-branson-complaint-letter-virgin-atlantic-mumbai-heathrow/ > > Also worth a look: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 > > > Cheers. > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access > both. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not sure if that will bother you. As we said last night the iRiver and Cowon players are also good options. Good luck with the search! Dan On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dan Lynch wrote: > Thanks for the links Paul > > Dan > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > >> OK, you guys asked for them. Here they are... >> >> >> Frank Kelly's Twelve Days of Christmas (FK was Father Jack in Father >> Ted!): >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkF7fpw-wI >> >> Complaint letter the Virgin Airlines: >> >> >> http://blog.mrandmrssmith.com/2009/01/oli-beale-branson-complaint-letter-virgin-atlantic-mumbai-heathrow/ >> >> Also worth a look: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 >> >> >> Cheers. >> >> Paul >> >> ------------------------------ >> Have more than one Hotmail account? 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Loads of people I've talked to swear by the Sansa Clip. Here's a link to the 2gb one on Amazon - http://is.gd/54Byb It's not a USB stick design so I must have confused it with something else in my excuse for a memory. They do 2, 4 and 8gb models. That 2gb one is about £30 but the 8gb is only £43, so you might want to spend the extra tenner and get a lot more space. It's up to you. The only slight complaint I've seen is that if you don't want to use a computer or other USB device to charge them, you have to buy the mains adapter separate for £6.99. Not sure if that will bother you. As we said last night the iRiver and Cowon players are also good options. Good luck with the search! Dan On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dan Lynch wrote: Thanks for the links Paul Dan On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Paul Williams wrote: OK, you guys asked for them. Here they are... Frank Kelly's Twelve Days of Christmas (FK was Father Jack in Father Ted!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkF7fpw-wI Complaint letter the Virgin Airlines: http://blog.mrandmrssmith.com/2009/01/oli-beale-branson-complaint-letter-virgin-atlantic-mumbai-heathrow/ Also worth a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 Cheers. Paul Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Am I right in thinking they work across the house's phase and not just a circuit within it? Your experiences good or bad will be appreciated! Thanks Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcgibson at talktalk.net Sun Nov 29 19:36:36 2009 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:36:36 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Ethernet over power In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B12CD3C.3050203@talktalk.net> Hi Les, Glad you are improving. Re signalling over the mains, I do it. Bear in mind my internet at the end of a few miles of damp string telephone line rarely gets up to 1Mbps, so I don't ask a lot. However, with a long straggly house with thick stone walls, a wireless router was not really man enough for the job, so to connect Maire's office to mine at opposite ends of the house I bought a Belkin Powerline AV Networking Adapter (200 Mbps) for about £55 a year ago. It has two 13A plug units which I plugged in and it worked without any setting up. I have a wireless router at each end which each looks after things locally, wireless to laptops, hard wired to PC and printserver etc. Electrically, the rooms are on very different circuits. It advised not connecting through my Belkin Surgemaster, but I forget now whether I tried this or not. We get fairly frequent power cuts, but it seems to cope. I shall be away for a week over the New Year if you want to borrow it to try. On a different tack, I had problems recently with a dual boot laptop having it's Windows 7 system, which had been given to a charity I work with for nothing by MS, and I had been running successfully and legally for a couple of months or more, which suddenly started saying the system was invalid, possibly pirated, and that I should reactivate it. I followed the instructions to do this, but it would not reactivate, and told me to ring someone at MS on a UK 0800 number. This I did, and the person who answered quickly said it was too technical for him, and when could he get a colleague to call. I stated a time, and on the dot a very helpful chappie from MS in New Delhi rang, understood the problem straight away, and asked me to try a few things. He was not fazed by my using Firefox, 'it has a lot of good features we must try to copy' , but confessed himself puzzled by the error message. He asked to take over my system, and I watched him looking at a host of registries without changing anything, all the time telling me clearly what he was doing and why. He then said, this is very puzzling, he would have to think about it and consult his colleagues. Then he said, 'it has fixed itself', and sure enough the error message had gone. He did a few more tests, confessed to still being very puzzled, 'but then funny things do happen, but not so often as with Vista. That was a terrible system'. He then promised to ring me in a week, at a time of my choosing, to check it was still OK. He was so informative and polite. Never once was it suggested I had done anything wrong. Dual booting was a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I've got his personal email address, so if ever I want help again, I'll try him. I was so surprised to get polite helpful common sense from MS, I thought I would share this. Last Thursday in December is New Year's Eve, second last is Christmas Eve, any plans for a December meeting! Roger. Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > I hope you had a good time at the social. I'm now slowy on the mend so will > see you all soon. > > I have a question about these ethernet over power systems that are around. I > know they've been mentioned before at the LUG, has anyone got any experience > of using them? I'm hopefully moving house in the near future and really > can't face cabling CAT5 to all the rooms again. I know that's not the techie > way, but for now I don't want to go round chipping out perfectly good walls > as I spent enough time doing that in the current house! So I figured that > these solutions could be a way of getting net access / video streaming to > the rooms. I could go with a wireless bridge, but I'm assuming that the > 200meg powerline systems should give me a better throughput, even if it > isn't really 200meg. > > Am I right in thinking they work across the house's phase and not just a > circuit within it? > > Your experiences good or bad will be appreciated! > > Thanks > > Les > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 21:51:55 2009 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:51:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Ethernet over power In-Reply-To: <4B12CD3C.3050203@talktalk.net> References: <4B12CD3C.3050203@talktalk.net> Message-ID: Hi Roger, Thanks for that, I'll let you know if I'm in a position to test them over the New Year. Interesting story about Microsoft, I think they're really having to push the customer service with Windows 7. Them having a more positive helpful attitude can only help the industry as a whole. I like his comments about Vista, I'm waiting for them to say "Ok, like Highlander 2 - let's pretend Vista never happened". 2009/11/29 Roger Gibson > Hi Les, Glad you are improving. > > Re signalling over the mains, I do it. Bear in mind my internet at the > end of a few miles of damp string telephone line rarely gets up to > 1Mbps, so I don't ask a lot. However, with a long straggly house with > thick stone walls, a wireless router was not really man enough for the > job, so to connect Maire's office to mine at opposite ends of the house > I bought a > > Belkin Powerline AV Networking Adapter (200 Mbps) > > for about £55 a year ago. It has two 13A plug units which I plugged in > and it worked without any setting up. I have a wireless router at each > end which each looks after things locally, wireless to laptops, hard > wired to PC and printserver etc. Electrically, the rooms are on very > different circuits. It advised not connecting through my Belkin > Surgemaster, but I forget now whether I tried this or not. We get > fairly frequent power cuts, but it seems to cope. > > I shall be away for a week over the New Year if you want to borrow it to > try. > > On a different tack, I had problems recently with a dual boot laptop > having it's Windows 7 system, which had been given to a charity I work > with for nothing by MS, and I had been running successfully and legally > for a couple of months or more, which suddenly started saying the system > was invalid, possibly pirated, and that I should reactivate it. I > followed the instructions to do this, but it would not reactivate, and > told me to ring someone at MS on a UK 0800 number. This I did, and the > person who answered quickly said it was too technical for him, and when > could he get a colleague to call. I stated a time, and on the dot a > very helpful chappie from MS in New Delhi rang, understood the problem > straight away, and asked me to try a few things. He was not fazed by my > using Firefox, 'it has a lot of good features we must try to copy' , but > confessed himself puzzled by the error message. He asked to take over > my system, and I watched him looking at a host of registries without > changing anything, all the time telling me clearly what he was doing and > why. He then said, this is very puzzling, he would have to think about > it and consult his colleagues. Then he said, 'it has fixed itself', and > sure enough the error message had gone. He did a few more tests, > confessed to still being very puzzled, 'but then funny things do happen, > but not so often as with Vista. That was a terrible system'. He then > promised to ring me in a week, at a time of my choosing, to check it was > still OK. He was so informative and polite. Never once was it > suggested I had done anything wrong. Dual booting was a perfectly > reasonable thing to do. I've got his personal email address, so if ever > I want help again, I'll try him. I was so surprised to get polite > helpful common sense from MS, I thought I would share this. > > Last Thursday in December is New Year's Eve, second last is Christmas > Eve, any plans for a December meeting! > Roger. > > Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I hope you had a good time at the social. I'm now slowy on the mend so > will > > see you all soon. > > > > I have a question about these ethernet over power systems that are > around. I > > know they've been mentioned before at the LUG, has anyone got any > experience > > of using them? I'm hopefully moving house in the near future and really > > can't face cabling CAT5 to all the rooms again. I know that's not the > techie > > way, but for now I don't want to go round chipping out perfectly good > walls > > as I spent enough time doing that in the current house! So I figured > that > > these solutions could be a way of getting net access / video streaming to > > the rooms. I could go with a wireless bridge, but I'm assuming that the > > 200meg powerline systems should give me a better throughput, even if it > > isn't really 200meg. > > > > Am I right in thinking they work across the house's phase and not just a > > circuit within it? > > > > Your experiences good or bad will be appreciated! > > > > Thanks > > > > Les > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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