From andy at tensixtyone.com Mon Feb 1 10:23:45 2010 From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:23:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool Linux User Group Meeting - 3rd Feb 2009 Message-ID: <20100201102344.GA23702@manex.tensixtyone.com> Liverpool Linux User Group Meeting - December 2009 Date Wed February 3rd, 2009 from 7:00pm - 8:00pm Location: Liverpool Social Centre, 96 Bold Street, Liverpool, England L1 4HY Speaker: Tom Hall - ZFS/btrfs. Liverpool Linux User Group are a group of Linux and open source software users that meet on the first Wednesday of the month. If no talk is organised then we will usually organise a “open stage” for people to discuss projects, current news, or just to rant. Main Talk Following on from the RAID/LVM talk last year, Tom will talk about the ZFS filesystem in (Open)Solaris, how it collapses the stack and does some of the things RAID/LVM do plus more. He will also look at btrfs and discuss why though the feature list is similar, underneath it is quite a different beast. He will be announcing a new project to build Storage Pods from a design released by Backblaze mid last year and a brief survey of clustered filesystems/high availability solutions to try and get robust file and block level storage on commodity hardware. Open Stage As per usual, time will be allocated to the end of the talk for anyone to give a five minute talk on any subject. If you want some time just drop me a mail or grab me on the day. I'm sure Dan Lynch will want to talk about OggCamp and we'll be discussing LivLUG's role in the upcoming event. Doors are usually open before 7:00pm if people want to meet up in the centre, The Liverpool Social Centre is two doors up from Forbidden Planet and is the right-hand door at the front of “News From Nowhere”. Check the window for a handy Liverpool LUG sign, which will indicate we are there and not still at the pub. Press the white doorbell for access (the one marked basement) and someone will come up and open the door for you. Be aware that we also share the LSC with a book group, so when someone answers the door just ask for the Linux User Group in the basement and you should be OK. If you have trouble getting into the centre, give a contact a call and we'll let you in. After any talks are finished will usually stay in the meeting area until 8:00pm then head out to a local pub, The pub varies from month to month and usually depends on the size of the crowd. If you arrive late and unsure of where we are then give one of the contacts a ring. Website: http://livlug.org.uk/ Meeting Details: http://livlug.org.uk/meetings:2009_february From rcgibson at talktalk.net Tue Feb 2 16:36:03 2010 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:36:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Come in Nick Northcote In-Reply-To: <20100201102344.GA23702@manex.tensixtyone.com> References: <20100201102344.GA23702@manex.tensixtyone.com> Message-ID: <4B685460.7050100@talktalk.net> Sorry to litter all your inboxes, but I met Nick Northcote yesterday, and want to email him, but can't find his email address, so Nick, please can you reply. Roger. From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Feb 3 10:33:41 2010 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:33:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course Message-ID: Dear All, It's very very short notice but you may remember I mentioned a few months ago about a networking course. This is also the second send because the system ate the first one.Apologies to Les if he ends up releasing the original. Well things have just crept up on me and I think it may well be this weekend (Sat 6th). There are two caveats to this! Firstly, it will be held at Technium cast in Bangor (http://www.techniumcast.com/joomla/) The train will get you there if you do not drive. The Chester to Bangor leaves at 6.50 in the morning and will get you there for 7.45am. It is then just a short bus ride down the road. Cost of the return ticket is ~£25. It may be cheaper bought in advance. Secondly, no food or drink is provided. We have very graciously been offered the room for minimal cost, which im afraid does not include either lunch or refreshments, so it's a case of BYO (Bring Your Own). There is a canteen there, but I cannt gaurentee it will be open! I will find out and clarify this. The course is a one day course, taught by Dr Rob Shepard. He teaches networking and system management at Bangor University and is very good at explaining it all in simple terms to simple folk such as myself ;) I would go so far as to say exceptional in both skills and training. It will run from 9am until 5pm ish. (With a few stragglers wanting to play and ask more questions etc I suspect it may be nearer 6) The course itself will cover the following: Networking, including subnetting, and the theory behind it (ie ISO model, ARP,RARP, MAC addressing etc as well as high level views) Routing, Introducing routing and how inter lan routing works. Building on the previous topic. Switching AND VLANS. This topic will cover both the fundamentals of switching as well as more practical parts, such as using wireshark to look into what is happening in the network. If time allows Rob has also agreed to touch on DNS as well. Throughout the day there will be hands on and such. It won't just be talk! ' There is a small cost for the room and obviously Rob would like to be paid. Therefore if we can get 15 people, the cost will be £100 per person, payable on the day. This is an exceptional opportunity and i'd advise grabbing it with both hands. I need to know at the latest by tommorow confirmed names and numbers. Please bear in mind also that should someone who says they will turn up, not turn up, I personally will have to pay for their places! Could someone also please forward this on to Liverpool LUG. Let me know ASAP. To make this work we need a minimum of 15 people. (Well 14 if you consider I am going ;) ) Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at googlemail.com Wed Feb 3 12:53:50 2010 From: mrcrilly at googlemail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:53:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd love to go, but simply can't afford £100 right now. It would benefit me massively as I'm starting a foundation degree in ICT soon so it would be a head start. Shame. I hope everyone who goes has a great time! :-) Regards, Michael Crilly E-mail: mrcrilly at gmail.com MSN: msn at mcrilly.co.uk On 3 Feb 2010, at 10:33:33, Stuart Burns wrote: > Dear All, > > It's very very short notice but you may remember I mentioned a few months ago about a networking course. This is also the second send because the system ate the first one.Apologies to Les if he ends up releasing the original. > > Well things have just crept up on me and I think it may well be this weekend (Sat 6th). > > There are two caveats to this! Firstly, it will be held at Technium cast in Bangor (http://www.techniumcast.com/joomla/) The train will get you there if you do not drive. The Chester to Bangor leaves at 6.50 in the morning and will get you there for 7.45am. It is then just a short bus ride down the road. Cost of the return ticket is ~£25. It may be cheaper bought in advance. > > Secondly, no food or drink is provided. We have very graciously been offered the room for minimal cost, which im afraid does not include either lunch or refreshments, so it's a case of BYO (Bring Your Own). There is a canteen there, but I cannt gaurentee it will be open! I will find out and clarify this. > > The course is a one day course, taught by Dr Rob Shepard. He teaches networking and system management at Bangor University and is very good at explaining it all in simple terms to simple folk such as myself ;) I would go so far as to say exceptional in both skills and training. > > It will run from 9am until 5pm ish. (With a few stragglers wanting to play and ask more questions etc I suspect it may be nearer 6) > > The course itself will cover the following: > > Networking, including subnetting, and the theory behind it (ie ISO model, ARP,RARP, MAC addressing etc as well as high level views) > > Routing, Introducing routing and how inter lan routing works. Building on the previous topic. > > Switching AND VLANS. This topic will cover both the fundamentals of switching as well as more practical parts, such as using wireshark to look into what is happening in the network. > > If time allows Rob has also agreed to touch on DNS as well. > > Throughout the day there will be hands on and such. It won't just be talk! > ' > There is a small cost for the room and obviously Rob would like to be paid. Therefore if we can get 15 people, the cost will be £100 per person, payable on the day. This is an exceptional opportunity and i'd advise grabbing it with both hands. > > I need to know at the latest by tommorow confirmed names and numbers. Please bear in mind also that should someone who says they will turn up, not turn up, I personally will have to pay for their places! > > Could someone also please forward this on to Liverpool LUG. > > Let me know ASAP. To make this work we need a minimum of 15 people. (Well 14 if you consider I am going ;) ) > > Stuart _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Wed Feb 3 14:14:16 2010 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:14:16 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry Stuart I can't make it this Saturday but I have copied your email and forwarded it to the Liverpool LUG mailing list. Hopefully there'll be some takers on there. Good luck with the course, I hope it goes really well. See ya, Dan On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Michael Crilly wrote: > I'd love to go, but simply can't afford £100 right now. It would benefit me > massively as I'm starting a foundation degree in ICT soon so it would be a > head start. Shame. > > I hope everyone who goes has a great time! :-) > > Regards, > > Michael Crilly > E-mail: mrcrilly at gmail.com > MSN: msn at mcrilly.co.uk > > > > > On 3 Feb 2010, at 10:33:33, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Dear All, > > It's very very short notice but you may remember I mentioned a few months > ago about a networking course. This is also the second send because the > system ate the first one.Apologies to Les if he ends up releasing the > original. > > Well things have just crept up on me and I think it may well be this > weekend (Sat 6th). > > There are two caveats to this! Firstly, it will be held at Technium cast in > Bangor (http://www.techniumcast.com/joomla/) The train will get you there > if you do not drive. The Chester to Bangor leaves at 6.50 in the morning and > will get you there for 7.45am. It is then just a short bus ride down the > road. Cost of the return ticket is ~£25. It may be cheaper bought in > advance. > > Secondly, no food or drink is provided. We have very graciously been > offered the room for minimal cost, which im afraid does not include either > lunch or refreshments, so it's a case of BYO (Bring Your Own). There is a > canteen there, but I cannt gaurentee it will be open! I will find out and > clarify this. > > The course is a one day course, taught by Dr Rob Shepard. He teaches > networking and system management at Bangor University and is very good at > explaining it all in simple terms to simple folk such as myself ;) I would > go so far as to say exceptional in both skills and training. > > It will run from 9am until 5pm ish. (With a few stragglers wanting to play > and ask more questions etc I suspect it may be nearer 6) > > The course itself will cover the following: > > Networking, including subnetting, and the theory behind it (ie ISO model, > ARP,RARP, MAC addressing etc as well as high level views) > > Routing, Introducing routing and how inter lan routing works. Building on > the previous topic. > > Switching AND VLANS. This topic will cover both the fundamentals of > switching as well as more practical parts, such as using wireshark to look > into what is happening in the network. > > If time allows Rob has also agreed to touch on DNS as well. > > Throughout the day there will be hands on and such. It won't just be talk! > ' > There is a small cost for the room and obviously Rob would like to be paid. > Therefore if we can get 15 people, the cost will be £100 per person, payable > on the day. This is an exceptional opportunity and i'd advise grabbing it > with both hands. > > I need to know at the latest by tommorow confirmed names and numbers. > Please bear in mind also that should someone who says they will turn up, not > turn up, I personally will have to pay for their places! > > Could someone also please forward this on to Liverpool LUG. > > Let me know ASAP. To make this work we need a minimum of 15 people. (Well > 14 if you consider I am going ;) ) > > Stuart _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at tdobson.net Wed Feb 3 21:09:43 2010 From: lists at tdobson.net (Tim Dobson) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:09:43 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B69E61A.7020809@tdobson.net> I'd love to go, however I've already made commitments this Saturday (lobbying local MP on Digital Economy Bill) so I hope you'll forgive me this time. I hope it goes well. Tim Stuart Burns wrote: > Dear All, > > It's very very short notice but you may remember I mentioned a few months > ago about a networking course. This is also the second send because the > system ate the first one.Apologies to Les if he ends up releasing the > original. > > Well things have just crept up on me and I think it may well be this weekend > (Sat 6th). > > There are two caveats to this! Firstly, it will be held at Technium cast in > Bangor (http://www.techniumcast.com/joomla/) The train will get you there if > you do not drive. The Chester to Bangor leaves at 6.50 in the morning and > will get you there for 7.45am. It is then just a short bus ride down the > road. Cost of the return ticket is ~£25. It may be cheaper bought in > advance. > > Secondly, no food or drink is provided. We have very graciously been offered > the room for minimal cost, which im afraid does not include either lunch or > refreshments, so it's a case of BYO (Bring Your Own). There is a canteen > there, but I cannt gaurentee it will be open! I will find out and clarify > this. > > The course is a one day course, taught by Dr Rob Shepard. He teaches > networking and system management at Bangor University and is very good at > explaining it all in simple terms to simple folk such as myself ;) I would > go so far as to say exceptional in both skills and training. > > It will run from 9am until 5pm ish. (With a few stragglers wanting to play > and ask more questions etc I suspect it may be nearer 6) > > The course itself will cover the following: > > Networking, including subnetting, and the theory behind it (ie ISO model, > ARP,RARP, MAC addressing etc as well as high level views) > > Routing, Introducing routing and how inter lan routing works. Building on > the previous topic. > > Switching AND VLANS. This topic will cover both the fundamentals of > switching as well as more practical parts, such as using wireshark to look > into what is happening in the network. > > If time allows Rob has also agreed to touch on DNS as well. > > Throughout the day there will be hands on and such. It won't just be talk! > ' > There is a small cost for the room and obviously Rob would like to be paid. > Therefore if we can get 15 people, the cost will be £100 per person, payable > on the day. This is an exceptional opportunity and i'd advise grabbing it > with both hands. > > I need to know at the latest by tommorow confirmed names and numbers. Please > bear in mind also that should someone who says they will turn up, not turn > up, I personally will have to pay for their places! > > Could someone also please forward this on to Liverpool LUG. > > Let me know ASAP. To make this work we need a minimum of 15 people. (Well 14 > if you consider I am going ;) ) > > Stuart > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 13:51:14 2010 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:51:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Just to let everyone know, we just didn't get enough takers. We fell 10 short of our 15 required. I will try and arrange something in the future, planned a bit better also. So two things: Firstly, please dont turn up at Technium cast on Saturday as no one will be there and secondly, can someone please forward to the liverpool LUG. Many thanks. Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 14:56:21 2010 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:56:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll forward it to LivLUG now. I think a lot of people who wanted to come just couldn't do it on such short notice. There does seem to be a demand. Hope it happens some time in future. Nice work anyway Stuart :) Dan On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Just to let everyone know, we just didn't get enough takers. We fell 10 > short of our 15 required. I will try and arrange something in the future, > planned a bit better also. > > So two things: > > Firstly, please dont turn up at Technium cast on Saturday as no one will be > there and secondly, can someone please forward to the liverpool LUG. > > Many thanks. > > Stuart > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at googlemail.com Thu Feb 4 15:05:55 2010 From: mrcrilly at googlemail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:05:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Networking Course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with Dan, good work Stuart. Regards, Michael Crilly E-mail: mrcrilly at gmail.com MSN: msn at mcrilly.co.uk On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:56:20, Dan Lynch wrote: > I'll forward it to LivLUG now. I think a lot of people who wanted to come just couldn't do it on such short notice. There does seem to be a demand. Hope it happens some time in future. Nice work anyway Stuart :) > > Dan > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Just to let everyone know, we just didn't get enough takers. We fell 10 short of our 15 required. I will try and arrange something in the future, planned a bit better also. > > So two things: > > Firstly, please dont turn up at Technium cast on Saturday as no one will be there and secondly, can someone please forward to the liverpool LUG. > > Many thanks. > > Stuart > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Thu Feb 11 12:30:14 2010 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:30:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] libel laws Message-ID: <201002111230.25288.dh@iucr.org> Some on here may be interested in sign this. http://www.libelreform.org/sign Dave. From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 16:30:35 2010 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:30:35 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social Message-ID: Hi all, This is the monthly reminder about the LUG social, which will be happening tomorrow eveing from 7pm in the Old King's Head as usual. I'll probably be a bit late, but will see you there as soon as I can! Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at googlemail.com Wed Feb 24 20:11:35 2010 From: mrcrilly at googlemail.com (mrcrilly at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:11:35 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <363640383-1267042281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-719245752-@bda2016.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> I'll be there. Looking forward to seeing you all and catching up (although I'm quite boring and don't have much to offer in the way of gossip or news). I hope everyone is well. The LUG has been rather quiet. - Mike. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Les Pritchard Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:30:29 To: Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From joe.foy at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 23:21:22 2010 From: joe.foy at gmail.com (Joe Foy) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:21:22 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: <363640383-1267042281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-719245752-@bda2016.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Not sure I will be able to make it, as I have a wine tasting. Will try and stagger along later though ;-) On Feb 24, 2010 8:11 PM, wrote: I'll be there. Looking forward to seeing you all and catching up (although I'm quite boring and don't have much to offer in the way of gossip or news). I hope everyone is well. The LUG has been rather quiet. - Mike. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Les Pritchard Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:30:29 To: Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biglynchy at gmail.com Thu Feb 25 17:28:55 2010 From: biglynchy at gmail.com (Dan Lynch) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:28:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: <363640383-1267042281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-719245752-@bda2016.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I'm afraid I can't make it tonight now, sorry guys. Seem to have caught some kind of bug and been feeling ropey the last few days. Better rest up. I will see you next month though. Have a great night! :) Dan P.S - Don't forget to put http://oggcamp.org in your diaries for May, a great Free Software and Free Culture weekend in Liverpool. I'm not too sick to still promote stuff it seems, I'd be worried if I were. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Joe Foy wrote: > Not sure I will be able to make it, as I have a wine tasting. Will try and > stagger along later though ;-) > > On Feb 24, 2010 8:11 PM, wrote: > > I'll be there. Looking forward to seeing you all and catching up (although > I'm quite boring and don't have much to offer in the way of gossip or news). > > I hope everyone is well. The LUG has been rather quiet. > > - Mike. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Les Pritchard > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:30:29 > To: > Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at googlemail.com Thu Feb 25 17:48:49 2010 From: mrcrilly at googlemail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:48:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: <363640383-1267042281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-719245752-@bda2016.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Hi Dan. I hope you get well soon. Thanks for the link; I'll give it a look and see if I can make it. Regards, Michael Crilly mrcrilly at gmail.com On 25 Feb 2010, at 17:28:48, Dan Lynch wrote: > I'm afraid I can't make it tonight now, sorry guys. Seem to have caught some kind of bug and been feeling ropey the last few days. Better rest up. I will see you next month though. Have a great night! :) > > Dan > > P.S - Don't forget to put http://oggcamp.org in your diaries for May, a great Free Software and Free Culture weekend in Liverpool. I'm not too sick to still promote stuff it seems, I'd be worried if I were. > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Joe Foy wrote: > Not sure I will be able to make it, as I have a wine tasting. Will try and stagger along later though ;-) > > >> On Feb 24, 2010 8:11 PM, wrote: >> >> I'll be there. Looking forward to seeing you all and catching up (although I'm quite boring and don't have much to offer in the way of gossip or news). >> >> I hope everyone is well. 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URL: From dh at iucr.org Fri Feb 26 15:32:13 2010 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:32:13 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Sound familiar? Message-ID: <201002261532.14146.dh@iucr.org> Sound familiar? http://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html Dave. From iamseawolf at gmail.com Fri Feb 26 16:02:37 2010 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:02:37 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] "Recovering" (SUSE) (root) passwords Message-ID: <201002261602.24282.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Afternoon -- To follow up with yesterday evening's discussion, here is how to "recover" a root password on an installed SUSE (and other with slight modifications) Linux system. I use inverted commas because one doesn't recover it, it is chnaged to something new; likewise, other users' is just removed and re-set. These steps will only apply when GRUB is installed; other boot- loaders, like the one on the CD, need a slightly different process. The process involves starting the system in single-user mode (automatically logging in with the root account), changing root's password and optionally removing the password associated with other local accounts. 1) During boot, enter the GRUB boot-loader screen by pressing Escape. - This is where we select which OS to boot. Many contemporary distros use the 'hiddenmenu' feature, booting the default OS if the user doesn't hit a key within 5secs or so. Catch this time-out and display the GRUB menu proper. 2) Ensure the distro item is selected and press 'E'. - This will display the configuration for booting that particular OS. 3) Highlight the 'kernel' line and hit 'E' - This will edit the individual line of the configuration set. 4) Append to the end of this line the word 'single' - This option, or flag, tells the kernel to start a single-user console, rather than continuing a normal boot process with Init, after loading the kernel. 5) At the shell, change root's password with the 'passwd' command. - Single-user mode's single user is root. Double-check the currently- logged in user with the 'whoami' command, or make sure the prompt contains the hash symbol instead of the normal dollar sign. 6) Optionally, edit the /etc/shadow file to remove other users' -- not root's -- passwords. Remove the 2nd field. - The line should read something similar to: johndoe:$6$imR8AG.G$nK4HHDTraw.w7xN1IHAM5ot1dc:13562:0:99999:7::: johndoe::13562:0:99999:7::: but keep the colons. They're the delimiters that separate each field. - the /etc/shadow file mirrors the list of user accounts found in the /etc/passwd file. When a user attempts to log-in, the password entered is hashed and compared to the stored MD5 hash found in /etc/shadow. 7) Restart the system. - The only time you'll have to turn it off and back on again. 8) Log in as root with the new password. - If this is not accepted, reboot in to single-user mode again and re-set it. 9) Change other users' passwords using 'passwd username' - Root, as superuser, can change the passwords of others accounts. Other users, however, can only change theirs; sudo must be used for others. 10) Stick the kettle on. Again, this is a generic process that may be slightly different on SUSE, but it shouldn't. I'm pretty sure there isn't anything that can *totally* knacker up a box, but system-level stuff is always prone to slips :) (Confidence FTW) Hope it helps! -- Ben Arnold Chester, UK e: iamseawolf at gmail.com e: ben at seawolfsanctuary.com w: seawolfsanctuary.com nom = { :cookies => :mouth } nom; nom; nom -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Feb 26 16:19:15 2010 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:19:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] "Recovering" (SUSE) (root) passwords In-Reply-To: <201002261602.24282.iamseawolf@gmail.com> References: <201002261602.24282.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Message-ID: Alternatively when grub is starting spacebar and apend 1 to boot line abd press b. Will boot into single user mode then use passwd Sent from my iPhone On 26 Feb 2010, at 16:02, Ben Arnold wrote: > Afternoon -- > > To follow up with yesterday evening's discussion, here is how to > "recover" a root password on an installed SUSE (and other with slight > modifications) Linux system. I use inverted commas because one doesn't > recover it, it is chnaged to something new; likewise, other users' is > just removed and re-set. > > These steps will only apply when GRUB is installed; other boot- > loaders, like the one on the CD, need a slightly different process. > > The process involves starting the system in single-user mode > (automatically logging in with the root account), changing root's > password and optionally removing the password associated with other > local accounts. > > 1) During boot, enter the GRUB boot-loader screen by pressing Escape. > - This is where we select which OS to boot. Many contemporary distros > use the 'hiddenmenu' feature, booting the default OS if the user > doesn't hit a key within 5secs or so. Catch this time-out and display > the GRUB menu proper. > > 2) Ensure the distro item is selected and press 'E'. > - This will display the configuration for booting that particular OS. > > 3) Highlight the 'kernel' line and hit 'E' > - This will edit the individual line of the configuration set. > > 4) Append to the end of this line the word 'single' > - This option, or flag, tells the kernel to start a single-user > console, rather than continuing a normal boot process with Init, after > loading the kernel. > > 5) At the shell, change root's password with the 'passwd' command. > - Single-user mode's single user is root. Double-check the currently- > logged in user with the 'whoami' command, or make sure the prompt > contains the hash symbol instead of the normal dollar sign. > > 6) Optionally, edit the /etc/shadow file to remove other users' -- not > root's -- passwords. Remove the 2nd field. > - The line should read something similar to: > johndoe:$6$imR8AG.G$nK4HHDTraw.w7xN1IHAM5ot1dc:13562:0:99999:7::: > johndoe::13562:0:99999:7::: > but keep the colons. They're the delimiters that separate each field. > > - the /etc/shadow file mirrors the list of user accounts found in the > /etc/passwd file. When a user attempts to log-in, the password entered > is hashed and compared to the stored MD5 hash found in /etc/shadow. > > 7) Restart the system. > - The only time you'll have to turn it off and back on again. > > 8) Log in as root with the new password. > - If this is not accepted, reboot in to single-user mode again and > re-set it. > > 9) Change other users' passwords using 'passwd username' > - Root, as superuser, can change the passwords of others accounts. > Other users, however, can only change theirs; sudo must be used for > others. > > 10) Stick the kettle on. > > Again, this is a generic process that may be slightly different on > SUSE, but it shouldn't. I'm pretty sure there isn't anything that can > *totally* knacker up a box, but system-level stuff is always prone to > slips :) (Confidence FTW) > > Hope it helps! > > -- > > Ben Arnold > Chester, UK > > e: iamseawolf at gmail.com > e: ben at seawolfsanctuary.com > w: seawolfsanctuary.com > > nom = { :cookies => :mouth } > nom; nom; nom > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From daryl.whelan at ukonline.co.uk Fri Feb 26 19:28:55 2010 From: daryl.whelan at ukonline.co.uk (Daryl Whelan) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:28:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] "Recovering" (SUSE) (root) passwords In-Reply-To: References: <201002261602.24282.iamseawolf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004c01cab719$fcca4420$f65ecc60$@whelan@ukonline.co.uk> Doesn't single-user mode prompt for a root password? My trick for recovering from a lost root password was changing the kernel command line to init=/bin/bash (i.e. just kernel (hdX,X)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdXX init=/bin/bash) YMMV with this tactic though. So long as the drivers for your HDD and controller are compiled into the kernel, not as modules, it will work just fine. The only downside is it skips the whole init process, so none of your boot scripts work. I've got this to work on several different versions of Slackware, a couple of Gentoo installs and an old Ubuntu machine (version 6.10 I think) > -----Original Message----- > From: chester-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:chester- > bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Stuart Burns > Sent: 26 February 2010 16:18 > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] "Recovering" (SUSE) (root) passwords > > Alternatively when grub is starting spacebar and apend 1 to boot line > abd press b. Will boot into single user mode then use passwd > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26 Feb 2010, at 16:02, Ben Arnold wrote: > > > Afternoon -- > > > > To follow up with yesterday evening's discussion, here is how to > > "recover" a root password on an installed SUSE (and other with slight > > modifications) Linux system. I use inverted commas because one > doesn't > > recover it, it is chnaged to something new; likewise, other users' is > > just removed and re-set. > > > > These steps will only apply when GRUB is installed; other boot- > > loaders, like the one on the CD, need a slightly different process. > > > > The process involves starting the system in single-user mode > > (automatically logging in with the root account), changing root's > > password and optionally removing the password associated with other > > local accounts. > > > > 1) During boot, enter the GRUB boot-loader screen by pressing Escape. > > - This is where we select which OS to boot. Many contemporary distros > > use the 'hiddenmenu' feature, booting the default OS if the user > > doesn't hit a key within 5secs or so. Catch this time-out and display > > the GRUB menu proper. > > > > 2) Ensure the distro item is selected and press 'E'. > > - This will display the configuration for booting that particular OS. > > > > 3) Highlight the 'kernel' line and hit 'E' > > - This will edit the individual line of the configuration set. > > > > 4) Append to the end of this line the word 'single' > > - This option, or flag, tells the kernel to start a single-user > > console, rather than continuing a normal boot process with Init, > after > > loading the kernel. > > > > 5) At the shell, change root's password with the 'passwd' command. > > - Single-user mode's single user is root. Double-check the currently- > > logged in user with the 'whoami' command, or make sure the prompt > > contains the hash symbol instead of the normal dollar sign. > > > > 6) Optionally, edit the /etc/shadow file to remove other users' -- > not > > root's -- passwords. Remove the 2nd field. > > - The line should read something similar to: > > johndoe:$6$imR8AG.G$nK4HHDTraw.w7xN1IHAM5ot1dc:13562:0:99999:7::: > > johndoe::13562:0:99999:7::: > > but keep the colons. They're the delimiters that separate each field. > > > > - the /etc/shadow file mirrors the list of user accounts found in the > > /etc/passwd file. When a user attempts to log-in, the password > entered > > is hashed and compared to the stored MD5 hash found in /etc/shadow. > > > > 7) Restart the system. > > - The only time you'll have to turn it off and back on again. > > > > 8) Log in as root with the new password. > > - If this is not accepted, reboot in to single-user mode again and > > re-set it. > > > > 9) Change other users' passwords using 'passwd username' > > - Root, as superuser, can change the passwords of others accounts. > > Other users, however, can only change theirs; sudo must be used for > > others. > > > > 10) Stick the kettle on. > > > > Again, this is a generic process that may be slightly different on > > SUSE, but it shouldn't. I'm pretty sure there isn't anything that can > > *totally* knacker up a box, but system-level stuff is always prone to > > slips :) (Confidence FTW) > > > > Hope it helps! > > > > -- > > > > Ben Arnold > > Chester, UK > > > > e: iamseawolf at gmail.com > > e: ben at seawolfsanctuary.com > > w: seawolfsanctuary.com > > > > nom = { :cookies => :mouth } > > nom; nom; nom > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 22:42:03 2010 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:42:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Some cool commands you may not have known about Message-ID: Hiya everyone, I just thought i'd drop a quick email to let you know about some awesome commands I picked up on my RH course. Firstly lets start simple: mtr You've done traceroute and ping, but this is both in one tool, and on steroids. For example try mtr www.google.com. This is awesome as it shows firstly the route and also all your network choke points are, and how bad they are. Its in RH, Centos, Fedora and available for most distros. Secondly, watch. How often have you done a large cp command and waited, and waited. If you do it, set up another console and do watch df -h. It will basically repeat df -h every two seconds, so you can see what is happening with disk space. Basically watch will allow you to automate a command! You can change the time interval. Thirdly screen. Rather than having loads of terminal windows open, use screen. It will allow you to run many consoles within one window. Shortcut keys allow you to move between the screens. Fouthly, partprobe You know when you create a new disk or partitions and you have to reboot, well this funky app, run after using fdisk, will re read all the new partitions and make them all available. Saves a reboot. Old command, new command. lsof is so old, use fuser. It does the same thing but is more useful ;) If I think of any others, I'll let you know! Regards Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 22:47:52 2010 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:47:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] The networking course, again Message-ID: Further to the short notice cancellation, I am going to do it a bit better planned this time round. Firstly, irrespective of date, I need to know how many people are interested and prepared to pay to attend. The money goes to pay Rob, the lecturer, and his prep. I just need to know numbers at this point. 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