From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Dec  1 20:14:33 2011
From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:14:33 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
Message-ID: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>


Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...

Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for all your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.


Paul

PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk about it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get hold of who don't know yet.  Thanks
 		 	   		  
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From veedub at linuxmail.org  Thu Dec  1 20:43:18 2011
From: veedub at linuxmail.org (=?utf-8?B?dmVlZHViQGxpbnV4bWFpbC5vcmc=?=)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:43:18 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] =?utf-8?q?crappy_news_update?=
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1542320562.15432.chester@mailman.lug.org.uk>

Very sorry indeed to hear the news .

Sent from my HTC

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From: "Paul Williams" <wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk>
To: <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 20:14
Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...

Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for all your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.


Paul

PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk about it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get hold of who don't know yet.  Thanks
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From les.pritchard at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 20:44:01 2011
From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:44:01 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAC_G_sD96GBNYiyFqishAiH-wbnj_yOebmkMuJ8_yb=Bu7bUrw@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,

So sorry to hear your news, thinking of you all at this difficult time.
Take care of yourself.

Les

On 1 December 2011 20:14, Paul Williams <wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>  Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...
>
> Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for all
> your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.
>
>
> Paul
>
> PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk about
> it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get hold of
> who don't know yet.  Thanks
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
>
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From mrcrilly at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 21:08:31 2011
From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:08:31 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
In-Reply-To: <CAC_G_sD96GBNYiyFqishAiH-wbnj_yOebmkMuJ8_yb=Bu7bUrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
	<CAC_G_sD96GBNYiyFqishAiH-wbnj_yOebmkMuJ8_yb=Bu7bUrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJdOuEWObfjoVrtUX-zM9c5AzDGr+8MBm_Twh-jo_7jyHYk4zg@mail.gmail.com>

Aww Paul I am so sorry.

I wish you and your all the very best. I will be thinking of you both.

On 1 December 2011 20:43, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> So sorry to hear your news, thinking of you all at this difficult time.
> Take care of yourself.
>
> Les
>
> On 1 December 2011 20:14, Paul Williams <wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>  Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...
>>
>> Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for all
>> your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk
>> about it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get hold
>> of who don't know yet.  Thanks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chester mailing list
>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
>
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From dan at danlynch.org  Thu Dec  1 22:54:59 2011
From: dan at danlynch.org (Dan Lynch)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:54:59 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
In-Reply-To: <CAJdOuEWObfjoVrtUX-zM9c5AzDGr+8MBm_Twh-jo_7jyHYk4zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
	<CAC_G_sD96GBNYiyFqishAiH-wbnj_yOebmkMuJ8_yb=Bu7bUrw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJdOuEWObfjoVrtUX-zM9c5AzDGr+8MBm_Twh-jo_7jyHYk4zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFW3EdFVNeH74Ma=v8JM0bGotTmSVJKr7NwOsArkgpgz0ivZtg@mail.gmail.com>

It's difficult to know what to say but obviously my heart goes out to you
and the family. Hang in there man!

Dan


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Michael Crilly <mrcrilly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Aww Paul I am so sorry.
>
> I wish you and your all the very best. I will be thinking of you both.
>
>
> On 1 December 2011 20:43, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> So sorry to hear your news, thinking of you all at this difficult time.
>> Take care of yourself.
>>
>> Les
>>
>> On 1 December 2011 20:14, Paul Williams <wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>  Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...
>>>
>>> Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for
>>> all your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk
>>> about it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get hold
>>> of who don't know yet.  Thanks
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chester mailing list
>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chester mailing list
>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
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From dh at iucr.org  Fri Dec  2 10:06:52 2011
From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:06:52 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4ED8A322.2070704@iucr.org>

Sorry to hear this Paul, my condolences.


 Dave.


On 01/12/11 20:14, Paul Williams wrote:
> Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...
> 
> Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for
> all your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk
> about it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get
> hold of who don't know yet.  Thanks
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester

-- 
Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org)



From rah at bash.sh  Sat Dec  3 16:34:54 2011
From: rah at bash.sh (Bob Ham)
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:34:54 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool LUG meeting with Sebastian Arcus collecting
	phone compatibility data - Wednesday 7th December 2011
Message-ID: <E1RWsY8-0001q9-At@myrtle.6gnip.net>

On Wednesday, 7th December 2011, the Liverpool Linux User Group will
be meeting.  This month there is no talk as such, but Sebastian Arcus
will lead us in an effort to acquire data on the compatibility of
bluetooth-enabled mobile phones with the Asterisk free software PBX¹.

Of interest is the functionality of phones operating as a handset, a
phone line, and an SMS sender or receiver.  We will attempt to add as
many rows as possible to the table here:

  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/chan_mobile

So says Sebastian,

  "What you need to do:

  1. Find, beg, borrow or, err, borrow as many different bluetooth
  enabled mobiles of any sort you can. We mainly need mobiles that
  either don't show on the wiki page above, or the ones which show
  with a question mark and can do with more testing. Even older models
  are important - as this application involves a phone sitting next to
  an Asterisk box and can be plugged into its charger permanently (old
  batteries are not a problem). So if a model proves to be
  particularly suitable - people will go on Ebay and source older
  models or re-use stuff lying around doing nothing.

  2. Bring the mobile with you - including a charger in case it is an
  older mobile which doesn't hold charge very well."


We will meet at the Liverpool Social Centre² at 7.00pm for a 7.30pm
start.  After the data collection efforts, we will venture to Studio 2³
for beverages and further discussion.

Liverpool Social Centre is next door to the News from Nowhere bookshop
on Bold Street⁴.  To access the centre, press the bell for the
basement on the left of the door and someone will come up and let you
in.

A reminder will be sent closer to the date.  See you there :-)


¹ http://www.asterisk.org/
² http://www.liverpoolsocialcentre.org/
³ http://www.parrstreet.co.uk/STUDIO2/Lounge%20Bar.htm
⁴ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.402426&lon=-2.976481&zoom=18
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From wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 19:08:29 2011
From: wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Williams)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:08:29 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
In-Reply-To: <4ED8A322.2070704@iucr.org>
References: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>,
	<4ED8A322.2070704@iucr.org>
Message-ID: <BLU162-W64963704610B5CFCAD36D4C5B50@phx.gbl>


Thanks to everyone for the kind words.

Paul

> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:06:26 +0000
> From: dh at iucr.org
> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
> 
> Sorry to hear this Paul, my condolences.
> 
> 
>  Dave.
> 
> 
> On 01/12/11 20:14, Paul Williams wrote:
> > Just a quick note for those of you who wanted to know...
> > 
> > Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.  Thankyou for
> > all your support messages my wife and I received prior to that happening.
> > 
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > PS.  If you know me or Rach through facebook etc, please do not talk
> > about it on any such site yet as there are people we still need to get
> > hold of who don't know yet.  Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chester mailing list
> > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
> 
> -- 
> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
 		 	   		  
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From rah at bash.sh  Tue Dec  6 21:56:14 2011
From: rah at bash.sh (Bob Ham)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:56:14 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] crappy news update
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W36E171BE86697DCB406121C5B10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1323208573.3373.3.camel@myrtle.6gnip.net>

On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 20:14 +0000, Paul Williams wrote:

> Our daughter Jasmine Rose passed away over the weekend.

Even though I haven't participated much in this list or Chester LUG, I'm
still very sorry to hear of your loss.  My condolences.

Bob

-- 
Bob Ham <rah at bash.sh>

for (;;) { ++pancakes; }
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From darkstar01uk at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Dec 11 21:59:16 2011
From: darkstar01uk at yahoo.co.uk (Tim White)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:59:16 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] de-lurking - a desperate question!
Message-ID: <1323640749.70260.YahooMailNeo@web29512.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi all

Don't know if you
remember me – I came to a few meetings right at the start of the
group, but then moved to Manchester 2 or 3 years ago and have
followed you all as a lurker since then. Anyway, I was wondering if
the Chester hive mind can offer any advice on a problem which is
doing my head in at the moment... Apologies for the long story.

I have a desktop PC,
about 7/8 years old, Athlon processor, Radeon graphics card, which
has happily run Linux for years starting with PCLinuxOS and then
Debian 5 and 6 stable. In the past 2 or 3 months it got a bit flaky
and would not update to the latest (Deb stable) kernel either through
Synaptic or apt-get. Then last week it wouldn't boot at all and
reported segfaults at boot.

So I tried to:
Re-install a
Clonezilla system backup (from before the errors started happening) 
Install a newly
downloaded Deb 6 CD
Re- install from my
previous Deb 5 and 6 CDs, which I know ran OK
Install other linuxes
– SUSE, Fedora CDs
Run live CDs – Suse,
PCLinuxOS, probably others.
They all fail, either
in the install or on first boot. Usually the error message is about a
segfault, sometimes about a corrupt install but I suspect that is a
false message. So, I think a hardware problem. 

BUT I can run Puppy
from a USB stick which loads into RAM. I have tried changing the HD
(SATA and IDE) and CD drives, no difference, and run memtest, all OK.
I don't understand. Why can I run from USB / RAM, but not hard disk
or CD? Of course, I'm trying to avoid the conclusion that the thing
is terminally broken. I can't afford a new one, I've just bought a
new bike! Does anyone have any suggestions?

Cheers

Tim
 
==
All General Statements Are False
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From veedub at linuxmail.org  Sun Dec 11 23:08:43 2011
From: veedub at linuxmail.org (john)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:08:43 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] de-lurking - a desperate question!
In-Reply-To: <1323640749.70260.YahooMailNeo@web29512.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <1323640749.70260.YahooMailNeo@web29512.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4EE537F1.8090705@linuxmail.org>

Bust cd or hard drive or memory.
Hope it ain't the hard drive they have rocketed in price!
John
On 12/11/2011 09:59 PM, Tim White wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Don't know if you remember me – I came to a few meetings right at the 
> start of the group, but then moved to Manchester 2 or 3 years ago and 
> have followed you all as a lurker since then. Anyway, I was wondering 
> if the Chester hive mind can offer any advice on a problem which is 
> doing my head in at the moment... Apologies for the long story.
>
> I have a desktop PC, about 7/8 years old, Athlon processor, Radeon 
> graphics card, which has happily run Linux for years starting with 
> PCLinuxOS and then Debian 5 and 6 stable. In the past 2 or 3 months it 
> got a bit flaky and would not update to the latest (Deb stable) kernel 
> either through Synaptic or apt-get. Then last week it wouldn't boot at 
> all and reported segfaults at boot.
>
> So I tried to:
> Re-install a Clonezilla system backup (from before the errors started 
> happening)
> Install a newly downloaded Deb 6 CD
> Re- install from my previous Deb 5 and 6 CDs, which I know ran OK
> Install other linuxes – SUSE, Fedora CDs
> Run live CDs – Suse, PCLinuxOS, probably others.
> They all fail, either in the install or on first boot. Usually the 
> error message is about a segfault, sometimes about a corrupt install 
> but I suspect that is a false message. So, I think a hardware problem.
>
> BUT I can run Puppy from a USB stick which loads into RAM. I have 
> tried changing the HD (SATA and IDE) and CD drives, no difference, and 
> run memtest, all OK. I don't understand. Why can I run from USB / RAM, 
> but not hard disk or CD? Of course, I'm trying to avoid the conclusion 
> that the thing is terminally broken. I can't afford a new one, I've 
> just bought a new bike! Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim
> ==
> All General Statements Are False
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester

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From shop at open-t.co.uk  Mon Dec 12 01:59:08 2011
From: shop at open-t.co.uk (Sebastian Arcus)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:59:08 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] de-lurking - a desperate question!
In-Reply-To: <1323640749.70260.YahooMailNeo@web29512.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <1323640749.70260.YahooMailNeo@web29512.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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From shop at open-t.co.uk  Sun Dec 25 21:56:23 2011
From: shop at open-t.co.uk (Sebastian Arcus)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:56:23 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Vehicle cctv project details available online
Message-ID: <4EF79BF8.5000407@open-t.co.uk>

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From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 10:25:05 2011
From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:25:05 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Our monthly meeting
Message-ID: <CAPt63tzdL2JhVKUm6nMX8pZ5MBjdfoot7y_bNYSXZhEnSP18Sg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

Just wondering if the meet for this Thursday is on (Les ? ). Ideal
opportunity to escape turkey overload and Christmas pudding overload!

Regards

Stuart

-- 
Stuart Burns
E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
M: [redacted]
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From BenArnold at fsfe.org  Fri Dec 30 22:10:48 2011
From: BenArnold at fsfe.org (Ben Arnold)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:10:48 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] This'll sort the men from the neckbeards...
Message-ID: <CAKcBX7k9AesaiQD3aK6J=6UziQ=Aqh1s5XMpYO9tDvnrWOvV0w@mail.gmail.com>

The Christmas present you should give yourself: a working
back-up/restore... http://qntm.org/suicide

All the best for twenty-twelve.

Cheers.
-- 
*Ben Arnold*
*Chester, UK*

*Free Software Foundation (Europe)*
*e: benarnold at fsfe.org  |  **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com**
*
*w: seawolfsanctuary.com  |  chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org*
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From mrcrilly at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 00:20:07 2011
From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 00:20:07 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] This'll sort the men from the neckbeards...
In-Reply-To: <CAKcBX7k9AesaiQD3aK6J=6UziQ=Aqh1s5XMpYO9tDvnrWOvV0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKcBX7k9AesaiQD3aK6J=6UziQ=Aqh1s5XMpYO9tDvnrWOvV0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJdOuEWiOSuE-dhT63c-PCNXyLM1O5bDGwDFGhx7JvfGEGsVmg@mail.gmail.com>

Err... yeah O_o

I'm going to request we replace ALL our client's machines (about 7,000 of
them) with this instead of RHEL/CentOS :P

On 30 December 2011 22:10, Ben Arnold <BenArnold at fsfe.org> wrote:

> The Christmas present you should give yourself: a working
> back-up/restore... http://qntm.org/suicide
>
> All the best for twenty-twelve.
>
> Cheers.
> --
> *Ben Arnold*
> *Chester, UK*
>
> *Free Software Foundation (Europe)*
> *e: benarnold at fsfe.org  |  **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com**
> *
> *w: seawolfsanctuary.com  |  chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org*
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
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