[Chester LUG] You've heard about the Google thing..

Thu Jan 26 15:49:52 UTC 2012

On 26/01/12 15:45, Paul Williams wrote:
> I tried duck duck go as a default for about a month, but it never seemed
> to return the results I needed.  Maybe there's something positive to say
> about google's profiling there.
> 
> When I switched to Mint 12, I lost the "right click> search google"
> option in Firefox. 

The "Context Search" extension is good for this.

Dave.

 Since I use it all the time to check IP addresses
> and google throws up "stop forum spam" within 2 results every time, I
> watched with horror as duck duck go failed to display it for several
> pages.  I have since hacked firefox back to give google as default.
> 
> I respect what duck duck go stand for, but it's not for me.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:34:39 +0000
>> From: les.pritchard at gmail.com
>> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] You've heard about the Google thing..
>>
>> In fact, that reminds me. A few years back I met a guy who was in the
>> business of selling Eastern European wifes (although I think he worded
>> it a bit better and legally than that!). He was setting up a website
>> for his company, all I could think of were pages with the Amazon style
>> "Customers who looked at this lady also liked..." at the bottom :-)
>>
>> On 26 January 2012 15:30, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Blimey, their profiling is spot on!
>> >
>> > On 26 January 2012 15:25, Stuart Burns
> <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I guess for the time being I shall just put up with adverts for Russian
>> >> brides, Viagra and hitmen for now. (kidding!)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 26 January 2012 15:22, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, in a way Google is run in a very honest way. They're a bunch of
>> >>> techies who don't enjoy the support and personal interaction. Normally
>> >>> there's a buffer between them and customers in most companies, but
>> >>> that never happened for Google.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 26 January 2012 15:07, David Holden <dh at iucr.org> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The interesting thing to me about Google is their almost non
> existent
>> >>> > support. More and more my online presence relies on them but if
>> >>> > something goes wrong there appears to be little in the way of
>> >>> > resolution, sans their poor help system. I compare this to say
> Amazon,
>> >>> > who in my experience provide excellent support, their Kindle
> support is
>> >>> > amazing.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Dave.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 26/01/12 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote:
>> >>> >> Interesting stuff, the whole search engine world seemed to go very
>> >>> >> quiet for a while - like everyone had given up and let Google
> get on
>> >>> >> with it.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The trouble with all of these is scaling and that's where
> Google got
>> >>> >> it bang on. They've now got to such a size that all these other
> sites
>> >>> >> feel so slow - even if we're just talking seconds!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> It's really good to have some more competition in this area
> though and
>> >>> >> I'll have a good play. I do find it funny that this slightly
>> >>> >> anti-Google conversation has included three Gmail users, I'm sure
>> >>> >> they're watching us :-p
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Les
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 26 January 2012 14:27, Ben Arnold <BenArnold at fsfe.org> wrote:
>> >>> >>> Highly recommended, I've had it as my default for months as
> the search
>> >>> >>> box
>> >>> >>> in my Opera no longer has a Google entry :)
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I believe this is (to become) the default in Linux Mint n+1,
> probably
>> >>> >>> just
>> >>> >>> Firefox but I imagine they could do it for all the browsers they
>> >>> >>> package.
>> >>> >>> The bang search terms are ridiculously useful, "!github <search>"
>> >>> >>> etc.,
>> >>> >>> though "!google <search terms>" not so much...
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I've also come across Seeks, http://www.seeks-project.info/
> and search
>> >>> >>> with
>> >>> >>> thier instance https://www.seeks-project.info/search.php, which I
>> >>> >>> think
>> >>> >>> that, as a decentralised service, aims to group users that
> search for
>> >>> >>> similar terms so they can provide useful results for that
> group. Sort
>> >>> >>> of
>> >>> >>> like voting up, but not for individual searches. Yes, I'm still
>> >>> >>> confused.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Until later,
>> >>> >>> Ben
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On 26 January 2012 12:52, Stuart Burns
> <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> I found out about a new search engine and have been using it
> for a
>> >>> >>>> week or
>> >>> >>>> so. Google like it used to be, without annoying ads,
> tracking, and
>> >>> >>>> asking do
>> >>> >>>> I want to upload to + etc. It also, most importantly has good
>> >>> >>>> privacy, and
>> >>> >>>> all sorts of customisable options, to include fully secure
> search, no
>> >>> >>>> search
>> >>> >>>> term passing etc.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> www.duckduckgo.com
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> It's clean, it's simple, it's relevant and quick.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Also it has some geeky toys http://duckduckgo.com/goodies.html
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> --
>> >>> >>> Ben Arnold
>> >>> >>> Chester, UK
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Free Software Foundation (Europe) Fellow
>> >>> >>> e: benarnold at fsfe.org  |  ben at seawolfsanctuary.com
>> >>> >>> w: seawolfsanctuary.com  |  chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org
>> >>> >>>
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