From mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 1 18:35:06 2012 From: mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk (mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:35:06 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] anyone know VB? Message-ID: <8618902.2140211330626877967.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Sorry, I'll wash my mouth out with soap and water later, but I've been given a contract job that needs programming with VisualBasic in Excel. I've written ExcelVB before, so it doesn't phase me too much. However, there might be some functions that stump me and, given that there is a deadline, I'd be grateful if I knew of anyone out there who might be able to act as a backup resource in case I get stupidly stuck. Mark Kuramoto-Headey Broughton From mrcrilly at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:10:49 2012 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:10:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] anyone know VB? In-Reply-To: <8618902.2140211330626877967.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <8618902.2140211330626877967.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: I know enough to avoid it for any serious work. I don't know enough to consult, sorry. On 1 March 2012 18:34, mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk wrote: > Sorry, I'll wash my mouth out with soap and water later, but I've been given a > contract job that needs programming with VisualBasic in Excel. > > I've written > ExcelVB before, so it doesn't phase me too much.  However, there might be some > functions that stump me and, given that there is a deadline, I'd be grateful if > I knew of anyone out there who might be able to act as a backup resource in > case I get stupidly stuck. > > Mark Kuramoto-Headey > Broughton > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- - Crilly From rah at bash.sh Mon Mar 5 19:43:52 2012 From: rah at bash.sh (Bob Ham) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:43:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool LUG meeting with Sam Tuke - Free Software Vs. Open Source: how much freedom is enough? - Wednesday 7th March 2012 Message-ID: On Wednesday, 7th March 2012, the Liverpool Linux User Group will be meeting. Sam Tuke of the Free Software Foundation Europe¹ will be giving a talk entitled "Free Software Vs. Open Source: how much freedom is enough?" An abstract follows: At what point does advocating freedom become tyrannical? Freedom to use the license we want, or freedom from certain kinds of restrictions? Can't we let the license suit the purpose? As long as I'm able to choose what I use, what's the problem? Can't we all just get along? These questions and more will be addressed in a talk about the relationship between the two major traditions: Free Software and Open Source. The relevance of the debate to society, the impact on developers, and the history of the movement will all be addressed during discussion of these difficult subjects. We will meet at the Liverpool Social Centre² at 7.00pm for a 7.30pm start. After the talk, we will venture to Studio 2³ for beverages and further discussion. Liverpool Social Centre is next door to the News from Nowhere bookshop on Bold Street⁴. To access the centre, press the bell for the basement on the left of the door and someone will come up and let you in. This promises to be another fascinating talk :-) ¹ http://uk.fsfe.org/ ² http://www.liverpoolsocialcentre.org/ ³ http://www.parrstreet.co.uk/STUDIO2/Home.htm ⁴ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.402426&lon=-2.976481&zoom=18 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michael.dorrington at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 08:13:08 2012 From: michael.dorrington at gmail.com (Michael Dorrington) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:13:08 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool LUG meeting with Sam Tuke - Free Software Vs. Open Source: how much freedom is enough? - Wednesday 7th March 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F571888.4040901@gmail.com> For the Free Software Movement's opinion on this I recommend reading: Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html Regards, Mike. FSF member #9429 http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=9429 http://www.fsf.org/about "The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is a nonprofit with a worldwide mission to promote computer user freedom and to defend the rights of all free software users." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Toast making facilities impacted" "Work around identified - Argos @ £9.99" "Toaster dependent items impacted" As it was marked Sev 1 there was major incident management team braced for action, for a duff toaster. I don't think HP do toasters. Oh how we laughed this morning. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Wed Mar 7 14:55:15 2012 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:55:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] SEV 1 priority action message ;) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F5776CC.8050703@iucr.org> So no "Oven grill failover system" then? What kind of a slapdash organisation is that! Dave. On 07/03/12 14:47, Stuart Burns wrote: > I thought I would share this with you guys. I can't cut and paste but I > can relay the details and keep the offending parties anonymous (no, it > wasn't me) > > We all know about Sev 1 priority action messages for when the poo really > hits the fan, ie multi million pound system down. > > This morning in the global work queue we got a sev 1 alert message. > "Toaster has caught fire, extinguished. Please replace." > > I think someone hit the wrong button. However, you can imagine the log > comments:- > > "This is a production toaster. Toast making facilities impacted" > > "Work around identified - Argos @ £9.99" > > "Toaster dependent items impacted" > > As it was marked Sev 1 there was major incident management team braced > for action, for a duff toaster. I don't think HP do toasters. > > Oh how we laughed this morning. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From veedub at linuxmail.org Wed Mar 7 15:16:57 2012 From: veedub at linuxmail.org (John) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:16:57 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] SEV 1 priority action message ;) In-Reply-To: <4F5776CC.8050703@iucr.org> References: <4F5776CC.8050703@iucr.org> Message-ID: <1331133406.7719.1.camel@linux-x4gk.lan> Yep...another problem accounted....laptop reload needed...software fault..no.....hardware problem...no.....female user problem..YES!!!!! John On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 14:55 +0000, David Holden wrote: > So no "Oven grill failover system" then? What kind of a slapdash > organisation is that! > > Dave. > > > On 07/03/12 14:47, Stuart Burns wrote: > > I thought I would share this with you guys. I can't cut and paste but I > > can relay the details and keep the offending parties anonymous (no, it > > wasn't me) > > > > We all know about Sev 1 priority action messages for when the poo really > > hits the fan, ie multi million pound system down. > > > > This morning in the global work queue we got a sev 1 alert message. > > "Toaster has caught fire, extinguished. Please replace." > > > > I think someone hit the wrong button. However, you can imagine the log > > comments:- > > > > "This is a production toaster. Toast making facilities impacted" > > > > "Work around identified - Argos @ £9.99" > > > > "Toaster dependent items impacted" > > > > As it was marked Sev 1 there was major incident management team braced > > for action, for a duff toaster. I don't think HP do toasters. > > > > Oh how we laughed this morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > From shop at open-t.co.uk Tue Mar 13 00:12:58 2012 From: shop at open-t.co.uk (Sebastian Arcus) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:12:58 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server Message-ID: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> I remember there being some talk at Liverpool LUG about a suitable machine for a low power home server. If anybody here is considering building a Linux server for either home or a small business, HP has this Proliant Microserver at only £159 (after cahsback). This includes a 250GB hard-disk and 2GB ECC memory! http://www.ebuyer.com/281915-hp-proliant-turion-ii-n40l-microserver-100-cashback-658553-421 It seems to me this would make a cracking Linux server for home or a small business. I'm not entirely sure why is it so cheap - specially as it has a server grade mobo and RAM. Too bad I'm not about to build any server for clients at the moment - I'm almost tempted to buy one and keep it just in case. No affiliation with HP or Ebuyer - I just thought somebody might benefit from the heads up. Sebastian From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 09:42:30 2012 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:42:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server In-Reply-To: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> References: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> Message-ID: I bought one of these the other day. I shoved an extra NIC in it along with 8 GB RAM. They are ok for small little boxes but if you plan to do anything that requires any moderate grunt, it's a not really up to it. Having said that, if you want low power and lots of space they are fine. Just remember you will have to do RAID in software (Unless you want to spend a few hundred on a P410 or similar) and computing the parity across a couple of RAID 5 disks sets underneath ISCSI was a killer. Regards Stuart On 13 March 2012 00:12, Sebastian Arcus wrote: > I remember there being some talk at Liverpool LUG about a suitable machine > for a low power home server. If anybody here is considering building a > Linux server for either home or a small business, HP has this Proliant > Microserver at only £159 (after cahsback). This includes a 250GB hard-disk > and 2GB ECC memory! > > http://www.ebuyer.com/281915-**hp-proliant-turion-ii-n40l-** > microserver-100-cashback-**658553-421 > > It seems to me this would make a cracking Linux server for home or a small > business. I'm not entirely sure why is it so cheap - specially as it has a > server grade mobo and RAM. Too bad I'm not about to build any server for > clients at the moment - I'm almost tempted to buy one and keep it just in > case. > > No affiliation with HP or Ebuyer - I just thought somebody might benefit > from the heads up. > > Sebastian > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shop at open-t.co.uk Tue Mar 13 10:56:22 2012 From: shop at open-t.co.uk (Sebastian Arcus) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:56:22 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F5F27CB.5080301@open-t.co.uk> Hi Stuart, Thanks for sharing your experience. I run a number servers made of old 500MHz-1.5GHz processors at several small businesses (up to 15 workstations per server) - doing imap and smtp email, samba file sharing, openvpn and even Asterisk for VoIP. I find that cpu load is not an issue. I usually use RAID-1 in software - and again, doesn't seem to generate much load. I'm interested if you hit any other downsides when working with this system. Regards, Sebastian On 13/03/12 09:42, Stuart Burns wrote: > I bought one of these the other day. I shoved an extra NIC in it along > with 8 GB RAM. They are ok for small little boxes but if you plan to do > anything that requires any moderate grunt, it's a not really up to it. > > Having said that, if you want low power and lots of space they are > fine. Just remember you will have to do RAID in software (Unless you > want to spend a few hundred on a P410 or similar) > and computing the parity across a couple of RAID 5 disks sets > underneath ISCSI was a killer. > > Regards > > Stuart > > > On 13 March 2012 00:12, Sebastian Arcus > wrote: > > I remember there being some talk at Liverpool LUG about a suitable > machine for a low power home server. If anybody here is considering > building a Linux server for either home or a small business, HP has > this Proliant Microserver at only £159 (after cahsback). This > includes a 250GB hard-disk and 2GB ECC memory! > > http://www.ebuyer.com/281915-__hp-proliant-turion-ii-n40l-__microserver-100-cashback-__658553-421 > > > It seems to me this would make a cracking Linux server for home or a > small business. I'm not entirely sure why is it so cheap - specially > as it has a server grade mobo and RAM. Too bad I'm not about to > build any server for clients at the moment - I'm almost tempted to > buy one and keep it just in case. > > No affiliation with HP or Ebuyer - I just thought somebody might > benefit from the heads up. > > Sebastian > > _________________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/__mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Linux vehicle CCTV - www.open-t.co.uk/iroko From les.pritchard at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 11:20:55 2012 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:20:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server In-Reply-To: <4F5F27CB.5080301@open-t.co.uk> References: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> <4F5F27CB.5080301@open-t.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Sebastian, I also bought one of these and upgraded it to 8gb (max RAM). The build quality is pretty good, they do feel like a HP device. As Stuart said, this box would work well for a NAS with FreeNAS or Nexenta on it. It has 4 drive bays so you could make a really nice small storage box with the OS on a USB stick. The CPU isn't up to doing SAN/iSCSI type work so I'd avoid that. I'm currently using the box with VMWare. I've moved a small collection of low CPU use VMs to it and they work fine. The box is pretty quiet, so if anyone needs a box to sit in the corner of their house it won't drive you crazy! Les On 13 March 2012 10:56, Sebastian Arcus wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks for sharing your experience. I run a number servers made of old > 500MHz-1.5GHz processors at several small businesses (up to 15 workstations > per server) - doing imap and smtp email, samba file sharing, openvpn and > even Asterisk for VoIP. I find that cpu load is not an issue. I usually use > RAID-1 in software - and again, doesn't seem to generate much load. > > I'm interested if you hit any other downsides when working with this system. > > Regards, > > Sebastian > > > > On 13/03/12 09:42, Stuart Burns wrote: >> >> I bought one of these the other day. I shoved an extra NIC in it along >> with 8 GB RAM. They are ok for small little boxes but if you plan to do >> anything that requires any moderate grunt, it's a not really up to it. >> >> Having said that, if you want low power and lots of space they are >> fine.  Just remember you will have to do RAID in software (Unless you >> want to spend a few hundred on a P410 or similar) >>  and computing the parity across a couple of RAID 5 disks sets >> underneath ISCSI was a killer. >> >> Regards >> >> Stuart >> >> >> On 13 March 2012 00:12, Sebastian Arcus > > wrote: >> >>    I remember there being some talk at Liverpool LUG about a suitable >>    machine for a low power home server. If anybody here is considering >>    building a Linux server for either home or a small business, HP has >>    this Proliant Microserver at only £159 (after cahsback). This >>    includes a 250GB hard-disk and 2GB ECC memory! >> >> >>  http://www.ebuyer.com/281915-__hp-proliant-turion-ii-n40l-__microserver-100-cashback-__658553-421 >> >> >>   >> >>    It seems to me this would make a cracking Linux server for home or a >>    small business. I'm not entirely sure why is it so cheap - specially >>    as it has a server grade mobo and RAM. Too bad I'm not about to >>    build any server for clients at the moment - I'm almost tempted to >>    buy one and keep it just in case. >> >>    No affiliation with HP or Ebuyer - I just thought somebody might >>    benefit from the heads up. >> >>    Sebastian >> >>    _________________________________________________ >>    Chester mailing list >>    Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>    https://mailman.lug.org.uk/__mailman/listinfo/chester >> >>     >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > -- > Linux vehicle CCTV - www.open-t.co.uk/iroko > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From shop at open-t.co.uk Tue Mar 13 11:32:17 2012 From: shop at open-t.co.uk (Sebastian Arcus) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:32:17 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> <4F5F27CB.5080301@open-t.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F5F3034.1010009@open-t.co.uk> Thanks Les. That's helpful advice. On 13/03/12 11:20, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > > I also bought one of these and upgraded it to 8gb (max RAM). The build > quality is pretty good, they do feel like a HP device. As Stuart said, > this box would work well for a NAS with FreeNAS or Nexenta on it. It > has 4 drive bays so you could make a really nice small storage box > with the OS on a USB stick. The CPU isn't up to doing SAN/iSCSI type > work so I'd avoid that. > > I'm currently using the box with VMWare. I've moved a small collection > of low CPU use VMs to it and they work fine. > > The box is pretty quiet, so if anyone needs a box to sit in the corner > of their house it won't drive you crazy! > > Les > > On 13 March 2012 10:56, Sebastian Arcus wrote: >> Hi Stuart, >> >> Thanks for sharing your experience. I run a number servers made of old >> 500MHz-1.5GHz processors at several small businesses (up to 15 workstations >> per server) - doing imap and smtp email, samba file sharing, openvpn and >> even Asterisk for VoIP. I find that cpu load is not an issue. I usually use >> RAID-1 in software - and again, doesn't seem to generate much load. >> >> I'm interested if you hit any other downsides when working with this system. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >> On 13/03/12 09:42, Stuart Burns wrote: >>> >>> I bought one of these the other day. I shoved an extra NIC in it along >>> with 8 GB RAM. They are ok for small little boxes but if you plan to do >>> anything that requires any moderate grunt, it's a not really up to it. >>> >>> Having said that, if you want low power and lots of space they are >>> fine. Just remember you will have to do RAID in software (Unless you >>> want to spend a few hundred on a P410 or similar) >>> and computing the parity across a couple of RAID 5 disks sets >>> underneath ISCSI was a killer. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> >>> On 13 March 2012 00:12, Sebastian Arcus>> > wrote: >>> >>> I remember there being some talk at Liverpool LUG about a suitable >>> machine for a low power home server. If anybody here is considering >>> building a Linux server for either home or a small business, HP has >>> this Proliant Microserver at only £159 (after cahsback). This >>> includes a 250GB hard-disk and 2GB ECC memory! >>> >>> >>> http://www.ebuyer.com/281915-__hp-proliant-turion-ii-n40l-__microserver-100-cashback-__658553-421 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> It seems to me this would make a cracking Linux server for home or a >>> small business. I'm not entirely sure why is it so cheap - specially >>> as it has a server grade mobo and RAM. Too bad I'm not about to >>> build any server for clients at the moment - I'm almost tempted to >>> buy one and keep it just in case. >>> >>> No affiliation with HP or Ebuyer - I just thought somebody might >>> benefit from the heads up. >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/__mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> -- >> Linux vehicle CCTV - www.open-t.co.uk/iroko >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Linux vehicle CCTV - www.open-t.co.uk/iroko From mrcrilly at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 13:17:01 2012 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:17:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server In-Reply-To: <4F5F3034.1010009@open-t.co.uk> References: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> <4F5F27CB.5080301@open-t.co.uk> <4F5F3034.1010009@open-t.co.uk> Message-ID: I want to buy one of these, but I want to use it as an RHCE lab - will it handle KVM-based VMs? Maybe 4/5 of them with an 8GB RAM upgrade? Please note, everyone, that the cashback offer is only valid until 31st March. On 13 March 2012 11:32, Sebastian Arcus wrote: > Thanks Les. That's helpful advice. > > > > > On 13/03/12 11:20, Les Pritchard wrote: >> >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> I also bought one of these and upgraded it to 8gb (max RAM). The build >> quality is pretty good, they do feel like a HP device. As Stuart said, >> this box would work well for a NAS with FreeNAS or Nexenta on it. It >> has 4 drive bays so you could make a really nice small storage box >> with the OS on a USB stick. The CPU isn't up to doing SAN/iSCSI type >> work so I'd avoid that. >> >> I'm currently using the box with VMWare. I've moved a small collection >> of low CPU use VMs to it and they work fine. >> >> The box is pretty quiet, so if anyone needs a box to sit in the corner >> of their house it won't drive you crazy! >> >> Les >> >> On 13 March 2012 10:56, Sebastian Arcus  wrote: >>> >>> Hi Stuart, >>> >>> Thanks for sharing your experience. I run a number servers made of old >>> 500MHz-1.5GHz processors at several small businesses (up to 15 >>> workstations >>> per server) - doing imap and smtp email, samba file sharing, openvpn and >>> even Asterisk for VoIP. I find that cpu load is not an issue. I usually >>> use >>> RAID-1 in software - and again, doesn't seem to generate much load. >>> >>> I'm interested if you hit any other downsides when working with this >>> system. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13/03/12 09:42, Stuart Burns wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I bought one of these the other day. I shoved an extra NIC in it along >>>> with 8 GB RAM. They are ok for small little boxes but if you plan to do >>>> anything that requires any moderate grunt, it's a not really up to it. >>>> >>>> Having said that, if you want low power and lots of space they are >>>> fine.  Just remember you will have to do RAID in software (Unless you >>>> want to spend a few hundred on a P410 or similar) >>>>  and computing the parity across a couple of RAID 5 disks sets >>>> underneath ISCSI was a killer. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Stuart >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 March 2012 00:12, Sebastian Arcus>>> >  wrote: >>>> >>>>    I remember there being some talk at Liverpool LUG about a suitable >>>>    machine for a low power home server. If anybody here is considering >>>>    building a Linux server for either home or a small business, HP has >>>>    this Proliant Microserver at only £159 (after cahsback). This >>>>    includes a 250GB hard-disk and 2GB ECC memory! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>  http://www.ebuyer.com/281915-__hp-proliant-turion-ii-n40l-__microserver-100-cashback-__658553-421 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>   >>>> >>>>    It seems to me this would make a cracking Linux server for home or a >>>>    small business. I'm not entirely sure why is it so cheap - specially >>>>    as it has a server grade mobo and RAM. Too bad I'm not about to >>>>    build any server for clients at the moment - I'm almost tempted to >>>>    buy one and keep it just in case. >>>> >>>>    No affiliation with HP or Ebuyer - I just thought somebody might >>>>    benefit from the heads up. >>>> >>>>    Sebastian >>>> >>>>    _________________________________________________ >>>>    Chester mailing list >>>>    Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>    https://mailman.lug.org.uk/__mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>>     >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Linux vehicle CCTV - www.open-t.co.uk/iroko >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > -- > Linux vehicle CCTV - www.open-t.co.uk/iroko > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- - Crilly From joe.foy at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 13:31:23 2012 From: joe.foy at gmail.com (Joe Foy) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:31:23 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Slightly OT: perfect little machine for a low(ish) power Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <4F5E9102.90904@open-t.co.uk> <4F5F27CB.5080301@open-t.co.uk> <4F5F3034.1010009@open-t.co.uk> Message-ID: Since it uses an AMD CPU it should, all AMD's have virtualisation extentions as far as I remember. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 13 March 2012 13:31, Joe Foy wrote: > Since it uses an AMD CPU it should, all AMD's have virtualisation > extentions as far as I remember. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk Tue Mar 13 17:04:02 2012 From: mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk (mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:04:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Is this what Linux is up against? Message-ID: <28363713.3374891331658213408.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Having experienced some trouble viewing a web site with my current version of Firefox, I sent this company a note, mentioning my Firefox was running on Linux OS. I suggested they, if they want their web site to be universal, they ought to test it with Linux. This is their reply. > >As much as we would like to have a truly universal offering, due to >Linux OS having a market share of below 2%, which would be likely be >much lower among Skandia users, it would not make sense from a >development point of view to build, test and support. What we are in >the process of is completely re-building our Client extranet to be >browser impendent, incorporating the latest web standards which should >ensure our users have a seamless experience regardless of browser and in >theory OS. > >Apologies for not being able to accommodate your request currently, >however I'm sure as open-source OS gains usage we will review this in >the future. > >Regards From mrcrilly at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:09:58 2012 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:58 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Is this what Linux is up against? In-Reply-To: <28363713.3374891331658213408.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <28363713.3374891331658213408.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: This boils down to poor web development and a "in the moment" mind set, instead of looking to the future. It's common these days, with people developing web based applications to target an OS and or browser. Sadly, with the influx of poor developers from various underdeveloped nations, who just slap something together, you're going to find poor quality applications all over the place and more commonly, too. Roll on HTML5. Michael Crilly Linux Engineer On 13 Mar 2012, at 17:03, "mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk" wrote: > Having experienced some trouble viewing a web site with my current version of > Firefox, I sent this company a note, mentioning my Firefox was running on Linux > OS. I suggested they, if they want their web site to be universal, they ought > to test it with Linux. This is their reply. > > >> >> As much as we would like to > have a truly universal offering, due to >> Linux OS having a market share of > below 2%, which would be likely be >> much lower among Skandia users, it would > not make sense from a >> development point of view to build, test and support. > What we are in >> the process of is completely re-building our Client extranet to > be >> browser impendent, incorporating the latest web standards which should > >> ensure our users have a seamless experience regardless of browser and in > >> theory OS. >> >> Apologies for not being able to accommodate your request > currently, >> however I'm sure as open-source OS gains usage we will review this > in >> the future. >> >> Regards > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From dh at iucr.org Wed Mar 14 10:53:49 2012 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:53:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Is this what Linux is up against? In-Reply-To: References: <28363713.3374891331658213408.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: <4F6078B7.8090408@iucr.org> But is this a Linux issue or a Firefox issue. Because Firefox's market share is certainly more than 2%. If it's a Firefox on Linux issue and not a Firefox on Windows issue then the blame may not entirely be theirs Dave. On 13/03/12 20:09, Michael Crilly wrote: > This boils down to poor web development and a "in the moment" mind set, instead of looking to the future. It's common these days, with people developing web based applications to target an OS and or browser. > > Sadly, with the influx of poor developers from various underdeveloped nations, who just slap something together, you're going to find poor quality applications all over the place and more commonly, too. > > Roll on HTML5. > > Michael Crilly > Linux Engineer > > On 13 Mar 2012, at 17:03, "mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk" wrote: > >> Having experienced some trouble viewing a web site with my current version of >> Firefox, I sent this company a note, mentioning my Firefox was running on Linux >> OS. I suggested they, if they want their web site to be universal, they ought >> to test it with Linux. This is their reply. >> >> >>> >>> As much as we would like to >> have a truly universal offering, due to >>> Linux OS having a market share of >> below 2%, which would be likely be >>> much lower among Skandia users, it would >> not make sense from a >>> development point of view to build, test and support. >> What we are in >>> the process of is completely re-building our Client extranet to >> be >>> browser impendent, incorporating the latest web standards which should >> >>> ensure our users have a seamless experience regardless of browser and in >> >>> theory OS. >>> >>> Apologies for not being able to accommodate your request >> currently, >>> however I'm sure as open-source OS gains usage we will review this >> in >>> the future. >>> >>> Regards >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From rah at bash.sh Wed Mar 14 18:43:56 2012 From: rah at bash.sh (Bob Ham) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:43:56 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Is this what Linux is up against? In-Reply-To: <28363713.3374891331658213408.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <28363713.3374891331658213408.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: <1331750630.13746.7.camel@myrtle.6gnip.net> On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 17:03 +0000, mark_kh at tiscali.co.uk wrote: > >As much as we would like to > have a truly universal offering, due to > >Linux OS having a market share of > below 2%, which would be likely be > >much lower among Skandia users, it would > not make sense from a > >development point of view to build, test and support. Yes. This is what we're up against. -- Bob Ham for (;;) { ++pancakes; } -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's a job vacancy for a Linux web server admin in Liverpool city centre at a bookmakers from the looks of it. Make of that what you will, it seems a reputable company. A description from the email: *"My company is looking for an extra Linux admin. The work is shifts but for the initial period it is 8.30 - 17:00 when they would be trained up on the systems we use. We run debian servers and nagios monitoring tool, looking for the standard sort of experience ( DNS, apache, nagios, debian, etc). Salary is competitive depending on experience ( on call bonus ) and we are based just up the road from Moorfields".* Desired Knowledge / Experience * HP hardware * Debian Lenny / Squeeze * Postgres SQL * Apache / TomCat web server * DHCP / DNS * NetVault / Backup Exec Backup software * SAMBA / NFS * Nagios Monitoring Interested parties should email: recruitment at stanleybet.com Or contact Tony J, the person who originally emailed me. He's recently moved to Liverpool: apjone at googlemail.com There you go, I said I would pass it on. I don't know much more about it but their domain redirects here and it seems the company is based in Tithebarn Street, L2 2QP. I don't know if the post has been advertised or not. Up to you to investigate more. Hope it's of interest to someone, cheers, Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rah at bash.sh Fri Mar 23 07:09:45 2012 From: rah at bash.sh (Bob Ham) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 07:09:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [Liverpool] Liverpool LUG social - Saturday 24th March 2012 Message-ID: Just a reminder that this is happening tomorrow. On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 23:34 +0000, Bob Ham wrote: > On Saturday, 24th [March] 2012, the Liverpool Linux User Group will > be meeting. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Stu On 23 March 2012 07:09, Bob Ham wrote: > Just a reminder that this is happening tomorrow. > > On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 23:34 +0000, Bob Ham wrote: > > On Saturday, 24th [March] 2012, the Liverpool Linux User Group will > > be meeting. > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at danlynch.org Fri Mar 23 19:35:13 2012 From: dan at danlynch.org (Dan Lynch) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:35:13 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] [Liverpool] Liverpool LUG social - Saturday 24th March 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Studio 2 definitely has wifi. That shouldn't be a problem. Dan On Mar 23, 2012 7:11 PM, "Stuart Burns" wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to attend but I have changes that need to happen at 2pm and I am > "it" ie the poor sod on call... Do they have wireless there so I am able to > attend and discretely do my changes? > > Cheers > > Stu > > On 23 March 2012 07:09, Bob Ham wrote: > >> Just a reminder that this is happening tomorrow. >> >> On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 23:34 +0000, Bob Ham wrote: >> > On Saturday, 24th [March] 2012, the Liverpool Linux User Group will >> > be meeting. >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Les From veedub at linuxmail.org Mon Mar 26 14:49:52 2012 From: veedub at linuxmail.org (John) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:49:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1332773382.5040.0.camel@linux-x4gk.lan> Will be missing...off to a concert! John On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 15:00 +0100, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the > Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will > be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! > > See you there. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 15:00:24 2012 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:00:24 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I shall be going, so see you there! Dan did say me may be able to attend also (but I shall leave that for him to confirm) Regards Stuart On 26 March 2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the > Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will > be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! > > See you there. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcgibson at talktalk.net Mon Mar 26 15:04:36 2012 From: rcgibson at talktalk.net (Roger Gibson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:04:36 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F708567.20102@talktalk.net> Sorry, I'm already going to a concert - Roger. On 26/03/2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the > Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will > be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! > > See you there. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 15:09:48 2012 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:09:48 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: <4F708567.20102@talktalk.net> References: <4F708567.20102@talktalk.net> Message-ID: Dare I ask which concert is so popular? It's not dancing on ice is it ;) On 26 March 2012 16:04, Roger Gibson wrote: > Sorry, I'm already going to a concert - Roger. > > > On 26/03/2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the >> Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will >> be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! >> >> See you there. >> >> Les >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -- > > > > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All being well, we will >>> be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! >>> >>> See you there. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > From dan at danlynch.org Mon Mar 26 16:02:54 2012 From: dan at danlynch.org (Dan Lynch) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:02:54 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG Social In-Reply-To: References: <4F708567.20102@talktalk.net> Message-ID: Yeah I caught up with Stu at the weekend and I have a free Thursday night for once. I haven't been in ages so I really should address that. Hope to see some of you there :) Dan On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: > Tux on ice(WM) :-) > > On 26 March 2012 16:09, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Dare I ask which concert is so popular? It's not dancing on ice is it ;) > > > > > > On 26 March 2012 16:04, Roger Gibson wrote: > >> > >> Sorry, I'm already going to a concert - Roger. > >> > >> > >> On 26/03/2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the > >>> Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will > >>> be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! > >>> > >>> See you there. > >>> > >>> Les > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chester mailing list > >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Stuart Burns > > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > > M: [redacted] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's not dancing on ice is it ;) > > > On 26 March 2012 16:04, Roger Gibson wrote: >> >> Sorry, I'm already going to a concert - Roger. >> >> >> On 26/03/2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the >>> Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will >>> be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! >>> >>> See you there. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 26 March 2012 18:32, Paul Williams wrote: > I'm hoping to make it as well this time! > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:02:52 +0100 > From: dan at danlynch.org > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] LUG Social > > > Yeah I caught up with Stu at the weekend and I have a free Thursday night > for once. I haven't been in ages so I really should address that. Hope to > see some of you there :) > > Dan > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Tux on ice(WM) :-) > > On 26 March 2012 16:09, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Dare I ask which concert is so popular? It's not dancing on ice is it ;) > > > > > > On 26 March 2012 16:04, Roger Gibson wrote: > >> > >> Sorry, I'm already going to a concert - Roger. > >> > >> > >> On 26/03/2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> The next LUG social will be this Thursday evening from 7pm in the > >>> Falcon pub at the top of Lower Bridge Street. All being well, we will > >>> be upstairs, even thought the sign says it's closed! > >>> > >>> See you there. > >>> > >>> Les > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chester mailing list > >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Stuart Burns > > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > > M: [redacted] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 14:14:39 2012 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:14:39 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Reminder - LUG meet tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He he, I'll see if they can build one by tonight :-) On 29 March 2012 15:13, Stuart Burns wrote: > I think we need to ask for a beer garden :) > > On 29 March 2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: >> >> Just a quick reminder that the next LUG meet is being held tonight at >> the Falcon pub on Lower Bridge Street. We'll be upstairs, even if the >> sign says that it's closed! >> >> Thanks >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 14:20:03 2012 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:20:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] VP-D on Intel arch Message-ID: Hiya, Does anyone know anything about this. We are having issues with some HP DL 580 G7s with bus enumeration and someone at HP suggested turning off VP-D. I've never heard of it, and it seems neither has google. 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Hope to be there next time Paul > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:14:33 +0100 > From: les.pritchard at gmail.com > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Reminder - LUG meet tonight > > He he, I'll see if they can build one by tonight :-) > > On 29 March 2012 15:13, Stuart Burns wrote: > > I think we need to ask for a beer garden :) > > > > On 29 March 2012 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> > >> Just a quick reminder that the next LUG meet is being held tonight at > >> the Falcon pub on Lower Bridge Street. We'll be upstairs, even if the > >> sign says that it's closed! > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Les > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Stuart Burns > > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > > M: [redacted] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 16:06:29 2012 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:06:29 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Reminder - LUG meet tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry to hear that Paul, you're family have had a rough time recently. Take care and hopefully we'll see you again soon. Les On Thursday, March 29, 2012, Paul Williams wrote: > Change of plan for me. I said I was going to go, but I've got a doozy of > an excuse this time. > > My Father-in-Law passed away at about 8.30 this morning. So as you can > expect, it's put a bit of a spanner in the works. > > Hope to be there next time > > > Paul > > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:14:33 +0100 > > From: les.pritchard at gmail.com 'les.pritchard at gmail.com');> > > To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk 'chester at mailman.lug.org.uk');> > > Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Reminder - LUG meet tonight > > > > He he, I'll see if they can build one by tonight :-) > > > > On 29 March 2012 15:13, Stuart Burns > > wrote: > > > I think we need to ask for a beer garden :) > > > > > > On 29 March 2012 15:00, Les Pritchard > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Just a quick reminder that the next LUG meet is being held tonight at > > >> the Falcon pub on Lower Bridge Street. We'll be upstairs, even if the > > >> sign says that it's closed! > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Les > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Chester mailing list > > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk 'Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk');> > > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Stuart Burns > > > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com 'stuart.james.burns at gmail.com');> > > > M: [redacted] > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Chester mailing list > > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk 'Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk');> > > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk 'Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk');> > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 07:32:05 2012 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:32:05 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Failed Taxidermy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very good, I think the squirrel should be the new Linux Outlaws logo :-) On 29 March 2012 22:26, Paul Williams wrote: > My google+ page has a new folder entitled "failed taxidermy" in my photos. > Have a look.  It's listed publicly so you shouldn't have to worry about > adding me if you don't want to... > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/102730807542350921294/albums/5725428865460091969 > > > I hope that link worked. > > If not, let me know and I'll see if I can send you them somehow... > > > Paul (williams). > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > From dan at danlynch.org Fri Mar 30 10:10:12 2012 From: dan at danlynch.org (Dan Lynch) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:10:12 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Failed Taxidermy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're the second person to say that now Les. Maybe it's a sign :) Dan On Mar 30, 2012 8:32 AM, "Les Pritchard" wrote: > Very good, I think the squirrel should be the new Linux Outlaws logo :-) > > On 29 March 2012 22:26, Paul Williams wrote: > > My google+ page has a new folder entitled "failed taxidermy" in my > photos. > > Have a look. It's listed publicly so you shouldn't have to worry about > > adding me if you don't want to... > > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/102730807542350921294/albums/5725428865460091969 > > > > > > I hope that link worked. > > > > If not, let me know and I'll see if I can send you them somehow... > > > > > > Paul (williams). > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The addition of musical numbers was surprising but welcome and really added to the drama. I don't mind admitting that I shed a tear during the haunting ballad 'The IP Address To My Heart', and how he got those dancing elephants down the stairs I'll never know. Outstanding!". Ok, joking aside I'm sure it'll be a great night so do come and join us. If you haven't been before don't worry, the group is informal and very friendly. All are welcome, from complete novice to Kernel hacker. We'll no doubt adjourn to a nearby pub after the talk too. If you can bring a camera along we'd appreciate it. There's a dearth of photos from LivLUG and we could really use some to promote the group online. So this is a call to arms. Thanks in advance. Hope to see many of you there, Dan Lynch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: