From les.pritchard at gmail.com Tue Oct 1 11:50:01 2013 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:50:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Yesterday's meeting In-Reply-To: <5245DB20.3000206@btinternet.com> References: <5245DB20.3000206@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hi Nic, Really sorry to hear you didn't see anyone there. It was a very unusual month where everyone seemed to be busy with something unfortunately, so I'm sorry for your wasted time. It would be good to see you next month. With regard to your laptop problems, there is a chance that your chip has failed but it could well be a driver issue. I've very limited experience with Dell laptops and Linux so can't really offer many suggestions, but have you tried booting some alternative distro live cds? In the past I've got lucky finding a distro that seems happy with problematic wireless cards. Les On 27 September 2013 20:23, Nic Deane wrote: > Dear Les, > > I went to the Rake and Pikel last night but was a little late - arriving > about 8 pm. The landlord was very friendly and gave me the Wifi code so I > could get on and do a bit of work and enjoy a bitter while I waited. > Obviously, last night didn't work for folk because no-one else turned up - > but maybe next month..... > > Anyway, I wonder if anyone could give me a bit of advice? Steve very > kindly sorted out my little Samsung NC110 (Korean keyboard) netbook a month > or so ago and it worked brilliantly while we were in the States. > It's still working brilliantly - and I'm so glad that all my files are on > it because...but now I have a problem with my other Linux Mint laptop - a > Dell Inspiron 1564. If I didn't have my trusty little netbook I would > really be in trouble!! > > I run Mint 15 Cinnamon on my Dell 1564 - Microsoft free - and everything's > been great until last week. For some reason my wireless seems to have > packed up. The other two computers in the house (my wife's Windows Dell > 1764 and my little Samsung) don't have any problems connecting wirelessly > to our BT broadband hub, however, my Dell Inspiron 1564 does! > > I know the Broadcom B4312 chip can be a bit problematical and so I've > tried to go through all the ideas on the forums - including downloading the > Sourceforge bcm4312.deb package and applying it. This seems to be the best > thing but it just keeps trying to connect to my BT hub - and failing. > However, it's better than any of the other alternatives I've been trying > fruitlessly for the last three days. They were all saying 'out of range' > (e.g. purging bcmwl-kernel-source and installing > firmware-b43-lpphy-installer or doing the opposite and re-installing > bcmwl-kernel-source!). Maybe like the problem Steve solved there's an easy > answer but I just can't see it! > > Can the Broadcom chip fail and completely pack up? Is this my problem? > > Any wise advice would be most welcome! > > Many thanks in advance, > > Nic Deane > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at gmail.com Tue Oct 1 12:16:51 2013 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:16:51 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Yesterday's meeting In-Reply-To: References: <5245DB20.3000206@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hey Nic, In the event the chip has failed, they can usually be swapped out easily and pretty cheap. Have you considered buying a new chip? -MC On 1 October 2013 12:49, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Really sorry to hear you didn't see anyone there. It was a very unusual > month where everyone seemed to be busy with something unfortunately, so I'm > sorry for your wasted time. It would be good to see you next month. > > With regard to your laptop problems, there is a chance that your chip has > failed but it could well be a driver issue. I've very limited experience > with Dell laptops and Linux so can't really offer many suggestions, but > have you tried booting some alternative distro live cds? In the past I've > got lucky finding a distro that seems happy with problematic wireless cards. > > Les > > > On 27 September 2013 20:23, Nic Deane wrote: > >> Dear Les, >> >> I went to the Rake and Pikel last night but was a little late - arriving >> about 8 pm. The landlord was very friendly and gave me the Wifi code so I >> could get on and do a bit of work and enjoy a bitter while I waited. >> Obviously, last night didn't work for folk because no-one else turned up - >> but maybe next month..... >> >> Anyway, I wonder if anyone could give me a bit of advice? Steve very >> kindly sorted out my little Samsung NC110 (Korean keyboard) netbook a month >> or so ago and it worked brilliantly while we were in the States. >> It's still working brilliantly - and I'm so glad that all my files are on >> it because...but now I have a problem with my other Linux Mint laptop - a >> Dell Inspiron 1564. If I didn't have my trusty little netbook I would >> really be in trouble!! >> >> I run Mint 15 Cinnamon on my Dell 1564 - Microsoft free - and >> everything's been great until last week. For some reason my wireless seems >> to have packed up. The other two computers in the house (my wife's Windows >> Dell 1764 and my little Samsung) don't have any problems connecting >> wirelessly to our BT broadband hub, however, my Dell Inspiron 1564 does! >> >> I know the Broadcom B4312 chip can be a bit problematical and so I've >> tried to go through all the ideas on the forums - including downloading the >> Sourceforge bcm4312.deb package and applying it. This seems to be the best >> thing but it just keeps trying to connect to my BT hub - and failing. >> However, it's better than any of the other alternatives I've been trying >> fruitlessly for the last three days. They were all saying 'out of range' >> (e.g. purging bcmwl-kernel-source and installing >> firmware-b43-lpphy-installer or doing the opposite and re-installing >> bcmwl-kernel-source!). Maybe like the problem Steve solved there's an easy >> answer but I just can't see it! >> >> Can the Broadcom chip fail and completely pack up? Is this my problem? >> >> Any wise advice would be most welcome! >> >> Many thanks in advance, >> >> Nic Deane >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Michael C. http://mcrilly.me/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.lilley at nohp.com Tue Oct 1 13:44:55 2013 From: steve.lilley at nohp.com (Steve Lilley) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:44:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Chester Digest, Vol 295, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nic You can always pop down to the office again, here most of this week just let me know when suits you. Regards Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nic.deane at btinternet.com Wed Oct 2 08:16:11 2013 From: nic.deane at btinternet.com (Nic Deane) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:16:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Chester Digest, Vol 295, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <524BD641.10500@btinternet.com> Steve, Thank you very much for your quick reply - along with Les and Michael to my plea for help. I switched my Dell laptop on this morning and it seemed to connect to our hub but when I tried to connect through Firefox or Thunderbird it returned to 'out of range' - no connection. I am free this afternoon or Friday. When would be convenient to call by with you again? Many thanks, again, Nic On 01/10/13 14:44, Steve Lilley wrote: > Nic > > You can always pop down to the office again, here most of this week > just let me know when suits you. > > Regards > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nic.deane at btinternet.com Wed Oct 2 08:18:54 2013 From: nic.deane at btinternet.com (Nic Deane) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:18:54 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Yesterday's meeting In-Reply-To: References: <5245DB20.3000206@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <524BD6E5.5050707@btinternet.com> Deear Michael, Many thanks for your reply. I've e-mailed Steve with the possibility of meeting up today or Friday. Thanks for your advice on possibly buying a new chip and swapping it. We'll see if that is necessary. Many thanks for your kind reply! Nic On 01/10/13 13:16, Michael Crilly wrote: > Hey Nic, > > In the event the chip has failed, they can usually be swapped out > easily and pretty cheap. Have you considered buying a new chip? > > -MC > > > On 1 October 2013 12:49, Les Pritchard > wrote: > > Hi Nic, > > Really sorry to hear you didn't see anyone there. It was a very > unusual month where everyone seemed to be busy with something > unfortunately, so I'm sorry for your wasted time. It would be good > to see you next month. > > With regard to your laptop problems, there is a chance that your > chip has failed but it could well be a driver issue. I've very > limited experience with Dell laptops and Linux so can't really > offer many suggestions, but have you tried booting some > alternative distro live cds? In the past I've got lucky finding a > distro that seems happy with problematic wireless cards. > > Les > > > On 27 September 2013 20:23, Nic Deane > wrote: > > Dear Les, > > I went to the Rake and Pikel last night but was a little late > - arriving about 8 pm. The landlord was very friendly and gave > me the Wifi code so I could get on and do a bit of work and > enjoy a bitter while I waited. Obviously, last night didn't > work for folk because no-one else turned up - but maybe next > month..... > > Anyway, I wonder if anyone could give me a bit of advice? > Steve very kindly sorted out my little Samsung NC110 (Korean > keyboard) netbook a month or so ago and it worked brilliantly > while we were in the States. > It's still working brilliantly - and I'm so glad that all my > files are on it because...but now I have a problem with my > other Linux Mint laptop - a Dell Inspiron 1564. If I didn't > have my trusty little netbook I would really be in trouble!! > > I run Mint 15 Cinnamon on my Dell 1564 - Microsoft free - and > everything's been great until last week. For some reason my > wireless seems to have packed up. The other two computers in > the house (my wife's Windows Dell 1764 and my little Samsung) > don't have any problems connecting wirelessly to our BT > broadband hub, however, my Dell Inspiron 1564 does! > > I know the Broadcom B4312 chip can be a bit problematical and > so I've tried to go through all the ideas on the forums - > including downloading the Sourceforge bcm4312.deb package and > applying it. This seems to be the best thing but it just keeps > trying to connect to my BT hub - and failing. However, it's > better than any of the other alternatives I've been trying > fruitlessly for the last three days. They were all saying 'out > of range' (e.g. purging bcmwl-kernel-source and installing > firmware-b43-lpphy-installer or doing the opposite and > re-installing bcmwl-kernel-source!). Maybe like the problem > Steve solved there's an easy answer but I just can't see it! > > Can the Broadcom chip fail and completely pack up? Is this my > problem? > > Any wise advice would be most welcome! > > Many thanks in advance, > > Nic Deane > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Michael C. > http://mcrilly.me/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nic.deane at btinternet.com Wed Oct 2 08:21:03 2013 From: nic.deane at btinternet.com (Nic Deane) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:21:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Yesterday's meeting In-Reply-To: References: <5245DB20.3000206@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <524BD762.5050006@btinternet.com> Dear Les, Many thanks for your reply! I hope to pop by Steve in the next few days and we'll see if we can trace my problem to its source and go from there. Hope to meet up with you all sometime. Nic On 01/10/13 12:49, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Really sorry to hear you didn't see anyone there. It was a very > unusual month where everyone seemed to be busy with something > unfortunately, so I'm sorry for your wasted time. It would be good to > see you next month. > > With regard to your laptop problems, there is a chance that your chip > has failed but it could well be a driver issue. I've very limited > experience with Dell laptops and Linux so can't really offer many > suggestions, but have you tried booting some alternative distro live > cds? In the past I've got lucky finding a distro that seems happy with > problematic wireless cards. > > Les > > > On 27 September 2013 20:23, Nic Deane > wrote: > > Dear Les, > > I went to the Rake and Pikel last night but was a little late - > arriving about 8 pm. The landlord was very friendly and gave me > the Wifi code so I could get on and do a bit of work and enjoy a > bitter while I waited. Obviously, last night didn't work for folk > because no-one else turned up - but maybe next month..... > > Anyway, I wonder if anyone could give me a bit of advice? Steve > very kindly sorted out my little Samsung NC110 (Korean keyboard) > netbook a month or so ago and it worked brilliantly while we were > in the States. > It's still working brilliantly - and I'm so glad that all my files > are on it because...but now I have a problem with my other Linux > Mint laptop - a Dell Inspiron 1564. If I didn't have my trusty > little netbook I would really be in trouble!! > > I run Mint 15 Cinnamon on my Dell 1564 - Microsoft free - and > everything's been great until last week. For some reason my > wireless seems to have packed up. The other two computers in the > house (my wife's Windows Dell 1764 and my little Samsung) don't > have any problems connecting wirelessly to our BT broadband hub, > however, my Dell Inspiron 1564 does! > > I know the Broadcom B4312 chip can be a bit problematical and so > I've tried to go through all the ideas on the forums - including > downloading the Sourceforge bcm4312.deb package and applying it. > This seems to be the best thing but it just keeps trying to > connect to my BT hub - and failing. However, it's better than any > of the other alternatives I've been trying fruitlessly for the > last three days. They were all saying 'out of range' (e.g. purging > bcmwl-kernel-source and installing firmware-b43-lpphy-installer or > doing the opposite and re-installing bcmwl-kernel-source!). Maybe > like the problem Steve solved there's an easy answer but I just > can't see it! > > Can the Broadcom chip fail and completely pack up? Is this my problem? > > Any wise advice would be most welcome! > > Many thanks in advance, > > Nic Deane > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Tue Oct 8 09:42:43 2013 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:42:43 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Port forwarding to pfSense for VPN Message-ID: Hi Guys, I am after a bit of advice on VPNs and port forwarding. I haven't ever set it up this way but before I spend hours on it I am wondering if anyone has any similar experiences/helpful advice. I have my Virgin Media home hub and the wireless etc works fine, not an issue. However I really want to setup a VPN so I can log in to my network. I don't want to turn the router into a pass through modem box and buy additional hardware. So my question can really be broken down into a couple of parts. Firstly, if I have my VPN based on pfsense, virtualised and set port forwarding for VPN ports into my virtual infrastructure, would that work ? Secondly, is there a way round the dns changing etc and would a no-ip service be able to work if it was port forwarded? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at gmail.com Tue Oct 8 22:14:21 2013 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:14:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Port forwarding to pfSense for VPN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The port forwarding should work fine. Just make sure the internal system as a non-DHCP assigned IP in case it cycles. The dynamic IP issue can be resolved in multiple ways. You can use a service like dynamic DNS or you can do what I do, and run a cron job from an internal server which executes a Python script. This script then calls icanhazip.com (curl -4s icanhazip.com for your IPv4 address, for example) and then updates a DNS record's A record via the Gandi(.net) API, but only if the IP has changed. With a very low TTL, this effectively eliminates the dynamic IP issue. Use a dynamic DNS/no-IP service will work fine in conjunction with port forwarding as long as your forwarding rules don't rely on the external IP being a specific value. Hope this helps. -MC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Oct 10 17:52:12 2013 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:52:12 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] The Wikileaks movie Message-ID: Hiya, Anyone fancy going to watch this ? 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URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Mon Oct 14 11:59:53 2013 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:59:53 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Fwd: [linuxjobs] Weekend Support Engineer role In-Reply-To: <5A67AE38-B667-49B9-BDA3-098CA03AEDD7@siriusopensource.com> References: <5A67AE38-B667-49B9-BDA3-098CA03AEDD7@siriusopensource.com> Message-ID: Work from home Linux tech support job. A rarity, but may be of interest to someone ? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kelly Taylor Date: 14 October 2013 12:30 Subject: [linuxjobs] Weekend Support Engineer role To: "linuxjobs at mailman.lug.org.uk" Hello, Are you looking to earn a bit more money but can't be tied down to a full time role? Sirius are looking to recruit an experienced support engineer to join our expanding team. You can work from the comfort of your own home as the work can be done remotely. All you need is a phone, laptop/PC and internet connection. Hours of work are Saturday and Sunday 9am-5.30pm with overtime available if you wish. Details are below, if you are interested then please e mail your cv to kelly.taylor at siriusopensource.com. Our Support Engineers provide comprehensive telephone/web/e-mail/chat technical and application support to Sirius customers. You are expected to be able to work directly with customers in high-pressure situations; have strong analytic, organizational, time management, and communication skills; thrive in a team environment; and possess the willingness to do whatever it takes to achieve the highest customer satisfaction. You will interact with development and project teams to investigate and resolve issues. The job responsibilities include, but are not limited to: - analyse, track and resolve customer issues in a professional, timely manner - identify any security upgrades that are necessary and communicate them to customers - maintain and update web based support documentation - use monitoring software to identify potential support issues Requirements: - Experience working with Open Source technologies - Excellent verbal and written communication skills - Outstanding interpersonal and telephone skills - Strong problem solving skills - Ability to function and thrive in a team environment - Energetic, with a strong desire to succeed - Strong customer service background would be ideal Salary is based on experience. Kelly Taylor, Account Manager Sirius- Stress Free Technology http://www.siriusopensource.com Tel: +44 (0)870 608 0063 _______________________________________________ linuxjobs mailing list linuxjobs at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Oct 16 15:43:54 2013 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:43:54 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp Message-ID: Hi all, The last Thursday of October falls on Halloween, so I'm expecting that most pubs will have something on that evening. That combined with my expectation that a few members may be doing something that night (I mean the ones who have kids, not the ugly ones getting free sweets :-)) it has been suggested that we perhaps cancel this month's meet and replace it with the trip to OggCamp this weekend. I'm going to be catching the train from Chester, so if we want to meet and head up together that would be good. Les -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BenArnold at fsfe.org Thu Oct 17 13:05:14 2013 From: BenArnold at fsfe.org (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:05:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Les & t'others, I plan on doing the Saturday, but am working Sunday morning/afternoon :( I may be able to get there for the after-party Sunday evening, but I don't want to jinx it! Having moved home to Liverpool over the past couple of weeks, I'm happy to be at Lime St. at some time to hurd^Hmeet with you lot and walk up The Hill? Cheers, Ben On 16 October 2013 16:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > The last Thursday of October falls on Halloween, so I'm expecting that > most pubs will have something on that evening. That combined with my > expectation that a few members may be doing something that night (I mean > the ones who have kids, not the ugly ones getting free sweets :-)) it has > been suggested that we perhaps cancel this month's meet and replace it with > the trip to OggCamp this weekend. > > I'm going to be catching the train from Chester, so if we want to meet and > head up together that would be good. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- *Ben Arnold* *Liverpool, UK* *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com** * *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 13:09:06 2013 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:09:06 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ben, Yes if you could meet us and guide us with a whistle and the odd one-word commands that would be good :-) Of course if you want to impress, the whistles should all be done in the style of an old school modem! Les On 17 October 2013 14:04, Ben Arnold wrote: > Les & t'others, > > > I plan on doing the Saturday, but am working Sunday morning/afternoon :( I > may be able to get there for the after-party Sunday evening, but I don't > want to jinx it! > > Having moved home to Liverpool over the past couple of weeks, I'm happy to > be at Lime St. at some time to hurd^Hmeet with you lot and walk up The Hill? > > > Cheers, > Ben > > > > On 16 October 2013 16:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The last Thursday of October falls on Halloween, so I'm expecting that >> most pubs will have something on that evening. That combined with my >> expectation that a few members may be doing something that night (I mean >> the ones who have kids, not the ugly ones getting free sweets :-)) it has >> been suggested that we perhaps cancel this month's meet and replace it with >> the trip to OggCamp this weekend. >> >> I'm going to be catching the train from Chester, so if we want to meet >> and head up together that would be good. >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > *Ben Arnold* > *Liverpool, UK* > > *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* > *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com** > * > *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org* > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 13:13:49 2013 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:13:49 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree. Meeting at Lime street is prolly best as I am coming from Ellesmere Port so meeting at Liverpool end is a good idea. I think I will also only be attending Saturday, but that is open to change. Regards Stuart On 17 October 2013 14:04, Ben Arnold wrote: > Les & t'others, > > > I plan on doing the Saturday, but am working Sunday morning/afternoon :( I > may be able to get there for the after-party Sunday evening, but I don't > want to jinx it! > > Having moved home to Liverpool over the past couple of weeks, I'm happy to > be at Lime St. at some time to hurd^Hmeet with you lot and walk up The Hill? > > > Cheers, > Ben > > > > On 16 October 2013 16:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The last Thursday of October falls on Halloween, so I'm expecting that >> most pubs will have something on that evening. That combined with my >> expectation that a few members may be doing something that night (I mean >> the ones who have kids, not the ugly ones getting free sweets :-)) it has >> been suggested that we perhaps cancel this month's meet and replace it with >> the trip to OggCamp this weekend. >> >> I'm going to be catching the train from Chester, so if we want to meet >> and head up together that would be good. >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > *Ben Arnold* > *Liverpool, UK* > > *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* > *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com** > * > *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org* > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Oct 18 14:24:43 2013 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:24:43 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ben, How long do you think it will take us to walk from Lime Street to the venue? Is Lime Street the best station? Les On 17 October 2013 14:04, Ben Arnold wrote: > Les & t'others, > > > I plan on doing the Saturday, but am working Sunday morning/afternoon :( I > may be able to get there for the after-party Sunday evening, but I don't > want to jinx it! > > Having moved home to Liverpool over the past couple of weeks, I'm happy to > be at Lime St. at some time to hurd^Hmeet with you lot and walk up The Hill? > > > Cheers, > Ben > > > > On 16 October 2013 16:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The last Thursday of October falls on Halloween, so I'm expecting that >> most pubs will have something on that evening. That combined with my >> expectation that a few members may be doing something that night (I mean >> the ones who have kids, not the ugly ones getting free sweets :-)) it has >> been suggested that we perhaps cancel this month's meet and replace it with >> the trip to OggCamp this weekend. >> >> I'm going to be catching the train from Chester, so if we want to meet >> and head up together that would be good. >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > *Ben Arnold* > *Liverpool, UK* > > *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* > *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com** > * > *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org* > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BenArnold at fsfe.org Fri Oct 18 16:44:53 2013 From: BenArnold at fsfe.org (Ben Arnold) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:44:53 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42213ab6-d53d-40ee-8d78-8b0738aed450@email.android.com> Les Pritchard wrote: | Hi Ben, | | How long do you think it will take us to walk from Lime Street to the | venue? Is Lime Street the best station? I'm pretty sure it's at the same place as last time, out of Lime St and up left of Primrose Hill for about 10mins walking. Remember that if you're train-ing, a "Northern & Wirral Lines" ticket may be cheaper than a straightforward CTR-LIV return (SDR) via Birkenhead; it's essentially a Merseyrail day travelcard so can be used from Chester and the Port. Usually the ticket office will sell you this one instead, but you would have to search for it as a destination when using the machines. -- Ben Arnold Liverpool, UK Free Software Foundation (Europe) e: benarnold at fsfe.org | ben at seawolfsanctuary.com w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Oct 18 20:27:13 2013 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:27:13 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet & OggCamp In-Reply-To: <42213ab6-d53d-40ee-8d78-8b0738aed450@email.android.com> References: <42213ab6-d53d-40ee-8d78-8b0738aed450@email.android.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the tip. I'm going to aim to get to Lime Street for 10, is that good for everyone else? Les On 18 October 2013 17:44, Ben Arnold wrote: > Les Pritchard wrote: > | Hi Ben, > | > | How long do you think it will take us to walk from Lime Street to the > | venue? Is Lime Street the best station? > I'm pretty sure it's at the same place as last time, out of Lime St and up > left of Primrose Hill for about 10mins walking. > > Remember that if you're train-ing, a "Northern & Wirral Lines" ticket may > be cheaper than a straightforward CTR-LIV return (SDR) via Birkenhead; it's > essentially a Merseyrail day travelcard so can be used from Chester and the > Port. Usually the ticket office will sell you this one instead, but you > would have to search for it as a destination when using the machines. > > -- > Ben Arnold > Liverpool, UK > > Free Software Foundation (Europe) > e: benarnold at fsfe.org | ben at seawolfsanctuary.com > w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at rcgibson.plus.com Sat Oct 19 21:59:30 2013 From: roger at rcgibson.plus.com (Roger Gibson) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:59:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] HTML 'Cleaner' In-Reply-To: References: <42213ab6-d53d-40ee-8d78-8b0738aed450@email.android.com> Message-ID: <526300B9.2060702@rcgibson.plus.com> Hi folks, Unless you write web pages explicitly yourself, using packages tends to result in a lot of redundant HTML building up, scores of redundant lines, or even blank lines. There seem to be quite a lot of HTML text cleaners out there. Does anyone have any recommended reliable tools, which don't embed their own 'cookie' type bits of HTML. I could just live with it, but I like sometimes to tweek the actual HTML text,which is not so easy with stacks of redundant stuff. Any help and advice would be much appreciated. Roger Gibson rcgibson at iee.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3609/6739 - Release Date: 10/10/13 From dh at iucr.org Mon Oct 21 08:51:44 2013 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:51:44 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] HTML 'Cleaner' In-Reply-To: <526300B9.2060702@rcgibson.plus.com> References: <42213ab6-d53d-40ee-8d78-8b0738aed450@email.android.com> <526300B9.2060702@rcgibson.plus.com> Message-ID: <5264EB1F.9050909@iucr.org> HTML tidy is pretty good. http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ http://infohound.net/tidy/ Cheers, Dave. On 19/10/13 22:59, Roger Gibson wrote: > Hi folks, > Unless you write web pages explicitly yourself, using > packages tends to result in a lot of redundant HTML building up, scores > of redundant lines, or even blank lines. There seem to be quite > a lot of HTML text cleaners out there. Does anyone have any recommended > reliable tools, which don't embed their own 'cookie' type bits of HTML. > I could just live with it, but I like sometimes to tweek the actual HTML > text,which is not so easy with stacks of redundant stuff. Any help and > advice would be much appreciated. > > Roger Gibson rcgibson at iee.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3609/6739 - Release Date: 10/10/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From roger at rcgibson.plus.com Mon Oct 21 12:24:55 2013 From: roger at rcgibson.plus.com (Roger Gibson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:24:55 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] HTML 'Cleaner' In-Reply-To: <5264EB1F.9050909@iucr.org> References: <42213ab6-d53d-40ee-8d78-8b0738aed450@email.android.com> <526300B9.2060702@rcgibson.plus.com> <5264EB1F.9050909@iucr.org> Message-ID: <52651D0D.2040403@rcgibson.plus.com> Thanks Dave - very helpful - Roger. On 21/10/2013 09:51, David Holden wrote: > HTML tidy is pretty good. > > http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ > > http://infohound.net/tidy/ > > Cheers, > > Dave. > > > On 19/10/13 22:59, Roger Gibson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> Unless you write web pages explicitly yourself, using >> packages tends to result in a lot of redundant HTML building up, scores >> of redundant lines, or even blank lines. There seem to be quite >> a lot of HTML text cleaners out there. Does anyone have any recommended >> reliable tools, which don't embed their own 'cookie' type bits of HTML. >> I could just live with it, but I like sometimes to tweek the actual HTML >> text,which is not so easy with stacks of redundant stuff. Any help and >> advice would be much appreciated. >> >> Roger Gibson rcgibson at iee.org >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3609/6739 - Release Date: >> 10/10/13 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3609/6739 - Release Date: 10/10/13