From steve.lilley at nohp.com Sat Mar 1 12:24:21 2014 From: steve.lilley at nohp.com (Steve Lilley) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:24:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Chester Digest, Vol 306, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not quite "cloud like " but it is a stack ! And based on my reading ticks a number of small business boxes "Zentyal". I'm keen to have a play with it mainly because it can just be layered on top of ubuntu. Steve PS feeling much better now ;) > -- Steve Lilley Mobile - 079400 56623 Skype - stelil Email - steve.lilley at nohp.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at danlynch.org Tue Mar 4 19:22:30 2014 From: dan at danlynch.org (Dan Lynch) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:22:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool LUG Meeting - Weds March 5th @ 7pm Message-ID: <531627C9.8020207@danlynch.org> Liverpool Linux User Group will be holding our monthly meeting on Wednesday March 5th from 7pm in the Liverpool Social Centre on Bold St. This month LUG stalwart Neil Bothwick will expand on his previous talk about X10 home automation. No not X11, we're not getting into a Wayland vs Mir fight to the death... Linux joke there, sorry, moving on :) The meeting will be followed by a trip to a nearby pub for more tech talk and socialising. It's an informal and friendly group, we welcome all newcomers and no previous level of technical skill or experience is required. Just come along and chat. We'll be arriving from 7pm but the talk is unlikely to start until 7:30pm. Details of how to find the centre are here - http://www.liverpoolsocialcentre.org/index.php/contact-us-find-us Any problems give me a shout via phone or email. Details below. Hope to see many of you there, Dan Lynch Email: dan at danlynch.org Tel: 07779165528 From BenArnold at fsfe.org Thu Mar 6 14:25:50 2014 From: BenArnold at fsfe.org (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:25:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Routing a specific IP through a non-default interface Message-ID: Hi all, I have a system with a default Ethernet connection, through which all network traffic should go -- it'll be an internal-only network -- and is set-up correctly as any other. I want one specific host (say, 222.222.222.222) through another interface (wlan0, gateway of 1.1.1.1) that may or may not be up and connected. I've read that this would be possible by creating a second routing table for the wifi connection, which has 1.1.1.1 listed as that default gateway and create a rule that applies the specific IP to that routing table. Having added "1 wifi" to /etc/iproute2/rt_tables, how can I correct the following, and are there any other considerations that mean it's not that simple? ip route add default via 1.1.1.1 dev wlan0 table wifi ip rule add from 222.222.222.222 table wifi ip rule add to 222.222.222.222 table wifi As I've said before my routing knowledge is as strong as a chocolate teapot, I really must get reading and some spare kit... Much obliged, Ben -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 15:35:50 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:35:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Routing a specific IP through a non-default interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ben, Would the gateway of 1.1.1.1 only be available via your wlan? If you added a static route for the destination IP as going via 1.1.1.1 that it should take that route when your wifi is connected. The only issue is that when you don't have your wifi connected it may route to your destination IP via the eth, would that be an issue? Les On 6 March 2014 14:25, Ben Arnold wrote: > Hi all, > > > I have a system with a default Ethernet connection, through which all > network traffic should go -- it'll be an internal-only network -- and is > set-up correctly as any other. I want one specific host (say, > 222.222.222.222) through another interface (wlan0, gateway of 1.1.1.1) that > may or may not be up and connected. > > I've read that this would be possible by creating a second routing table > for the wifi connection, which has 1.1.1.1 listed as that default gateway > and create a rule that applies the specific IP to that routing table. > Having added "1 wifi" to /etc/iproute2/rt_tables, how can I correct the > following, and are there any other considerations that mean it's not that > simple? > > ip route add default via 1.1.1.1 dev wlan0 table wifi > ip rule add from 222.222.222.222 table wifi > ip rule add to 222.222.222.222 table wifi > > As I've said before my routing knowledge is as strong as a chocolate > teapot, I really must get reading and some spare kit... > > > Much obliged, > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 16:16:35 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 16:16:35 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Routing a specific IP through a non-default interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you tried just doing something like this? route add -net 222.222.222.222 netmask 255.255.255.255 gw 1.1.1.1 If you're going for a whole range of IPs via there, you'd just need to alter the subnet mask If that works then you'll just need to add it to your interfaces file prefixing it with 'post-up' On 6 March 2014 16:12, Ben Arnold wrote: > Afternoon Les, > > > On 6 March 2014 15:35, you wrote: > >> Would the gateway of 1.1.1.1 only be available via your wlan? If you >> added a static route for the destination IP as going via 1.1.1.1 that it >> should take that route when your wifi is connected. The only issue is that >> when you don't have your wifi connected it may route to your destination IP >> via the eth, would that be an issue? >> > > Yes, 1.1.1.1 is only available through the wlan0. > > I should probably mention that the first command fails; "No such process" > it complains when adding a second gateway and specifying an interface, > which I believe is because the "via 1.1.1.1" doesn't know *how* to go via > that IP. > > > Cheers, > Ben > > -- > *Ben Arnold* > *Liverpool, UK* > > *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* > *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at > seawolfsanctuary.com * > *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold > at jabber.fsfe.org * > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 16:17:58 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 16:17:58 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Routing a specific IP through a non-default interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, thinking about it I should say if it's a single host you want to contact that way this is how you should really do it: route add 222.222.222.222 gw 1.1.1.1 Much simpler On 6 March 2014 16:15, Les Pritchard wrote: > Have you tried just doing something like this? > > route add -net 222.222.222.222 netmask 255.255.255.255 gw 1.1.1.1 > If you're going for a whole range of IPs via there, you'd just need to > alter the subnet mask > > If that works then you'll just need to add it to your interfaces file > prefixing it with 'post-up' > > > On 6 March 2014 16:12, Ben Arnold wrote: > >> Afternoon Les, >> >> >> On 6 March 2014 15:35, you wrote: >> >>> Would the gateway of 1.1.1.1 only be available via your wlan? If you >>> added a static route for the destination IP as going via 1.1.1.1 that >>> it should take that route when your wifi is connected. The only issue is >>> that when you don't have your wifi connected it may route to your >>> destination IP via the eth, would that be an issue? >>> >> >> Yes, 1.1.1.1 is only available through the wlan0. >> >> I should probably mention that the first command fails; "No such process" >> it complains when adding a second gateway and specifying an interface, >> which I believe is because the "via 1.1.1.1" doesn't know *how* to go via >> that IP. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Ben >> >> -- >> *Ben Arnold* >> *Liverpool, UK* >> >> *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* >> *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at >> seawolfsanctuary.com * >> *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: >> benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 21:19:38 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:19:38 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Kimsufi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes I've got one for that purpose and it works well. If you can put up with not all the pages being in English (think they've been improving it) and use Chrome's translation then the rest works well. Decent bandwidth and a load of OS options. On 17 March 2014 21:00, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Has anyone ever bought/used on. Basically very cheap (and very low end) > boxes. 9 Euros for an atom with 2 GB and a 100 Mbit port aint bad. > > http://www.kimsufi.com/uk/ > > I am only looking for a cheap off site backup box so it looks interesting. > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BenArnold at fsfe.org Tue Mar 18 09:22:21 2014 From: BenArnold at fsfe.org (Ben Arnold) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:22:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Routing a specific IP through a non-default interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh, good gravy: my second gateway IP was wrong! Traffic was being put through the second gateway and interface correctly, it just couldn't go anywhere! The wireless has an authentication proxy thing, which i thought was the gateway. Adding the actual gateway, the auth server and the remote server's IP worked. So: sudo route add -net $IP2A netmask 255.255.255.255 gw $GW2 dev $IF2 sudo route add -net $IP2B netmask 255.255.255.255 gw $GW2 dev $IF2 was all it took. Les -- we were both right, your solution slightly more succinct :) Thanks for letting me waste a few moments of your time! Ben -- *Ben Arnold* *Liverpool, UK* *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at seawolfsanctuary.com * *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 12:38:11 2014 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:38:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Kimsufi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stuart, I've been using OVH (the parent company behind Kimsufi) for years. They're great. Kimsufi stuff has always served me well. They are also own http://nowyoustart.co.uk which has mental good prices on servers :) On 17 March 2014 21:18, Les Pritchard wrote: > Yes I've got one for that purpose and it works well. If you can put up > with not all the pages being in English (think they've been improving it) > and use Chrome's translation then the rest works well. Decent bandwidth and > a load of OS options. > > > > > On 17 March 2014 21:00, Stuart Burns wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Has anyone ever bought/used on. Basically very cheap (and very low end) >> boxes. 9 Euros for an atom with 2 GB and a 100 Mbit port aint bad. >> >> http://www.kimsufi.com/uk/ >> >> I am only looking for a cheap off site backup box so it looks >> interesting. >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Michael C. http://mcrilly.me/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 12:38:29 2014 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:38:29 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Kimsufi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry that should have been: http://soyoustart.co.uk On 18 March 2014 12:37, Michael Crilly wrote: > Stuart, > > I've been using OVH (the parent company behind Kimsufi) for years. They're > great. Kimsufi stuff has always served me well. > > They are also own http://nowyoustart.co.uk which has mental good prices > on servers :) > > > On 17 March 2014 21:18, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Yes I've got one for that purpose and it works well. If you can put up >> with not all the pages being in English (think they've been improving it) >> and use Chrome's translation then the rest works well. Decent bandwidth and >> a load of OS options. >> >> >> >> >> On 17 March 2014 21:00, Stuart Burns wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Has anyone ever bought/used on. Basically very cheap (and very low end) >>> boxes. 9 Euros for an atom with 2 GB and a 100 Mbit port aint bad. >>> >>> http://www.kimsufi.com/uk/ >>> >>> I am only looking for a cheap off site backup box so it looks >>> interesting. >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Michael C. > http://mcrilly.me/ > -- Michael C. http://mcrilly.me/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 17:37:01 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:37:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Routing a specific IP through a non-default interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah great, glad you got it sorted in the end. I have to admit I was distracted not long after your last email and them completely forgot about this thread until last night, so thanks for the update. On 18 March 2014 09:21, Ben Arnold wrote: > Oh, good gravy: my second gateway IP was wrong! Traffic was being put > through the second gateway and interface correctly, it just couldn't go > anywhere! > > The wireless has an authentication proxy thing, which i thought was the > gateway. Adding the actual gateway, the auth server and the remote server's > IP worked. So: > sudo route add -net $IP2A netmask 255.255.255.255 gw $GW2 dev $IF2 > sudo route add -net $IP2B netmask 255.255.255.255 gw $GW2 dev $IF2 > was all it took. > > Les -- we were both right, your solution slightly more succinct :) Thanks > for letting me waste a few moments of your time! > > > Ben > > -- > *Ben Arnold* > *Liverpool, UK* > > *Free Software Foundation (Europe)* > *e: benarnold at fsfe.org | **ben at > seawolfsanctuary.com * > *w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold > at jabber.fsfe.org * > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 14:24:03 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:24:03 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] OVH / Backups Message-ID: After our recent conversation on using OVH for backups some of you may be interested in this: https://hubic.com/en/ Check out the prices!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 15:01:38 2014 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 15:01:38 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] OVH / Backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's a bit mental. Even better than Google's recent offerings, but alas, I trust Google more to keep the data safe (not sure about private). On 21 March 2014 14:23, Les Pritchard wrote: > After our recent conversation on using OVH for backups some of you may be > interested in this: > > https://hubic.com/en/ > > Check out the prices!!! > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Michael C. http://mcrilly.me/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 16:08:20 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:08:20 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] OVH / Backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes I thought Google had trumped most on price until I saw this! If you were using this like Dropbox / Bittorrent sync system then at least you'd have local copies should anything happen to their systems. They mention security on the site, but I'd always encrypt before pushing up to any storage anyway so that's not really an issue for me. On 21 March 2014 15:00, Michael Crilly wrote: > That's a bit mental. Even better than Google's recent offerings, but alas, > I trust Google more to keep the data safe (not sure about private). > > > On 21 March 2014 14:23, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> After our recent conversation on using OVH for backups some of you may be >> interested in this: >> >> https://hubic.com/en/ >> >> Check out the prices!!! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Michael C. > http://mcrilly.me/ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcrilly at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 16:53:43 2014 From: mrcrilly at gmail.com (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:53:43 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] OVH / Backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree. Some GPG magic will soon solve any privacy or security concerns. The only data I encrypt on Dropbox at this present moment in time is personal scans of IDs, like my password, driving license, etc. Anything else just isn't sensitive or important enough. On 21 March 2014 16:07, Les Pritchard wrote: > Yes I thought Google had trumped most on price until I saw this! If you > were using this like Dropbox / Bittorrent sync system then at least you'd > have local copies should anything happen to their systems. They mention > security on the site, but I'd always encrypt before pushing up to any > storage anyway so that's not really an issue for me. > > > On 21 March 2014 15:00, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> That's a bit mental. Even better than Google's recent offerings, but >> alas, I trust Google more to keep the data safe (not sure about private). >> >> >> On 21 March 2014 14:23, Les Pritchard wrote: >> >>> After our recent conversation on using OVH for backups some of you may >>> be interested in this: >>> >>> https://hubic.com/en/ >>> >>> Check out the prices!!! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Michael C. >> http://mcrilly.me/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Michael C. http://mcrilly.me/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk Thu Mar 27 09:14:12 2014 From: thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk (Thomas Prophett) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:14:12 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Les I'll be up for a virtual meet. On 26 March 2014 13:24, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > The next LUG meet is scheduled for tomorrow evening. Unfortunately we > can't use Steve's offices, although he is offering to host us sometime in > the next week or two. So I suggest that we try out the virtual meet > tomorrow. We have a couple of different options so we could also experiment > with them as part of the meet-up. If you'd like to join the virtual meet > then can you let me know as I'll probably have to invite you individually > for some systems including Google Hangouts. > > I'm going to be later getting back tomorrow evening so could we start at 8? > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 12:18:33 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:18:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will give it a go. No cheesy webcams though ! On 27 March 2014 09:13, Thomas Prophett wrote: > Hi Les > > I'll be up for a virtual meet. > > > On 26 March 2014 13:24, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The next LUG meet is scheduled for tomorrow evening. Unfortunately we >> can't use Steve's offices, although he is offering to host us sometime in >> the next week or two. So I suggest that we try out the virtual meet >> tomorrow. We have a couple of different options so we could also experiment >> with them as part of the meet-up. If you'd like to join the virtual meet >> then can you let me know as I'll probably have to invite you individually >> for some systems including Google Hangouts. >> >> I'm going to be later getting back tomorrow evening so could we start at >> 8? >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 13:03:52 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:03:52 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lol! Might be a bit tricky without, but we can always experiment! I'll send you both invites later today for the different systems I'd like to try. Anyone else who wants to be involved let me know. Thanks Les On 27 March 2014 12:17, Stuart Burns wrote: > I will give it a go. No cheesy webcams though ! > > > > On 27 March 2014 09:13, Thomas Prophett wrote: > >> Hi Les >> >> I'll be up for a virtual meet. >> >> >> On 26 March 2014 13:24, Les Pritchard wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The next LUG meet is scheduled for tomorrow evening. Unfortunately we >>> can't use Steve's offices, although he is offering to host us sometime in >>> the next week or two. So I suggest that we try out the virtual meet >>> tomorrow. We have a couple of different options so we could also experiment >>> with them as part of the meet-up. If you'd like to join the virtual meet >>> then can you let me know as I'll probably have to invite you individually >>> for some systems including Google Hangouts. >>> >>> I'm going to be later getting back tomorrow evening so could we start at >>> 8? >>> >>> Les >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BenArnold at fsfe.org Thu Mar 27 13:55:38 2014 From: BenArnold at fsfe.org (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:55:38 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On March 27, 2014 1:03:02 PM GMT, Les Pritchard wrote: | Anyone else who wants to be involved let me know. I'd be interested to see how well various softwares perform, and which appeal. -- Ben Arnold Liverpool, UK Free Software Foundation (Europe) e: benarnold at fsfe.org | ben at seawolfsanctuary.com w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 19:31:12 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:31:12 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Running a little late, will send the invites out not long after 8 hopefully. Les On 27 Mar 2014 13:55, "Ben Arnold" wrote: > On March 27, 2014 1:03:02 PM GMT, Les Pritchard > wrote: > | Anyone else who wants to be involved let me know. > > I'd be interested to see how well various softwares perform, and which > appeal. > > > -- > Ben Arnold > Liverpool, UK > > Free Software Foundation (Europe) > e: benarnold at fsfe.org | ben at seawolfsanctuary.com > w: seawolfsanctuary.com | chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 20:19:15 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:19:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] LUG meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I've sent a Google Hangout request to those who've let me know... 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URL: From dan at danlynch.org Fri Mar 28 15:41:19 2014 From: dan at danlynch.org (Dan Lynch) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:41:19 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Liverpool LUG Meeting - Weds April 2nd @ 7pm In-Reply-To: <533597CD.7090008@danlynch.org> References: <533597CD.7090008@danlynch.org> Message-ID: <533597F2.4040601@danlynch.org> VENUE: Liverpool Social Centre, Bold St, City Centre - http://www.liverpoolsocialcentre.org DATE/TIME: Weds April 2nd - 7pm onwards Hi folks, it's almost time for another LivLUG meet. This month in the absence of anyone better, I shall give a talk myself about HabitRPG, the Open Source game that makes your TODO list fun. You can check the project out in advance here if you like - http://habitrpg.com I've been using it since the start of the year and will relate my experiences. I have set the meeting time for 7pm but the talk is unlikely to start until 7:30. We'll adjourn to a nearby pub after the talk as usual, around 8:30 or 9pm. The group is informal and all are welcome. There is no required level of technical skill or experience. We don't care if you're a hardened kernel hacker or have only vaguely heard of this Linux thing. Just come and say hello. Directions can be found on the venue website. You need to use the white buzzer next to the door to gain entry to the Next To Nowhere basement. Hope to see many of you there! Dan