From les.pritchard at gmail.com Sun Nov 2 20:43:30 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 20:43:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] November Meet + Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mike, Yes it was good to see you again, thanks for coming. I was wondering if you'd be interested in doing a talk on something like Ansible, so since you're offering I think that would be good. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Stuart for your talk...and for taking all the jokes! It was an interesting talk and the curve ball thrown by VMWare just added to the audience participation! With regard to the Christmas do, how does the 11th December sound to everyone? Les On 31 October 2014 21:27, Michael Crilly wrote: > Hello! > > It was good to be back at the meet again for the first time in AGES! > Stuart's talk inspired me to committing to doing my own, but I'm unsure > about the subject; I've been using Ansible and Vagrant a lot recently and > I'm writing some blog posts to document what I've learned thus far, however > perhaps a talk/demonstration would be of interest to the group? > > I think an hour would allow me to cover some Vagrant and Ansible basics, > and then show how the two can be used to automatically configure some local > development VMs. Of course, the end result being some Ansible that can > actually be applied to any (supported) Linux server you have SSH access to > (and root privileges). Thoughts? > > Les, you also mentioned the possibility of a Christmas dinner? I'm good > for any date before the 14th of December. Any thoughts from others? > > - Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Sun Nov 2 20:47:56 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 20:47:56 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] November Meet + Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Evening, Well that settles that. I will get the blog posts written regarding Ansible design patterns and their use with Vagrant, and from there I can probably present these as a talk. I'll fire over links to the list once I feel the content is sufficient. Another idea I had, for the more paranoid/security aware amongst us, was a "crypto party." Stuart could get wasted in the corner and shout abuse at us about how we're all paranoid, and in the mean time we could sign each others' keys, and talk about encryption/signing, etc ;-) The 11th is good for me. Penciled in my side. - M On 2 November 2014 20:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Yes it was good to see you again, thanks for coming. I was wondering if > you'd be interested in doing a talk on something like Ansible, so since > you're offering I think that would be good. > > I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Stuart for your talk...and > for taking all the jokes! It was an interesting talk and the curve ball > thrown by VMWare just added to the audience participation! > > With regard to the Christmas do, how does the 11th December sound to > everyone? > > Les > > On 31 October 2014 21:27, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> It was good to be back at the meet again for the first time in AGES! >> Stuart's talk inspired me to committing to doing my own, but I'm unsure >> about the subject; I've been using Ansible and Vagrant a lot recently and >> I'm writing some blog posts to document what I've learned thus far, however >> perhaps a talk/demonstration would be of interest to the group? >> >> I think an hour would allow me to cover some Vagrant and Ansible basics, >> and then show how the two can be used to automatically configure some local >> development VMs. Of course, the end result being some Ansible that can >> actually be applied to any (supported) Linux server you have SSH access to >> (and root privileges). Thoughts? >> >> Les, you also mentioned the possibility of a Christmas dinner? I'm good >> for any date before the 14th of December. Any thoughts from others? >> >> - Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 8 14:43:48 2014 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (robin592 at yahoo.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:43:48 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] November Meet + Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201411081444.50695.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Cybercrimes - Heists and Hackers! 4:30pm today and tomorrow on the BBC News channel. Looks like a reason to be paranoid to me, so what about a cryptoparty? I would find it useful to know how best to encrypt emails, store passwords safely, and what all those https warnings I keep getting from Firefox mean. If anyone was willing to provide the info I would definitely be interested. Just cause you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you too! Robin On Sunday 02 November 2014 20:47:44 Michael Crilly wrote: > Evening, > > Well that settles that. I will get the blog posts written regarding Ansible > design patterns and their use with Vagrant, and from there I can probably > present these as a talk. I'll fire over links to the list once I feel the > content is sufficient. > > Another idea I had, for the more paranoid/security aware amongst us, was a > "crypto party." Stuart could get wasted in the corner and shout abuse at us > about how we're all paranoid, and in the mean time we could sign each > others' keys, and talk about encryption/signing, etc ;-) > > The 11th is good for me. Penciled in my side. > > - M > > On 2 November 2014 20:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Yes it was good to see you again, thanks for coming. I was wondering if > > you'd be interested in doing a talk on something like Ansible, so since > > you're offering I think that would be good. > > > > I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Stuart for your talk...and > > for taking all the jokes! It was an interesting talk and the curve ball > > thrown by VMWare just added to the audience participation! > > > > With regard to the Christmas do, how does the 11th December sound to > > everyone? > > > > Les > > > > On 31 October 2014 21:27, Michael Crilly wrote: > > > >> Hello! > >> > >> It was good to be back at the meet again for the first time in AGES! > >> Stuart's talk inspired me to committing to doing my own, but I'm unsure > >> about the subject; I've been using Ansible and Vagrant a lot recently and > >> I'm writing some blog posts to document what I've learned thus far, however > >> perhaps a talk/demonstration would be of interest to the group? > >> > >> I think an hour would allow me to cover some Vagrant and Ansible basics, > >> and then show how the two can be used to automatically configure some local > >> development VMs. Of course, the end result being some Ansible that can > >> actually be applied to any (supported) Linux server you have SSH access to > >> (and root privileges). Thoughts? > >> > >> Les, you also mentioned the possibility of a Christmas dinner? I'm good > >> for any date before the 14th of December. Any thoughts from others? > >> > >> - Mike > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > From michael at mcrilly.me Sat Nov 8 14:51:01 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:51:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] November Meet + Christmas In-Reply-To: <201411081444.50695.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201411081444.50695.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi, I would be happy to go over some material on these subjects. If we're doing a talk in Vagrant + Ansible this month, it will have to be sooner or in the New Year. Failing that, feel free to ask your questions here :) - Mike On 8 Nov 2014 14:43, wrote: > > Cybercrimes - Heists and Hackers! > > 4:30pm today and tomorrow on the BBC News channel. > > Looks like a reason to be paranoid to me, so what about a cryptoparty? > > I would find it useful to know how best to encrypt emails, store passwords > safely, and what all those https warnings I keep getting from Firefox mean. > If anyone was willing to provide the info I would definitely be interested. > > Just cause you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you > too! > > Robin > > > On Sunday 02 November 2014 20:47:44 Michael Crilly wrote: > > Evening, > > > > Well that settles that. I will get the blog posts written regarding > Ansible > > design patterns and their use with Vagrant, and from there I can probably > > present these as a talk. I'll fire over links to the list once I feel the > > content is sufficient. > > > > Another idea I had, for the more paranoid/security aware amongst us, was > a > > "crypto party." Stuart could get wasted in the corner and shout abuse at > us > > about how we're all paranoid, and in the mean time we could sign each > > others' keys, and talk about encryption/signing, etc ;-) > > > > The 11th is good for me. Penciled in my side. > > > > - M > > > > On 2 November 2014 20:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > Yes it was good to see you again, thanks for coming. I was wondering if > > > you'd be interested in doing a talk on something like Ansible, so since > > > you're offering I think that would be good. > > > > > > I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Stuart for your > talk...and > > > for taking all the jokes! It was an interesting talk and the curve ball > > > thrown by VMWare just added to the audience participation! > > > > > > With regard to the Christmas do, how does the 11th December sound to > > > everyone? > > > > > > Les > > > > > > On 31 October 2014 21:27, Michael Crilly wrote: > > > > > >> Hello! > > >> > > >> It was good to be back at the meet again for the first time in AGES! > > >> Stuart's talk inspired me to committing to doing my own, but I'm > unsure > > >> about the subject; I've been using Ansible and Vagrant a lot recently > and > > >> I'm writing some blog posts to document what I've learned thus far, > however > > >> perhaps a talk/demonstration would be of interest to the group? > > >> > > >> I think an hour would allow me to cover some Vagrant and Ansible > basics, > > >> and then show how the two can be used to automatically configure some > local > > >> development VMs. Of course, the end result being some Ansible that can > > >> actually be applied to any (supported) Linux server you have SSH > access > to > > >> (and root privileges). 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URL: From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 8 17:42:04 2014 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (robin592 at yahoo.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 17:42:04 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] November Meet + Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <201411081444.50695.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201411081743.03424.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Cheers Mike, In the new year sounds good. That'll give me time to read up on it beforehand, just in case everyone starts going, "Well the file path's OK, What in the config file..." once again. ;^) I was happy though, due to sitting on a plastic facsimile of the Iron Throne. What does everyone else think about a cryptoparty? Robin On Saturday 08 November 2014 14:50:49 Michael Crilly wrote: > Hi, > > I would be happy to go over some material on these subjects. If we're doing > a talk in Vagrant + Ansible this month, it will have to be sooner or in the > New Year. > > Failing that, feel free to ask your questions here :) > > - Mike > On 8 Nov 2014 14:43, wrote: > > > > > Cybercrimes - Heists and Hackers! > > > > 4:30pm today and tomorrow on the BBC News channel. > > > > Looks like a reason to be paranoid to me, so what about a cryptoparty? > > > > I would find it useful to know how best to encrypt emails, store passwords > > safely, and what all those https warnings I keep getting from Firefox mean. > > If anyone was willing to provide the info I would definitely be interested. > > > > Just cause you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you > > too! > > > > Robin > > > > > > On Sunday 02 November 2014 20:47:44 Michael Crilly wrote: > > > Evening, > > > > > > Well that settles that. I will get the blog posts written regarding > > Ansible > > > design patterns and their use with Vagrant, and from there I can probably > > > present these as a talk. I'll fire over links to the list once I feel the > > > content is sufficient. > > > > > > Another idea I had, for the more paranoid/security aware amongst us, was > > a > > > "crypto party." Stuart could get wasted in the corner and shout abuse at > > us > > > about how we're all paranoid, and in the mean time we could sign each > > > others' keys, and talk about encryption/signing, etc ;-) > > > > > > The 11th is good for me. Penciled in my side. > > > > > > - M > > > > > > On 2 November 2014 20:43, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > > > Yes it was good to see you again, thanks for coming. I was wondering if > > > > you'd be interested in doing a talk on something like Ansible, so since > > > > you're offering I think that would be good. > > > > > > > > I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Stuart for your > > talk...and > > > > for taking all the jokes! It was an interesting talk and the curve ball > > > > thrown by VMWare just added to the audience participation! > > > > > > > > With regard to the Christmas do, how does the 11th December sound to > > > > everyone? > > > > > > > > Les > > > > > > > > On 31 October 2014 21:27, Michael Crilly wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hello! > > > >> > > > >> It was good to be back at the meet again for the first time in AGES! > > > >> Stuart's talk inspired me to committing to doing my own, but I'm > > unsure > > > >> about the subject; I've been using Ansible and Vagrant a lot recently > > and > > > >> I'm writing some blog posts to document what I've learned thus far, > > however > > > >> perhaps a talk/demonstration would be of interest to the group? > > > >> > > > >> I think an hour would allow me to cover some Vagrant and Ansible > > basics, > > > >> and then show how the two can be used to automatically configure some > > local > > > >> development VMs. Of course, the end result being some Ansible that can > > > >> actually be applied to any (supported) Linux server you have SSH > > access > > to > > > >> (and root privileges). Thoughts? > > > >> > > > >> Les, you also mentioned the possibility of a Christmas dinner? I'm > > good > > > >> for any date before the 14th of December. Any thoughts from others? > > > >> > > > >> - Mike > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Chester mailing list > > > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Chester mailing list > > > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > From michael at mcrilly.me Thu Nov 13 22:07:34 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:07:34 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Vagrant + Ansible Talk Message-ID: Evening all. I thought I would share part-one of a three(?) part bog post I am developing on the above subject. 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URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 14:07:14 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:07:14 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be meeting > tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from 7.30 and > I'm looking forward to the talk! > > See you all there. > > Les > > > > On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the month! >> >> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >> >> - Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 14:11:01 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:11:01 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually thinking about buying a license for my mum and dad. #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board ;-) On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns wrote: >Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) > >Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... > >On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard >wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >meeting >> tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from 7.30 >and >> I'm looking forward to the talk! >> >> See you all there. >> >> Les >> >> >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the month! >>> >>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>> >>> - Mike >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > >-- >Stuart Burns >E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >M: [redacted] > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Chester mailing list >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 14:18:44 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:18:44 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the cause is Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered a full refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or the Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the NSA trying to bug it ;) On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly wrote: > VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually thinking > about buying a license for my mum and dad. > > #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a > problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board > ;-) > > On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >> >> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be meeting >>> tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from 7.30 and >>> I'm looking forward to the talk! >>> >>> See you all there. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the month! >>>> >>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>> >>>> - Mike >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 14:20:11 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:20:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns wrote: >They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the cause >is >Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered a >full >refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. > >Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or >the >Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. > >I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the NSA >trying to bug it ;) > > > >On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly >wrote: > >> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually >thinking >> about buying a license for my mum and dad. >> >> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic >board >> ;-) >> >> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>> >>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >meeting >>>> tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >7.30 and >>>> I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>> >>>> See you all there. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the >month! >>>>> >>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox >basics? >>>>> >>>>> - Mike >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > >-- >Stuart Burns >E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >M: [redacted] > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Chester mailing list >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 14:23:33 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:23:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Hey, lay off the midgets! And you gave it to me :p On 26 November 2014 at 14:20, Michael Crilly wrote: > The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. > > On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the cause is >> Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered a full >> refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. >> >> Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or the >> Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. >> >> I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the NSA >> trying to bug it ;) >> >> >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually thinking >>> about buying a license for my mum and dad. >>> >>> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >>> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board >>> ;-) >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>>> >>>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >>>>> meeting tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >>>>> 7.30 and I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>>> >>>>> See you all there. >>>>> >>>>> Les >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the month! >>>>>> >>>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 16:11:56 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:11:56 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Six times! That is unbelievable! Were they just all showing the same symptoms? On 26 November 2014 at 14:23, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hey, lay off the midgets! And you gave it to me :p > > On 26 November 2014 at 14:20, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. >> >> On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the cause >>> is Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered a >>> full refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. >>> >>> Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or the >>> Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. >>> >>> I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the NSA >>> trying to bug it ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually >>>> thinking about buying a license for my mum and dad. >>>> >>>> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >>>> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>>>> >>>>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>>>> >>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >>>>>> meeting tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >>>>>> 7.30 and I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>>>> >>>>>> See you all there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the month! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 16:28:36 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:28:36 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Yep. They were all working fine and then went into suspend mode, never to come out PRAM resets SMC resets etc, none of it brought it back to life. On 26 November 2014 at 16:11, Les Pritchard wrote: > Six times! That is unbelievable! Were they just all showing the same > symptoms? > > On 26 November 2014 at 14:23, Stuart Burns > wrote: > >> Hey, lay off the midgets! And you gave it to me :p >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 14:20, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the cause >>>> is Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered a >>>> full refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. >>>> >>>> Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or >>>> the Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. >>>> >>>> I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the NSA >>>> trying to bug it ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually >>>>> thinking about buying a license for my mum and dad. >>>>> >>>>> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >>>>> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >>>>>>> meeting tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >>>>>>> 7.30 and I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See you all there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Les >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the month! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 16:30:47 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:30:47 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: So I'm guessing they couldn't run their usual hardware tests as they were dead? I find it hard to believe that software could do that. On 26 November 2014 at 16:27, Stuart Burns wrote: > Yep. They were all working fine and then went into suspend mode, never to > come out > > PRAM resets SMC resets etc, none of it brought it back to life. > > On 26 November 2014 at 16:11, Les Pritchard > wrote: > >> Six times! That is unbelievable! Were they just all showing the same >> symptoms? >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 14:23, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >>> Hey, lay off the midgets! And you gave it to me :p >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:20, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the cause >>>>> is Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered a >>>>> full refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. >>>>> >>>>> Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or >>>>> the Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. >>>>> >>>>> I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the >>>>> NSA trying to bug it ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually >>>>>> thinking about buying a license for my mum and dad. >>>>>> >>>>>> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >>>>>> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >>>>>>>> meeting tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >>>>>>>> 7.30 and I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> See you all there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the >>>>>>>>> month! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>>>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 16:33:13 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:33:13 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Well several Genii ? looked at it, couldn't revive it. I too think hardware but I do push it hard, 2 monitors, multiple VMs. Makes it run hot. It gets hot where the GPU is right after the fail. On 26 November 2014 at 16:30, Les Pritchard wrote: > So I'm guessing they couldn't run their usual hardware tests as they were > dead? > > I find it hard to believe that software could do that. > > On 26 November 2014 at 16:27, Stuart Burns > wrote: > >> Yep. They were all working fine and then went into suspend mode, never to >> come out >> >> PRAM resets SMC resets etc, none of it brought it back to life. >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 16:11, Les Pritchard >> wrote: >> >>> Six times! That is unbelievable! Were they just all showing the same >>> symptoms? >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:23, Stuart Burns >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, lay off the midgets! And you gave it to me :p >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:20, Michael Crilly >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. >>>>> >>>>> On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the >>>>>> cause is Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered >>>>>> a full refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or >>>>>> the Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the >>>>>> NSA trying to bug it ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually >>>>>>> thinking about buying a license for my mum and dad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >>>>>>> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board >>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard < >>>>>>>> les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >>>>>>>>> meeting tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >>>>>>>>> 7.30 and I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See you all there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the >>>>>>>>>> month! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>>>>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Mike >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 16:40:40 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:40:40 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <259E684E-9915-44BE-A8C6-60B59E115F76@mcrilly.me> <3C9ADA28-B426-4DBB-9BF5-86A76B510351@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Now you say that, I have heard of some people who've had problems killing their MBPs when they run them very hard. On 26 November 2014 at 16:32, Stuart Burns wrote: > Well several Genii ? looked at it, couldn't revive it. I too think > hardware but I do push it hard, 2 monitors, multiple VMs. Makes it run hot. > It gets hot where the GPU is right after the fail. > > > On 26 November 2014 at 16:30, Les Pritchard > wrote: > >> So I'm guessing they couldn't run their usual hardware tests as they were >> dead? >> >> I find it hard to believe that software could do that. >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 16:27, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >>> Yep. They were all working fine and then went into suspend mode, never >>> to come out >>> >>> PRAM resets SMC resets etc, none of it brought it back to life. >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 16:11, Les Pritchard >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Six times! That is unbelievable! Were they just all showing the same >>>> symptoms? >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:23, Stuart Burns < >>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey, lay off the midgets! And you gave it to me :p >>>>> >>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:20, Michael Crilly >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The NSA aren't interested in your midget clown porn. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 November 2014 14:18:34 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They reckon, and this aint the "genii" but the manager, that the >>>>>>> cause is Fusion. Therefore they comped me a copy of Parallels. Even offered >>>>>>> a full refund for the mac and all the devices, ie just shy of 2K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thing is, never had any of these issues with my 13" Core Duo MBP, or >>>>>>> the Mac Quiksilver or the Mac Mini, or any other laptops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm beginning to get paranoid about it all actually. It must be the >>>>>>> NSA trying to bug it ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 14:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> VMWare Fusion worked so well for you, Stuart, then I'm actually >>>>>>>> thinking about buying a license for my mum and dad. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #6? Man, I've never so much as considered taken a Mac back due to a >>>>>>>> problem. I think you're just getting beer and egg all over the logic board >>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 14:07:05 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Virtualbox, you need VMware Fusion, a proper solution ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh and I am now on mac #6. No I am not kidding.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:51, Les Pritchard < >>>>>>>>> les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes thanks for the reminder - it dropped off my list! We will be >>>>>>>>>> meeting tomorrow evening at the Funk Aardvark (Bridge Street rows) from >>>>>>>>>> 7.30 and I'm looking forward to the talk! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> See you all there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 26 November 2014 at 12:11, Michael Crilly >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are we on for tomorrow evening? It's the last Thursday of the >>>>>>>>>>> month! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are we meeting again at that funky, cool shop? And are you still >>>>>>>>>>> interested in me going over some Vagrant/Ansible/VirtualBox basics? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Mike >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Stuart Burns >>>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>>> M: [redacted] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dont they sell clapped out old motors On 26 November 2014 at 16:48, Les Pritchard wrote: > Yes, I've found a far more language to use: > > http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 16:58:54 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:58:54 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] I'm changing programming language... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: he he, you're thinking of Arnold Clark there :-) On 26 November 2014 at 16:53, Stuart Burns wrote: > Dont they sell clapped out old motors > > On 26 November 2014 at 16:48, Les Pritchard > wrote: > >> Yes, I've found a far more language to use: >> >> http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Wed Nov 26 17:05:53 2014 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:05:53 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] I'm changing programming language... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54760869.9040500@iucr.org> Lol At least it wasn't StalloneC - that would be up there with lisp on the undecipherable league.. On 26/11/14 16:53, Stuart Burns wrote: > Dont they sell clapped out old motors > > On 26 November 2014 at 16:48, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Yes, I've found a far more language to use: >> >> http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 17:13:21 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:13:21 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] I'm changing programming language... In-Reply-To: <54760869.9040500@iucr.org> References: <54760869.9040500@iucr.org> Message-ID: Love it! I hear the 'cool kids' are all looking at StathamRuby, but I'm not sure where that's going :-) On 26 November 2014 at 17:05, David Holden wrote: > Lol > > At least it wasn't StalloneC - that would be up there with lisp on the > undecipherable league.. > > On 26/11/14 16:53, Stuart Burns wrote: > >> Dont they sell clapped out old motors >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 16:48, Les Pritchard >> wrote: >> >> Yes, I've found a far more language to use: >>> >>> http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -- > Dr David Holden. 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I hear the 'cool kids' are all looking at StathamRuby, but I'm not > sure where that's going :-) > > On 26 November 2014 at 17:05, David Holden wrote: > >> Lol >> >> At least it wasn't StalloneC - that would be up there with lisp on the >> undecipherable league.. >> >> On 26/11/14 16:53, Stuart Burns wrote: >> >>> Dont they sell clapped out old motors >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 16:48, Les Pritchard >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I've found a far more language to use: >>>> >>>> http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> -- >> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 26 19:17:30 2014 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (robin592 at yahoo.co.uk) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:17:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Spot the lie... Message-ID: <201411261918.55727.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> I've just read the first paragraph of Mike's blog http://mcrilly.me/the-vav-stack-part-one I can't work out which sentence is the lie though, hmmm.... Robin :-( From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 19:21:15 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:21:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Spot the lie... In-Reply-To: <201411261918.55727.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201411261918.55727.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: It's the first one, Mike's day rate working on it for you cancels out any other savings you make ;-p On 26 Nov 2014 19:17, wrote: > I've just read the first paragraph of Mike's blog > > http://mcrilly.me/the-vav-stack-part-one > > I can't work out which sentence is the lie though, hmmm.... > > > Robin > > :-( > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 19:26:41 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:26:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Spot the lie... In-Reply-To: References: <201411261918.55727.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <2176631E-162A-4B92-9F22-FD47AFD4F0CD@mcrilly.me> Haha. Sadly I started rewriting that post to be a one off, but haven't finished it. I'm working in it now, so I apologise for the drop off in content at the end :-) On 26 November 2014 19:21:00 GMT+00:00, Les Pritchard wrote: >It's the first one, Mike's day rate working on it for you cancels out >any >other savings you make ;-p > On 26 Nov 2014 19:17, wrote: > >> I've just read the first paragraph of Mike's blog >> >> http://mcrilly.me/the-vav-stack-part-one >> >> I can't work out which sentence is the lie though, hmmm.... >> >> >> Robin >> >> :-( >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Chester mailing list >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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In-Reply-To: <2176631E-162A-4B92-9F22-FD47AFD4F0CD@mcrilly.me> References: <201411261918.55727.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> <2176631E-162A-4B92-9F22-FD47AFD4F0CD@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <201411261945.51850.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Aha, so reading it can make me sexy - wayahay!!! I'll get to the end in that case, and see if I can read faster than the author writes... On Wednesday 26 November 2014 19:26:50 Michael Crilly wrote: > Haha. > > Sadly I started rewriting that post to be a one off, but haven't finished it. I'm working in it now, so I apologise for the drop off in content at the end :-) > > On 26 November 2014 19:21:00 GMT+00:00, Les Pritchard wrote: > >It's the first one, Mike's day rate working on it for you cancels out > >any > >other savings you make ;-p > > On 26 Nov 2014 19:17, wrote: > > > >> I've just read the first paragraph of Mike's blog > >> > >> http://mcrilly.me/the-vav-stack-part-one > >> > >> I can't work out which sentence is the lie though, hmmm.... > >> > >> > >> Robin > >> > >> :-( > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Chester mailing list > >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 19:46:54 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:46:54 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of storage. It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more control of my data, so I will switch eventually. If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? - M > On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail for biz ? > > Regards > > Stuart > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 19:50:50 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:50:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly wrote: > I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for > business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of > storage. > > It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it > makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more > control of my data, so I will switch eventually. > > If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? > > - M > > > On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns > wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. > I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail > for biz ? > > Regards > > Stuart > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 19:52:45 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:52:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). It’s basically IMAP, mate. > On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. > > On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly > wrote: > I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of storage. > > It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more control of my data, so I will switch eventually. > > If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? > > - M > > >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? 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I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of >> storage. >> >> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it >> makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more >> control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >> >> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >> >> - M >> >> >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. >> I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail >> for biz ? >> >> Regards >> >> Stuart >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 19:53:47 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:53:47 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Meh, will take another luck. I was just bein lazy lol On 26 November 2014 at 19:52, Michael Crilly wrote: > That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did > used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted > integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected > email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). > > It’s basically IMAP, mate. > > > On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns > wrote: > > Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an > ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email > when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. > > On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for >> business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of >> storage. >> >> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it >> makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more >> control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >> >> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >> >> - M >> >> >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. >> I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail >> for biz ? >> >> Regards >> >> Stuart >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 20:16:09 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:16:09 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: I've used a combination of my own services and Google. Like Mike says, the Google / Office 365 services are just so easy to use. For my own servers I've used a variety of systems over the years including a good old Sendmail server. A few years back I looked at all the 'Exchange alternatives' available as I'd rather not have to build it all myself, especially the Activesync (push email) services. After trying out quite a few, I ended up with Axigen. It is a commercial product, but it catered for my main needs of IMAP and push email. It's a simple out of the box install. Les On 26 November 2014 at 19:53, Stuart Burns wrote: > Meh, will take another luck. I was just bein lazy lol > > On 26 November 2014 at 19:52, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did >> used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted >> integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected >> email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). >> >> It’s basically IMAP, mate. >> >> >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an >> ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email >> when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for >>> business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of >>> storage. >>> >>> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it >>> makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more >>> control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >>> >>> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >>> >>> - M >>> >>> >>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain >>> too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? >>> Gmail for biz ? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 20:21:41 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:21:41 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: But Les, don't you have an entire farm of redundant servers! On 26 November 2014 at 20:15, Les Pritchard wrote: > I've used a combination of my own services and Google. Like Mike says, the > Google / Office 365 services are just so easy to use. For my own servers > I've used a variety of systems over the years including a good old Sendmail > server. A few years back I looked at all the 'Exchange alternatives' > available as I'd rather not have to build it all myself, especially the > Activesync (push email) services. After trying out quite a few, I ended up > with Axigen. It is a commercial product, but it catered for my main needs > of IMAP and push email. It's a simple out of the box install. > > Les > > On 26 November 2014 at 19:53, Stuart Burns > wrote: > >> Meh, will take another luck. I was just bein lazy lol >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 19:52, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did >>> used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted >>> integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected >>> email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). >>> >>> It’s basically IMAP, mate. >>> >>> >>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns >>> wrote: >>> >>> Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an >>> ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email >>> when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for >>>> business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of >>>> storage. >>>> >>>> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because >>>> it makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more >>>> control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >>>> >>>> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >>>> >>>> - M >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain >>>> too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? >>>> Gmail for biz ? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Stuart >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Like Mike says, the Google / Office 365 services are just so easy to use. For my own servers I've used a variety of systems over the years including a good old Sendmail server. A few years back I looked at all the 'Exchange alternatives' available as I'd rather not have to build it all myself, especially the Activesync (push email) services. After trying out quite a few, I ended up with Axigen. It is a commercial product, but it catered for my main needs of IMAP and push email. It's a simple out of the box install. > > Les > > On 26 November 2014 at 19:53, Stuart Burns > wrote: > Meh, will take another luck. I was just bein lazy lol > > On 26 November 2014 at 19:52, Michael Crilly > wrote: > That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). > > It’s basically IMAP, mate. > > >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of storage. >> >> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >> >> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >> >> - M >> >> >>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail for biz ? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 20:39:27 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:39:27 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <32605072-6E93-4801-ADBD-25BD16AC6A8D@mcrilly.me> References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> <32605072-6E93-4801-ADBD-25BD16AC6A8D@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Yes DigitalOcean are well worth a look. I've had some VPSs with them for a while now and never had any issues. I used to host my mailserver via broadband, which was fine but now with prices that low it's cheaper than Google or Office 365. On 26 November 2014 at 20:24, Michael Crilly wrote: > I can certainly understand paying for a solution (shifting responsibility, > maintenance, costs, etc), but I’m getting to the point where I think I > should be doing it my self! > > You too can have an army of server, Stuart! Just use DigitalOcean! About > £3/month for a decent, 512MB VM with 1TB of traffic. Throw £30/month at an > account per month and that’s a nice little farm :) > > > On 26 Nov 2014, at 20:21, Stuart Burns > wrote: > > But Les, don't you have an entire farm of redundant servers! > > On 26 November 2014 at 20:15, Les Pritchard > wrote: > >> I've used a combination of my own services and Google. Like Mike says, >> the Google / Office 365 services are just so easy to use. For my own >> servers I've used a variety of systems over the years including a good old >> Sendmail server. A few years back I looked at all the 'Exchange >> alternatives' available as I'd rather not have to build it all myself, >> especially the Activesync (push email) services. After trying out quite a >> few, I ended up with Axigen. It is a commercial product, but it catered for >> my main needs of IMAP and push email. It's a simple out of the box install. >> >> Les >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 19:53, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >>> Meh, will take another luck. I was just bein lazy lol >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 19:52, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did >>>> used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted >>>> integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected >>>> email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). >>>> >>>> It’s basically IMAP, mate. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an >>>> ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email >>>> when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. >>>> >>>> On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for >>>>> business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of >>>>> storage. >>>>> >>>>> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because >>>>> it makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more >>>>> control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >>>>> >>>>> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >>>>> >>>>> - M >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain >>>>> too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? >>>>> Gmail for biz ? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Stuart >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Stuart Burns >>>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>>> M: [redacted] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 20:48:48 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:48:48 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: <4D6FC9F0-C375-425D-9F7F-B4430097E5D3@mcrilly.me> <467A7100-0022-49D7-9392-F4B47C350219@mcrilly.me> <32605072-6E93-4801-ADBD-25BD16AC6A8D@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <20241632-4AAF-4D94-98CA-86AA712FD5A5@mcrilly.me> And with what I’m going demonstrate tomorrow night, you’ll see a mail server is an easy task for Ansible. > On 26 Nov 2014, at 20:39, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Yes DigitalOcean are well worth a look. I've had some VPSs with them for a while now and never had any issues. I used to host my mailserver via broadband, which was fine but now with prices that low it's cheaper than Google or Office 365. > > On 26 November 2014 at 20:24, Michael Crilly > wrote: > I can certainly understand paying for a solution (shifting responsibility, maintenance, costs, etc), but I’m getting to the point where I think I should be doing it my self! > > You too can have an army of server, Stuart! Just use DigitalOcean! About £3/month for a decent, 512MB VM with 1TB of traffic. Throw £30/month at an account per month and that’s a nice little farm :) > > >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 20:21, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> But Les, don't you have an entire farm of redundant servers! >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 20:15, Les Pritchard > wrote: >> I've used a combination of my own services and Google. Like Mike says, the Google / Office 365 services are just so easy to use. For my own servers I've used a variety of systems over the years including a good old Sendmail server. A few years back I looked at all the 'Exchange alternatives' available as I'd rather not have to build it all myself, especially the Activesync (push email) services. After trying out quite a few, I ended up with Axigen. It is a commercial product, but it catered for my main needs of IMAP and push email. It's a simple out of the box install. >> >> Les >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 19:53, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> Meh, will take another luck. I was just bein lazy lol >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 19:52, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> That doesn’t sound right. I use Mail in OSX, and K-9 on Android. I did used to use the official GMail app on Android until recently (I wanted integrated PGP support), and that worked fined for offline/disconnected email viewing (for previously downloaded items, obviously). >> >> It’s basically IMAP, mate. >> >> >>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:50, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> >>> Maybe. So with Gmail for biz, is there any way to keep your mail on an ipad. With the personal account, the Gmail app only seems to store email when it is has Wifi. It may be me, but I haven't had time to faff around. >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 19:46, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>> I want to bring up my own eventually, but for now, Google Apps for business. I pay about £20/month for two mail accounts and about 200GB of storage. >>> >>> It’s such a pain, in a way, how convenient these services are because it makes them difficult to leave afterwards. However I want to take more control of my data, so I will switch eventually. >>> >>> If you’re up for it, Stuart, we could setup a shared infrastructure? >>> >>> - M >>> >>> >>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 19:41, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. I just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail for biz ? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Stuart >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Wed Nov 26 21:05:17 2014 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:05:17 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> What is "Business class email" - as opposed to? Dave. On 26/11/14 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. I > just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail > for biz ? > > Regards > > Stuart > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 21:13:02 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:13:02 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> References: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> Message-ID: <9596935B-CE67-41C3-A0F8-E52519C10245@mcrilly.me> SLAs, high level uptime promises, support, etc. > On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:05, David Holden wrote: > > What is "Business class email" - as opposed to? > > Dave. > > > On 26/11/14 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain too. I >> just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail >> for biz ? >> >> Regards >> >> Stuart >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > -- > Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Nov 26 21:14:33 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:14:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <9596935B-CE67-41C3-A0F8-E52519C10245@mcrilly.me> References: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> <9596935B-CE67-41C3-A0F8-E52519C10245@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: someone i can shout at when it goes wrong ;) On 26 November 2014 at 21:12, Michael Crilly wrote: > SLAs, high level uptime promises, support, etc. > > > On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:05, David Holden wrote: > > > > What is "Business class email" - as opposed to? > > > > Dave. > > > > > > On 26/11/14 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain > too. I > >> just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail > >> for biz ? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Stuart > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > > > > -- > > Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Wed Nov 26 21:22:18 2014 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:22:18 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: References: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> <9596935B-CE67-41C3-A0F8-E52519C10245@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <54764483.50807@iucr.org> Lol, Ah OK. Yeah come to think of it I'm the one that usually gets shouted out. That said, we currently use RedHat postfix/imapd/popd and ASSP for spam. Dave. On 26/11/14 21:14, Stuart Burns wrote: > someone i can shout at when it goes wrong ;) > > On 26 November 2014 at 21:12, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> SLAs, high level uptime promises, support, etc. >> >>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:05, David Holden wrote: >>> >>> What is "Business class email" - as opposed to? >>> >>> Dave. >>> >>> >>> On 26/11/14 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain >> too. I >>>> just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail >>>> for biz ? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Stuart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From michael at mcrilly.me Wed Nov 26 21:26:10 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:26:10 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <54764483.50807@iucr.org> References: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> <9596935B-CE67-41C3-A0F8-E52519C10245@mcrilly.me> <54764483.50807@iucr.org> Message-ID: <88047702-C43A-43C8-B5E7-D9381E8C1C4D@mcrilly.me> Good setup there, Dave. I’m seriously considering this: http://archiveopteryx.org/ - you just need to configure Postfix and anything else in between, and it handles the storage and pulling/delivery to clients via IMAP. I’ve not used it yet, but I’ll let you know if I do. > On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:22, David Holden wrote: > > Lol, Ah OK. > > Yeah come to think of it I'm the one that usually gets shouted out. > > That said, we currently use RedHat postfix/imapd/popd and ASSP for spam. > > > Dave. > > > On 26/11/14 21:14, Stuart Burns wrote: >> someone i can shout at when it goes wrong ;) >> >> On 26 November 2014 at 21:12, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> SLAs, high level uptime promises, support, etc. >>> >>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:05, David Holden wrote: >>>> >>>> What is "Business class email" - as opposed to? >>>> >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26/11/14 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain >>> too. I >>>>> just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail >>>>> for biz ? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Stuart >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> > > -- > Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org ) > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Wed Nov 26 21:31:42 2014 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:31:42 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Mail servers In-Reply-To: <88047702-C43A-43C8-B5E7-D9381E8C1C4D@mcrilly.me> References: <54764080.3050708@iucr.org> <9596935B-CE67-41C3-A0F8-E52519C10245@mcrilly.me> <54764483.50807@iucr.org> <88047702-C43A-43C8-B5E7-D9381E8C1C4D@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <547646B0.7060701@iucr.org> Hi Michael, Looks interesting, yes if you do let me know how you get on. Cheers, Dave. On 26/11/14 21:25, Michael Crilly wrote: > Good setup there, Dave. > > I’m seriously considering this: http://archiveopteryx.org/ - you just need to configure Postfix and anything else in between, and it handles the storage and pulling/delivery to clients via IMAP. I’ve not used it yet, but I’ll let you know if I do. > >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:22, David Holden wrote: >> >> Lol, Ah OK. >> >> Yeah come to think of it I'm the one that usually gets shouted out. >> >> That said, we currently use RedHat postfix/imapd/popd and ASSP for spam. >> >> >> Dave. >> >> >> On 26/11/14 21:14, Stuart Burns wrote: >>> someone i can shout at when it goes wrong ;) >>> >>> On 26 November 2014 at 21:12, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> SLAs, high level uptime promises, support, etc. >>>> >>>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 21:05, David Holden wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What is "Business class email" - as opposed to? >>>>> >>>>> Dave. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 26/11/14 19:41, Stuart Burns wrote: >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am just looking at business class email that I can attach a domain >>>> too. I >>>>>> just wondered what most people are doing. Running your own, O365 ? Gmail >>>>>> for biz ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >> >> -- >> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org ) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Thu Nov 27 13:41:11 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:41:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] I have a goodie for tonight Message-ID: My Banana Pi just arrived if anyone is interested in it. I have not played with it yet. Double the RAM, CPU of a RasPi and also onboard SATA. Let me know if anyone is interested.... Anyone got any micro SDs and converters ;) -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 13:09:11 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:09:11 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly wrote: > Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) > > On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. It >> was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 13:15:51 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:15:51 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns wrote: >Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing > >On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly >wrote: > >> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >> >> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the >end. It >>> was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > >-- >Stuart Burns >E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >M: [redacted] > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Chester mailing list >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 13:20:45 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:20:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly wrote: > That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) > > Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? > > On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. >>>> It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>> >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 13:23:19 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:23:19 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder plugin/software provided? > On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns wrote: > > What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. > > Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. > > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly > wrote: > That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) > > Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? > > On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: > Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly > wrote: > Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) > > On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: > I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ > > > > > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 13:24:16 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:24:16 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly wrote: > It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC just > fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, > right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder > plugin/software provided? > > > > On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns > wrote: > > What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. > > Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC > front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC > but it looks like its a none starter. > > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >> >> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >> >> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. >>>>> It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>>> >>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 13:25:24 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:25:24 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big thing for some people. > On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly > wrote: > It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder plugin/software provided? > > > >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >> >> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. >> >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >> >> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >> >> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >> >> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >> >> >> >> >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder >> plugin/software provided? >> >> >> >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >> >> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC >> front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC >> but it looks like its a none starter. >> >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>> >>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>>> >>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the >>>>>> end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 14:04:57 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:04:57 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: That would work. Vagrant supports Linux, as does VirtualBox, so what are you waiting for? > On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns wrote: > > I could always try Vagrant on it ;) > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly > wrote: > Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big thing for some people. > > >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder plugin/software provided? >> >> >> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> >>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>> >>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. >>> >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>> >>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 14:07:50 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:07:50 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Lack of VT flag ;) On 28 November 2014 at 14:04, Michael Crilly wrote: > That would work. Vagrant supports Linux, as does VirtualBox, so what are > you waiting for? > > On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns > wrote: > > I could always try Vagrant on it ;) > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big >> thing for some people. >> >> >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has >> optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC >>> just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, >>> right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder >>> plugin/software provided? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns >>> wrote: >>> >>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>> >>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC >>> front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC >>> but it looks like its a none starter. >>> >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>>> >>>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>>>> >>>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the >>>>>>> end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 14:33:39 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:33:39 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Isn't the VT flag only for hardware level virtualisation? On 28 November 2014 14:07:38 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns wrote: >Lack of VT flag ;) > >On 28 November 2014 at 14:04, Michael Crilly >wrote: > >> That would work. Vagrant supports Linux, as does VirtualBox, so what >are >> you waiting for? >> >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> I could always try Vagrant on it ;) >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly >wrote: >> >>> Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big >>> thing for some people. >>> >>> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has >>> optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly >wrote: >>> >>>> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via >XBMC >>>> just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle >it fine, >>>> right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware >encoder >>>> plugin/software provided? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>>> >>>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking >XBMC >>>> front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it >as XMBC >>>> but it looks like its a none starter. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly >wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>>>> >>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup >thing >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in >the >>>>>>>> end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >brevity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >brevity. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > >-- >Stuart Burns >E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >M: [redacted] > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Chester mailing list >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 14:40:23 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:40:23 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: Hardware assist. Therefore VT will also help on type 2 hypervisors. It effectively creates a new ring 0.5 within the classic ring of protection model. On 28 November 2014 at 14:33, Michael Crilly wrote: > Isn't the VT flag only for hardware level virtualisation? > > On 28 November 2014 14:07:38 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < > stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Lack of VT flag ;) >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 14:04, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> That would work. Vagrant supports Linux, as does VirtualBox, so what are >>> you waiting for? >>> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns >>> wrote: >>> >>> I could always try Vagrant on it ;) >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big >>>> thing for some people. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has >>>> optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC >>>>> just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, >>>>> right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder >>>>> plugin/software provided? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>>>> >>>>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking >>>>> XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as >>>>> XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup >>>>>>> thing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the >>>>>>>>> end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Stuart Burns >>>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>>> M: [redacted] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 14:41:38 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:41:38 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <272FCA2F-FE40-4231-AA80-04FC9CAFEE5B@mcrilly.me> So software VT emulation should work. > On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns wrote: > > I could always try Vagrant on it ;) > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly > wrote: > Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big thing for some people. > > >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder plugin/software provided? >> >> >> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> >>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>> >>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. >>> >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>> >>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 14:44:10 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:44:10 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: <272FCA2F-FE40-4231-AA80-04FC9CAFEE5B@mcrilly.me> References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> <272FCA2F-FE40-4231-AA80-04FC9CAFEE5B@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: But ARM has no concept of VT as far as I know. On 28 November 2014 at 14:41, Michael Crilly wrote: > So software VT emulation should work. > > On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns > wrote: > > I could always try Vagrant on it ;) > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly wrote: > >> Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big >> thing for some people. >> >> >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns >> wrote: >> >> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has >> optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly wrote: >> >>> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC >>> just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, >>> right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder >>> plugin/software provided? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns >>> wrote: >>> >>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>> >>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC >>> front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC >>> but it looks like its a none starter. >>> >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly wrote: >>> >>>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>>> >>>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>>>> >>>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns < >>>>>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the >>>>>>> end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chester mailing list >>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Fri Nov 28 14:49:15 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:49:15 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Banana Pi review for those interested. In-Reply-To: References: <4895BBF1-E02A-479D-B96A-6D185D262CA9@mcrilly.me> <00625D9C-B0E9-4C7D-9AF5-C9A7FCB0989C@mcrilly.me> <272FCA2F-FE40-4231-AA80-04FC9CAFEE5B@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: <50FCF1DA-D100-4C56-A2B4-7432D6FDCBAC@mcrilly.me> If you emulate it in software, there doesn’t need to be a VT flag in hardware. That’s what I’m asking: can the VT functionality be emulated in the kernel, via software? It would be slower, a lot slower, but you would be able to test out Vagrant :) > On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:44, Stuart Burns wrote: > > But ARM has no concept of VT as far as I know. > > On 28 November 2014 at 14:41, Michael Crilly > wrote: > So software VT emulation should work. > >> On 28 Nov 2014, at 14:02, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >> I could always try Vagrant on it ;) >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:25, Michael Crilly > wrote: >> Oh dear. I think the RPi is winning then in my opinion. That’s a big thing for some people. >> >> >>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:24, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>> >>> Thats the issue. The GPU is not the same as the Pi and no one has optimised it. No hardware accelleration atm. >>> >>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:23, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>> It shouldn’t suck as XBMC. The RaspberryPi can handle 1080p via XBMC just fine - given the specs of the BI, it should be able to handle it fine, right? Is hardware encoding supported and is there a hardware encoder plugin/software provided? >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:20, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>>> >>>> What SD card ? ;) I need to buy one actually. >>>> >>>> Apart from that, I dunno what to use it for really. I was thinking XBMC front end but it sucks at XBMC. My mate wanted to try it to test it as XMBC but it looks like its a none starter. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:16, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>>> That's one use for it! Just keep in mind that's my SD card ;-) >>>> >>>> Are you going to plug a USB/SATA drive into it? >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 13:08:59 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>>> Yeah. I am now going to turn it into an apple time machine backup thing >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 at 13:07, Michael Crilly > wrote: >>>> Good stuff mate. Glad it's working for you in the end :-) >>>> >>>> On 28 November 2014 13:05:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >>>> I tried it when I got home last night, no issues with HDMI in the end. It was a late night so excuse any mistakes! >>>> >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/28/banana_pi_review/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stuart Burns >>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>>> M: [redacted] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chester mailing list >>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Burns >>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >>> M: [redacted] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chester mailing list >>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart Burns >> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com >> M: [redacted] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There were a few suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at the Funky Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for the latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. > > I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into the Funky Aardvark. > > If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting point. > > http://strawpoll.me/3083765 > > Thanks > > Les > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 23:18:57 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 23:18:57 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Christmas LUG In-Reply-To: <68360784-236F-426D-8CE9-1179C0BAE3FC@mcrilly.me> References: <68360784-236F-426D-8CE9-1179C0BAE3FC@mcrilly.me> Message-ID: he he, I'll have to do that next time :-) On 28 November 2014 at 22:55, Michael Crilly wrote: > Strawpoll? Why didn’t you create your own Enterprise class Java EE > application with full mobile support? > > > On 28 Nov 2014, at 22:54, Les Pritchard wrote: > > Hi all, > > Thanks to everyone who turned up last night, it was a good evening. Of > course a big thanks to Mike for his talk, it was really interesting. > > Following on from our discussions about the Christmas meal I thought I'd > send out a quick poll to get everyone's thoughts. We'd discussed Thursday > 11th before (avoiding the madness of the 12th!). There were a few > suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at the Funky > Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for the > latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. > > I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into the Funky > Aardvark. > > If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting point. > > http://strawpoll.me/3083765 > > Thanks > > Les > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From les.pritchard at gmail.com Sat Nov 29 11:08:30 2014 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:08:30 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Christmas LUG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks to those who've added your votes to the poll so far. Robin has pointed out that saving on the food means more for beer later! Thinking about it a little more, the takeaway option does sound good, as it will allow everyone to pick the type of food they'd like - "Freedom as in choice of food, not as in free beer"....you get my point. Plus we can have the usual chats without geeking out others. We could even stick a video on the projector whilst we eat. Any more thoughts or suggestions, just chip in here. Les On 28 November 2014 at 22:54, Les Pritchard wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks to everyone who turned up last night, it was a good evening. Of > course a big thanks to Mike for his talk, it was really interesting. > > Following on from our discussions about the Christmas meal I thought I'd > send out a quick poll to get everyone's thoughts. We'd discussed Thursday > 11th before (avoiding the madness of the 12th!). There were a few > suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at the Funky > Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for the > latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. > > I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into the Funky > Aardvark. > > If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting point. > > http://strawpoll.me/3083765 > > Thanks > > Les > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Nov 29 22:33:47 2014 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:33:47 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Christmas LUG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I really don't mind. I was thinking along same lines. On 29 Nov 2014 11:08, "Les Pritchard" wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks to those who've added your votes to the poll so far. Robin has > pointed out that saving on the food means more for beer later! > > Thinking about it a little more, the takeaway option does sound good, as > it will allow everyone to pick the type of food they'd like - "Freedom as > in choice of food, not as in free beer"....you get my point. Plus we can > have the usual chats without geeking out others. We could even stick a > video on the projector whilst we eat. > > Any more thoughts or suggestions, just chip in here. > > Les > > On 28 November 2014 at 22:54, Les Pritchard > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks to everyone who turned up last night, it was a good evening. Of >> course a big thanks to Mike for his talk, it was really interesting. >> >> Following on from our discussions about the Christmas meal I thought I'd >> send out a quick poll to get everyone's thoughts. We'd discussed Thursday >> 11th before (avoiding the madness of the 12th!). There were a few >> suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at the Funky >> Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for the >> latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. >> >> I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into the Funky >> Aardvark. >> >> If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting point. >> >> http://strawpoll.me/3083765 >> >> Thanks >> >> Les >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at mcrilly.me Sat Nov 29 23:23:05 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 23:23:05 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Christmas LUG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This honestly sounds like an epic evening. We could bring a laptop each, or not, and just generally be antisocial, stuffed with food, and drunk. We could even tie Stuart to a lamp post. On 29 November 2014 22:33:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns wrote: >I really don't mind. I was thinking along same lines. >On 29 Nov 2014 11:08, "Les Pritchard" wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks to those who've added your votes to the poll so far. Robin has >> pointed out that saving on the food means more for beer later! >> >> Thinking about it a little more, the takeaway option does sound good, >as >> it will allow everyone to pick the type of food they'd like - >"Freedom as >> in choice of food, not as in free beer"....you get my point. Plus we >can >> have the usual chats without geeking out others. We could even stick >a >> video on the projector whilst we eat. >> >> Any more thoughts or suggestions, just chip in here. >> >> Les >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 22:54, Les Pritchard >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Thanks to everyone who turned up last night, it was a good evening. >Of >>> course a big thanks to Mike for his talk, it was really interesting. >>> >>> Following on from our discussions about the Christmas meal I thought >I'd >>> send out a quick poll to get everyone's thoughts. We'd discussed >Thursday >>> 11th before (avoiding the madness of the 12th!). There were a few >>> suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at >the Funky >>> Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for >the >>> latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. >>> >>> I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into the >Funky >>> Aardvark. >>> >>> If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting >point. >>> >>> http://strawpoll.me/3083765 >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Les >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Chester mailing list >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Nov 30 04:17:16 2014 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (robin592 at yahoo.co.uk) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 04:17:16 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Christmas LUG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201411300418.56796.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> My raspberry pi works. Everything worked first time, nothing went wrong. Blimey! Who wudve thunk it? What about a drunken multiplayer halo rampage? On Saturday 29 November 2014 23:23:19 Michael Crilly wrote: > This honestly sounds like an epic evening. We could bring a laptop each, or not, and just generally be antisocial, stuffed with food, and drunk. We could even tie Stuart to a lamp post. > > On 29 November 2014 22:33:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns wrote: > >I really don't mind. I was thinking along same lines. > >On 29 Nov 2014 11:08, "Les Pritchard" wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Thanks to those who've added your votes to the poll so far. Robin has > >> pointed out that saving on the food means more for beer later! > >> > >> Thinking about it a little more, the takeaway option does sound good, > >as > >> it will allow everyone to pick the type of food they'd like - > >"Freedom as > >> in choice of food, not as in free beer"....you get my point. Plus we > >can > >> have the usual chats without geeking out others. We could even stick > >a > >> video on the projector whilst we eat. > >> > >> Any more thoughts or suggestions, just chip in here. > >> > >> Les > >> > >> On 28 November 2014 at 22:54, Les Pritchard > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Thanks to everyone who turned up last night, it was a good evening. > >Of > >>> course a big thanks to Mike for his talk, it was really interesting. > >>> > >>> Following on from our discussions about the Christmas meal I thought > >I'd > >>> send out a quick poll to get everyone's thoughts. We'd discussed > >Thursday > >>> 11th before (avoiding the madness of the 12th!). There were a few > >>> suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at > >the Funky > >>> Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for > >the > >>> latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. > >>> > >>> I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into the > >Funky > >>> Aardvark. > >>> > >>> If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting > >point. > >>> > >>> http://strawpoll.me/3083765 > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Les > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Chester mailing list > >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From michael at mcrilly.me Sun Nov 30 07:37:07 2014 From: michael at mcrilly.me (Michael Crilly) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:37:07 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Christmas LUG In-Reply-To: <201411300418.56796.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201411300418.56796.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Haha. Make it a LAN party? On 30 November 2014 04:18:55 GMT+00:00, robin592 at yahoo.co.uk wrote: >My raspberry pi works. Everything worked first time, nothing went >wrong. >Blimey! Who wudve thunk it? > >What about a drunken multiplayer halo rampage? > > >On Saturday 29 November 2014 23:23:19 Michael Crilly wrote: >> This honestly sounds like an epic evening. We could bring a laptop >each, or >not, and just generally be antisocial, stuffed with food, and drunk. We >could >even tie Stuart to a lamp post. >> >> On 29 November 2014 22:33:30 GMT+00:00, Stuart Burns > wrote: >> >I really don't mind. I was thinking along same lines. >> >On 29 Nov 2014 11:08, "Les Pritchard" >wrote: >> > >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Thanks to those who've added your votes to the poll so far. Robin >has >> >> pointed out that saving on the food means more for beer later! >> >> >> >> Thinking about it a little more, the takeaway option does sound >good, >> >as >> >> it will allow everyone to pick the type of food they'd like - >> >"Freedom as >> >> in choice of food, not as in free beer"....you get my point. Plus >we >> >can >> >> have the usual chats without geeking out others. We could even >stick >> >a >> >> video on the projector whilst we eat. >> >> >> >> Any more thoughts or suggestions, just chip in here. >> >> >> >> Les >> >> >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 22:54, Les Pritchard > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> >> >>> Thanks to everyone who turned up last night, it was a good >evening. >> >Of >> >>> course a big thanks to Mike for his talk, it was really >interesting. >> >>> >> >>> Following on from our discussions about the Christmas meal I >thought >> >I'd >> >>> send out a quick poll to get everyone's thoughts. We'd discussed >> >Thursday >> >>> 11th before (avoiding the madness of the 12th!). There were a few >> >>> suggestions on food, including the option of having a takeaway at >> >the Funky >> >>> Aardvark for those looking to keep the costs down. If we went for >> >the >> >>> latter we could head on out for a few drinks after. >> >>> >> >>> I had a chat with Jay and he's happy for us to bring food into >the >> >Funky >> >>> Aardvark. >> >>> >> >>> If you could complete this poll it will help give us a starting >> >point. >> >>> >> >>> http://strawpoll.me/3083765 >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> >> >>> Les >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chester mailing list >> >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Chester mailing list >> >Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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