From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 13:02:43 2015 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 13:02:43 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A little help DNS weirdness in Linux mint. Help required Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I decided to make the jump from Windows 7 to Linux Mint rather than end up on the MS pay to play that is coming with Windows 10 in year 2 (I kid you not!) Anyhow, for the most part the install went ok (There was some docking station weirdness but turning it off and on again fixed it. Go figure) Anyhow, the real problem is the DNS. I have set up my DHCP client so it gets it's address automatically. I am able to resolve my internal hosts without issue.. thinkpad stuart # nslookup > vc Server: 192.168.0.201 Address: 192.168.0.201#53 Name: vc.test.local Address: 192.168.0.204 External works fine.. > linux.org Server: 192.168.0.201 Address: 192.168.0.201#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: linux.org Address: 107.170.40.56 However, when trying to connect to an internal URL using the FQDN mentioned above, I get a timeout about not being able to resolve the address. Well weird. I have checked in Firefox and it is set to direct connection. The application is up and working, It worked without issue in Windows 7. Does anyone have any ideas about this weird behavior ? It just seems that Firefox cannot resolve internal addresses but fine with everything else. Regards Stu -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dh at iucr.org Sat Jun 6 07:43:48 2015 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 07:43:48 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A little help DNS weirdness in Linux mint. Help required In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5572A4A2.30106@iucr.org> On 05/06/15 14:02, Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I decided to make the jump from Windows 7 to Linux Mint rather than end > up on the MS pay to play that is coming with Windows 10 in year 2 (I kid > you not!) You heard something? I think they'd be on very dodgy legal ground making W10 subscription based after free upgrade offer. On below, have you tried using another browser? Dave. > > Anyhow, for the most part the install went ok (There was some docking > station weirdness but turning it off and on again fixed it. Go figure) > > Anyhow, the real problem is the DNS. I have set up my DHCP client so it > gets it's address automatically. > > I am able to resolve my internal hosts without issue.. > thinkpad stuart # nslookup >> vc > Server: 192.168.0.201 > Address: 192.168.0.201#53 > > Name: vc.test.local > Address: 192.168.0.204 > > External works fine.. > >> linux.org > Server: 192.168.0.201 > Address: 192.168.0.201#53 > > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: linux.org > Address: 107.170.40.56 > > > However, when trying to connect to an internal URL using the FQDN > mentioned above, I get a timeout about not being able to resolve the > address. Well weird. I have checked in Firefox and it is set to direct > connection. > > The application is up and working, It worked without issue in Windows > 7. Does anyone have any ideas about this weird behavior ? > > It just seems that Firefox cannot resolve internal addresses but fine > with everything else. > > Regards > > Stu > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -- Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Sat Jun 6 08:18:36 2015 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 08:18:36 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A little help DNS weirdness in Linux mint. Help required In-Reply-To: <5572A4A2.30106@iucr.org> References: <5572A4A2.30106@iucr.org> Message-ID: Hi. Yep I tried a couple of browsers, no go. On the other matter MS haven't said as much but that is the ultimate goal after conversations I have had off the record with people who deal with such matters. I may have it wrong. YMMV. Windows 10 is the last version of Windows ever. That is direct from MS. People that upgrade will get a copy. However you will find that any new features that come out after a year require a paid for upgrade. Ie service packs that add functionality will now cost. There are also several streams to choose from as to how mature you want your patches, ie similar to Linux nightlies v stable etc. This is all in the roadmap. The only exception to this is that you will always get security fixes On 6 Jun 2015 08:43, "David Holden" wrote: > > > On 05/06/15 14:02, Stuart Burns wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I decided to make the jump from Windows 7 to Linux Mint rather than end > > up on the MS pay to play that is coming with Windows 10 in year 2 (I kid > > you not!) > > You heard something? I think they'd be on very dodgy legal ground making > W10 subscription based after free upgrade offer. > > > On below, have you tried using another browser? > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > Anyhow, for the most part the install went ok (There was some docking > > station weirdness but turning it off and on again fixed it. Go figure) > > > > Anyhow, the real problem is the DNS. I have set up my DHCP client so it > > gets it's address automatically. > > > > I am able to resolve my internal hosts without issue.. > > thinkpad stuart # nslookup > >> vc > > Server: 192.168.0.201 > > Address: 192.168.0.201#53 > > > > Name: vc.test.local > > Address: 192.168.0.204 > > > > External works fine.. > > > >> linux.org > > Server: 192.168.0.201 > > Address: 192.168.0.201#53 > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: linux.org > > Address: 107.170.40.56 > > > > > > However, when trying to connect to an internal URL using the FQDN > > mentioned above, I get a timeout about not being able to resolve the > > address. Well weird. I have checked in Firefox and it is set to direct > > connection. > > > > The application is up and working, It worked without issue in Windows > > 7. Does anyone have any ideas about this weird behavior ? > > > > It just seems that Firefox cannot resolve internal addresses but fine > > with everything else. > > > > Regards > > > > Stu > > > > -- > > Stuart Burns > > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > > M: [redacted] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > -- > Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jun 6 13:05:05 2015 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (Robin Hemuss) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:05:05 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] A little help DNS weirdness in Linux mint. Help required In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201506061405.58181.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> I might have completely got my wires crossed here, but I'm sure I remember someone telling me that Micrsoft use address 0 to refer to the network, with the first computer on the network being at address 1. This causes problems with configuration since real IP doesn't do this. Thought I'd mention it just in case that's what's happening. Robin On Friday 05 June 2015 14:02:32 Stuart Burns wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I decided to make the jump from Windows 7 to Linux Mint rather than end up > on the MS pay to play that is coming with Windows 10 in year 2 (I kid you > not!) > > Anyhow, for the most part the install went ok (There was some docking > station weirdness but turning it off and on again fixed it. Go figure) > > Anyhow, the real problem is the DNS. I have set up my DHCP client so it > gets it's address automatically. > > I am able to resolve my internal hosts without issue.. > thinkpad stuart # nslookup > > vc > Server: 192.168.0.201 > Address: 192.168.0.201#53 > > Name: vc.test.local > Address: 192.168.0.204 > > External works fine.. > > > linux.org > Server: 192.168.0.201 > Address: 192.168.0.201#53 > > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: linux.org > Address: 107.170.40.56 > > > However, when trying to connect to an internal URL using the FQDN mentioned > above, I get a timeout about not being able to resolve the address. Well > weird. I have checked in Firefox and it is set to direct connection. > > The application is up and working, It worked without issue in Windows 7. > Does anyone have any ideas about this weird behavior ? > > It just seems that Firefox cannot resolve internal addresses but fine with > everything else. > > Regards > > Stu > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > From les.pritchard at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 14:21:13 2015 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:21:13 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Thursday meet Message-ID: Hi all, This Thursday will be the next Chester LUG meet at the Funky Aardvark. If anyone has a topic to give a quick demo / talk on please let me know. At the end of last month's meet a few of us discussed the idea of watching 'Freedom Downtime' during the meet as a bit of an alternative. I'm happy to bring along the appropriate hardware for that if people are interested in it? 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I'm happy to > bring along the appropriate hardware for that if people are interested in > it? > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart.james.burns at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 15:12:45 2015 From: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com (Stuart Burns) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:12:45 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Thursday meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If we have a new member join who is called "John Smith" I think we should all get a little n ervous. They are watching ;) On 24 June 2015 at 16:04, Thomas Prophett wrote: > I'll be interested in watching Freedom downtime again.. > > > On 22 June 2015 at 15:21, Les Pritchard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> This Thursday will be the next Chester LUG meet at the Funky Aardvark. If >> anyone has a topic to give a quick demo / talk on please let me know. >> >> At the end of last month's meet a few of us discussed the idea of >> watching 'Freedom Downtime' during the meet as a bit of an alternative. I'm >> happy to bring along the appropriate hardware for that if people are >> interested in it? >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chester mailing list >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chester mailing list > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > -- Stuart Burns E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com M: [redacted] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 24 19:26:53 2015 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (John Smith) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:26:53 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Thursday meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201506242027.43237.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Well I've heard the security for the Coop bank is dead easy to crack because they only use ethically sourced virus checkers. Round up all the non-integer payments into a hidden account anyone? h4x0rZ On Wednesday 24 June 2015 16:12:28 Stuart Burns wrote: > If we have a new member join who is called "John Smith" I think we should > all get a little n > ervous. They are watching ;) > > On 24 June 2015 at 16:04, Thomas Prophett > wrote: > > > I'll be interested in watching Freedom downtime again.. > > > > > > On 22 June 2015 at 15:21, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> This Thursday will be the next Chester LUG meet at the Funky Aardvark. If > >> anyone has a topic to give a quick demo / talk on please let me know. > >> > >> At the end of last month's meet a few of us discussed the idea of > >> watching 'Freedom Downtime' during the meet as a bit of an alternative. I'm > >> happy to bring along the appropriate hardware for that if people are > >> interested in it? > >> > >> Les > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > From robin592 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 24 19:55:33 2015 From: robin592 at yahoo.co.uk (Robin Hemuss) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:55:33 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Google's filter bubble Message-ID: <201506242056.28176.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Just joking, it's only me! I just wanted to ask if anyone's heard of, or concerned about, Google's alleged 'filter bubble', as describe here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuJ369f1wCs about 2 minutes in. Apparantly identical searches for Egypt returned different results for different people, depending on what Google's algorithms decided they would most likely want to hear. If that doesn't worry you, then you shoud probably worry about not being worried! It strikes me as very worrysome. Shouldn't there be some way of a user explicitly choosing the sort order of their results themselves, instead of leaving it to Google? And what would be the best way of doing that? Whenever I use Google I usually get links to Wikipedia, the BBC and the Guardian. Loaded question of course, but is that normal? Just wondered. Robin From les.pritchard at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 13:29:32 2015 From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:29:32 -0000 Subject: [Chester LUG] Thursday meet In-Reply-To: References: <201506242027.43237.robin592@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: A quick reminder the meet is tonight. See you later. On 24 Jun 2015 20:26, "John Smith" wrote: Well I've heard the security for the Coop bank is dead easy to crack because they only use ethically sourced virus checkers. Round up all the non-integer payments into a hidden account anyone? h4x0rZ On Wednesday 24 June 2015 16:12:28 Stuart Burns wrote: > If we have a new member join who is called "John Smith" I think we should > all get a little n > ervous. They are watching ;) > > On 24 June 2015 at 16:04, Thomas Prophett > wrote: > > > I'll be interested in watching Freedom downtime again.. > > > > > > On 22 June 2015 at 15:21, Les Pritchard wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> This Thursday will be the next Chester LUG meet at the Funky Aardvark. If > >> anyone has a topic to give a quick demo / talk on please let me know. > >> > >> At the end of last month's meet a few of us discussed the idea of > >> watching 'Freedom Downtime' during the meet as a bit of an alternative. I'm > >> happy to bring along the appropriate hardware for that if people are > >> interested in it? > >> > >> Les > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chester mailing list > >> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chester mailing list > > Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester > > > > > > > -- > Stuart Burns > E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com > M: [redacted] > _______________________________________________ Chester mailing list Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: