From les.pritchard at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 20:18:08 2017
From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard)
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:18:08 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Red Hat free for developers
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https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download/?sc_cid=701f2000000tgXRAAY
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From stuart at newlymintedmedia.com  Mon Oct  2 20:38:16 2017
From: stuart at newlymintedmedia.com (stuart at newlymintedmedia.com)
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:38:16 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Red Hat free for developers
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Interesting. I did know they had this. Be careful though as everything comes with a cost where RHEL. Wonder if it comes with the extra repos that contain the good stuff.

> On 2 Oct 2017, at 21:17, Les Pritchard via Chester <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download/?sc_cid=701f2000000tgXRAAY
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From chris at cenolan.com  Tue Oct  3 07:11:45 2017
From: chris at cenolan.com (Chris Nolan)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:11:45 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Red Hat free for developers
In-Reply-To: <E2B1C134-68DF-47EB-88BE-53797D616F60@newlymintedmedia.com>
References: <CAC_G_sCnXF-arwDwj3jkufkk2pmswAG6ZSsfPJ+kNxfpekd-QA@mail.gmail.com>
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I've been aware of this for a while and use CentOS extensively. Any 
suggestions why one would use this and not just use CentOS?

I'm not there will be any hidden costs but RedHat do have a very 
efficient marketing team so expect to be hounded by them and their 
solution partners once they have your contact details!

Chris

On 02/10/2017 21:36, stuart--- via Chester wrote:
> Interesting. I did know they had this. Be careful though as everything 
> comes with a cost where RHEL. Wonder if it comes with the extra repos 
> that contain the good stuff.
>
> On 2 Oct 2017, at 21:17, Les Pritchard via Chester 
> <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>> wrote:
>
>> https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download/?sc_cid=701f2000000tgXRAAY
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From les.pritchard at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 08:24:58 2017
From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 08:24:58 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Red Hat free for developers
In-Reply-To: <4679d25c-29b6-0b58-0158-052cc784f9a0@cenolan.com>
References: <CAC_G_sCnXF-arwDwj3jkufkk2pmswAG6ZSsfPJ+kNxfpekd-QA@mail.gmail.com>
 <E2B1C134-68DF-47EB-88BE-53797D616F60@newlymintedmedia.com>
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I certainly wouldn't recommend using it for any production systems. CentOS
is definitely the way to go for that if you're not willing to hand over
lots of money!

Where this could be useful is for development work. If you're developing
software to be run in the enterprise then the odds are it will be run on
RedHat in a lot of places. So being able to develop / test on the same
distro would really help. Clearly one of RedHat's motives is to encourage
people to target their distro for software. Very much like Microsoft, who
give away copies of Windows Server to students and provide lots of
discounted developer licenses for their OSes.

Les

On 3 October 2017 at 08:11, Chris Nolan via Chester <
chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> I've been aware of this for a while and use CentOS extensively. Any
> suggestions why one would use this and not just use CentOS?
>
> I'm not there will be any hidden costs but RedHat do have a very efficient
> marketing team so expect to be hounded by them and their solution partners
> once they have your contact details!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 02/10/2017 21:36, stuart--- via Chester wrote:
>
> Interesting. I did know they had this. Be careful though as everything
> comes with a cost where RHEL. Wonder if it comes with the extra repos that
> contain the good stuff.
>
> On 2 Oct 2017, at 21:17, Les Pritchard via Chester <
> chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download/?sc_
> cid=701f2000000tgXRAAY
>
> --
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
>
>
>
>
>
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From stuart at newlymintedmedia.com  Sun Oct  8 22:33:25 2017
From: stuart at newlymintedmedia.com (stuart at newlymintedmedia.com)
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2017 22:33:25 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in the
	browser.
Message-ID: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>

Just a quick one… Looks like FF are “experimenting” with adware/spyware bundled into the browser. Worth a read..https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_secretly_sneak_the/ <https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_secretly_sneak_the/> Not gone in depth but it’s all a bit naughty imho.


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From les.pritchard at gmail.com  Sun Oct  8 23:04:13 2017
From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard)
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2017 23:04:13 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in
 the browser.
In-Reply-To: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>
References: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>
Message-ID: <CAC_G_sA43yuXC=BcBASP_SHA1TwsAx4Za9nnhvt-mvryvWe92A@mail.gmail.com>

Oh dear, that's not good. Someone recommended Brave Browser to me recently.
It has a built in ad blocker. Tried it a little bit and it seemed to work
well.

On 8 Oct 2017 11:33 pm, "stuart--- via Chester" <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>
wrote:

> Just a quick one… Looks like FF are “experimenting” with adware/spyware
> bundled into the browser. Worth a read..https://www.reddit.com/
> r/privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_
> to_secretly_sneak_the/ Not gone in depth but it’s all a bit naughty imho.
>
>
>
> --
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From stuart at newlymintedmedia.com  Mon Oct  9 13:22:24 2017
From: stuart at newlymintedmedia.com (stuart at newlymintedmedia.com)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:22:24 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in
	the browser.
In-Reply-To: <CAC_G_sA43yuXC=BcBASP_SHA1TwsAx4Za9nnhvt-mvryvWe92A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>
 <CAC_G_sA43yuXC=BcBASP_SHA1TwsAx4Za9nnhvt-mvryvWe92A@mail.gmail.com>
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Problem is that Brave inject their own ads into other peoples content ☹ I am just trying to build Chromium for lols now 😊

 

From: Les Pritchard [mailto:les.pritchard at gmail.com] 
Sent: 09 October 2017 00:04
To: stuart at newlymintedmedia.com; chester <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in the browser.

 

Oh dear, that's not good. Someone recommended Brave Browser to me recently. It has a built in ad blocker. Tried it a little bit and it seemed to work well. 

 

On 8 Oct 2017 11:33 pm, "stuart--- via Chester" <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> > wrote:

Just a quick one… Looks like FF are “experimenting” with adware/spyware bundled into the browser. Worth a read..https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_secretly_sneak_the/ Not gone in depth but it’s all a bit naughty imho.

 

 


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From les.pritchard at gmail.com  Mon Oct  9 14:52:17 2017
From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:52:17 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in
 the browser.
In-Reply-To: <004c01d34101$7308b6c0$591a2440$@newlymintedmedia.com>
References: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>
 <CAC_G_sA43yuXC=BcBASP_SHA1TwsAx4Za9nnhvt-mvryvWe92A@mail.gmail.com>
 <004c01d34101$7308b6c0$591a2440$@newlymintedmedia.com>
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Have you looked at Firefox Focus? Isn't that supposed to be added free?

Trouble is very few companies are willing to support a modern browser
without some form of income.

On 9 Oct 2017 2:20 pm, <stuart at newlymintedmedia.com> wrote:

> Problem is that Brave inject their own ads into other peoples content ☹ I
> am just trying to build Chromium for lols now 😊
>
>
>
> *From:* Les Pritchard [mailto:les.pritchard at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 09 October 2017 00:04
> *To:* stuart at newlymintedmedia.com; chester <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling
> adware in the browser.
>
>
>
> Oh dear, that's not good. Someone recommended Brave Browser to me
> recently. It has a built in ad blocker. Tried it a little bit and it seemed
> to work well.
>
>
>
> On 8 Oct 2017 11:33 pm, "stuart--- via Chester" <
> chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Just a quick one… Looks like FF are “experimenting” with adware/spyware
> bundled into the browser. Worth a read..https://www.reddit.com/r
> /privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_
> secretly_sneak_the/ Not gone in depth but it’s all a bit naughty imho.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Chester mailing list
> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
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From les.pritchard at gmail.com  Mon Oct  9 20:22:40 2017
From: les.pritchard at gmail.com (Les Pritchard)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:22:40 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in
 the browser.
In-Reply-To: <CAC_G_sCSu-n-sGsggrGw8CxKSi7RnhCuerFoNBui3AVJ1SwVQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>
 <CAC_G_sA43yuXC=BcBASP_SHA1TwsAx4Za9nnhvt-mvryvWe92A@mail.gmail.com>
 <004c01d34101$7308b6c0$591a2440$@newlymintedmedia.com>
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Message-ID: <CAC_G_sAvEe4yYPrDeegHJPOFR6KoJ84_W+CMOg7D3tpmRX+_1g@mail.gmail.com>

For anyone interested in Brave's policy on adverts. They block what they
term 'bad ads' and tracking with other ads. It sounds like an interesting
post that recognises that websites need to make money, so blocking all ads
can be seen as being unfair.

https://www.brave.com/about-ad-replacement/

On 9 October 2017 at 15:51, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you looked at Firefox Focus? Isn't that supposed to be added free?
>
> Trouble is very few companies are willing to support a modern browser
> without some form of income.
>
> On 9 Oct 2017 2:20 pm, <stuart at newlymintedmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Problem is that Brave inject their own ads into other peoples content ☹
>> I am just trying to build Chromium for lols now 😊
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Les Pritchard [mailto:les.pritchard at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 09 October 2017 00:04
>> *To:* stuart at newlymintedmedia.com; chester <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling
>> adware in the browser.
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh dear, that's not good. Someone recommended Brave Browser to me
>> recently. It has a built in ad blocker. Tried it a little bit and it seemed
>> to work well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 Oct 2017 11:33 pm, "stuart--- via Chester" <
>> chester at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Just a quick one… Looks like FF are “experimenting” with adware/spyware
>> bundled into the browser. Worth a read..https://www.reddit.com/r
>> /privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_secr
>> etly_sneak_the/ Not gone in depth but it’s all a bit naughty imho.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
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From stuart at newlymintedmedia.com  Mon Oct  9 20:36:09 2017
From: stuart at newlymintedmedia.com (stuart at newlymintedmedia.com)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:36:09 -0000
Subject: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in
 the browser.
In-Reply-To: <CAC_G_sAvEe4yYPrDeegHJPOFR6KoJ84_W+CMOg7D3tpmRX+_1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <893886EB-21C6-439A-A34A-C57AFB29A4E4@newlymintedmedia.com>
 <CAC_G_sA43yuXC=BcBASP_SHA1TwsAx4Za9nnhvt-mvryvWe92A@mail.gmail.com>
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It is a minefield for sure. Trying Waterfox on the mac at the moment and it looks good. Mac only unfortunately	
Stuart Burns, vExpert, Director
Newly Minted Media Ltd
Great Western House
Boundary Lane
Chester

+44 [redacted]



> On 9 Oct 2017, at 21:22, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For anyone interested in Brave's policy on adverts. They block what they term 'bad ads' and tracking with other ads. It sounds like an interesting post that recognises that websites need to make money, so blocking all ads can be seen as being unfair.
> 
> https://www.brave.com/about-ad-replacement/ <https://www.brave.com/about-ad-replacement/>
> 
> On 9 October 2017 at 15:51, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com <mailto:les.pritchard at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Have you looked at Firefox Focus? Isn't that supposed to be added free?
> 
> Trouble is very few companies are willing to support a modern browser without some form of income.
> 
> On 9 Oct 2017 2:20 pm, <stuart at newlymintedmedia.com <mailto:stuart at newlymintedmedia.com>> wrote:
> Problem is that Brave inject their own ads into other peoples content ☹ I am just trying to build Chromium for lols now 😊
> 
>  
> 
> From: Les Pritchard [mailto:les.pritchard at gmail.com <mailto:les.pritchard at gmail.com>] 
> Sent: 09 October 2017 00:04
> To: stuart at newlymintedmedia.com <mailto:stuart at newlymintedmedia.com>; chester <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] Looks like Firefox got caught bundling adware in the browser.
> 
>  
> 
> Oh dear, that's not good. Someone recommended Brave Browser to me recently. It has a built in ad blocker. Tried it a little bit and it seemed to work well. 
> 
>  
> 
> On 8 Oct 2017 11:33 pm, "stuart--- via Chester" <chester at mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:chester at mailman.lug.org.uk>> wrote:
> 
> Just a quick one… Looks like FF are “experimenting” with adware/spyware bundled into the browser. Worth a read..https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_secretly_sneak_the/ <https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/750vsm/firefox_devs_discussing_how_to_secretly_sneak_the/> Not gone in depth but it’s all a bit naughty imho.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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