[Cumbria] comments

[Ken Hough]

David,

Do please hang in there. The likes of us (ie actual or potantial desktop 
users) can get a lot from a user group. the always will be healthy (even 
strong) discussion on some topics. Only by pitching in and giving your 
view will anybody know you are there.

I don't believe any of this has been taken personally by recipients of 
comments. Some of my comments have perhaps been strong. If that has 
caused offence, I appologise. You have to shake the odd tree to get 
coconuts to fall.

Like you, did a lot on an old IMB PC/XT -- which I still have. I'm an 
unashamed user (practically 100%) of Linux for the desktop. I'm also 
intersted in learning more, but that's another aspect.

If we are going to get the professional IT guys to talk about our 
intersts, then we must lean on them a bit. After they have got Linux 
sorted on servers etc, they may well start to get interested in getting 
their users onto Linux.

Hope that you will reconsider. I need some support.

Ken Hough


David Latimer wrote:

> 
>Having just downloaded for the first time since last night, quite a
>volume.
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>Few points.  
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>I am a Linux novice but started messing with an XT when I started an OU
>degree 13 years ago and am experienced at DOS and all the varieties of
>Windows.  There are five computers here ranging from a P133 server that
>someone was giving away to this XP1700 machine and I am not about to
>switch away to machines other than PCs.  For five years I have ran an
>amateur radio packet BBS on two computers controlling four radios and
>with wholly RF links.  Seeing other sysops elsewhere in the country do
>more under Linux than I was doing in DOS was what brought me first to
>Linux.  I have also been a Usenet group user for several years after
>being a CIX user before.  Some groups have been good but others are full
>of opinion and prejudice paraded as facts.  Is that familiar?
>
>I didn't suggest that discussions about distros were not useful just
>that they be done using temperate language. 
>
>I am not new to this group having been at the first meeting and at every
>one since except one.  We had a number of people attend in the beginning
>who stopped attending.  These were all from the Barrow & Furness area.
>At least two told me that they found the Jamie & Chris activity at the
>meetings to be far from encouraging and sufficient deterrent to cease coming.  
>They were of similar experience to myself ie novices who might have gone 
>on to embrace Linux as desktop users.
>
>There is a lot more I could say but things would become more poisonous. 
>I have tried to support Mike B and Dave Y as friends of mine as well as
>pick up something as I go along and I thought the LUG would be an
>inclusive rather than an exclusive group but this doesn't seem the view
>amongst all.  Dave Murphy and Ken Hough in particular have been
>encouraging however.  That said, I have felt out of place here in this
>group recently and further acrimony will only develop because I am
>willing and articulate enough to speak my mind.  I will leave you lads
>to it and continue my Linux experience with friends.
>
>Dave M...please remove me from the mailing list and from any listings as
>a LUG member.
>
>Dave
>David Latimer
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