[Cumbria] Red Hat shoots itself in foot?

[Paul Broomfield]

Yeah. I guess so, though I am not telling any one else that they should
not have there pretty desktops. Why would anyone want to have X on a
collocated box. If graphical is the desired interface type then webmin
does the job better than most. I may have a look at debian, but I think
that I will see if I can get something minimal going. The less that is
on there the less that I have to update.


Paul

>-----Original Message-----
>From: cumbria-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk 
>[mailto:cumbria-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Plant
>Sent: 28 January 2003 19:05
>To: Cumbria LUG
>Subject: RE: [Cumbria] Red Hat shoots itself in foot?
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>
>On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 18:56, Paul Broomfield wrote:
>> To be honest I am also rethinking my OS strategy at the 
>moment. Almost 
>> all the production environment runs redhat and I am getting 
>a bit sick 
>> of the upgrade treadmill. I have also had yet another 
>up2date -u turn 
>> into a reboot request. I am now seriously looking again at BSD this 
>> time FreeBSD. ( I did develop on OpenBSD and gave up because 
>I had to 
>> emulate everything ). I am beginning to see the benefit in actually 
>> paying for an OS though I still think that $1000 is just way 
>over the 
>> top. For me I just need a nice clean base OS that has some form of 
>> package management and where it is easy to update things 
>when they go 
>> wrong. FreeBSD was quite an easy install, and so far I have 
>managed to 
>> get all the console toys installed without any fuss at all ( 
>color ls 
>> and all that ). I have done an install without any X at all 
>( just the 
>> way I like it ) and the whole thing takes up less than 600M. I am 
>> going to have a go at battering it a little bit and see how 
>we get on.
>Whats up with debian, it can do all of what you're asking for there ?
>> 
>> What I want to know is why oh why is Redhat and others 
>focusing on the 
>> Desktop side of things? I would pay for a version of Linux that had 
>> automatic patches and nothing what so ever to do with X. I can dream.
>> 
>
>Because people like "us" (I use that term very loosely) faff 
>around saying linux should be a desktop OS.
>
>> Paul Broomfield
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: cumbria-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> >[mailto:cumbria-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ken Hough
>> >Sent: 28 January 2003 18:05
>> >To: cumbria@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> >Subject: Re: [Cumbria] Red Hat shoots itself in foot?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Schwuk wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Not quite sure how I feel about this one...
>> >> 
>> >> Apparently [1] Red Hat are introducing a one life span to their
>> >> consumer OSes (i.e. anything free). After this one year, no 
>> >new errata
>> >> or updates will be produced, although existing ones will remain
>> >> available. This is, as pointed out in the articles linked 
>below [2] 
>> >> [3], obviously done to push people (or rather companies) 
>> >towards their
>> >> advanced products.
>> >
>> >They must be joking!
>> >That's even worse than Microsoft!
>> >
>> >Ken
>> >
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> Oh, and to save Ken the trouble: Yes this does relate to
>> >running Linux
>> >> on big boxes (although it will also impact all usage of 
>linux), and
>> >> yes we all know that SuSE (and UnitedLinux in this case) 
>are worthy 
>> >> alternatives...
>> >
>> >I wouldn't dream of rubbing salt into wounds!
>> >Seriously, it does seem daft when there are so many alternatives.
>> >
>> >Ken
>> >
>> >
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