[dundee] Image hard drive to file

[Lee Hughes]

So, let get technical here..

what 'filesystem' are you talking about exactly Robert?

are you talking about a journaled or non journaled filesystem?

you don't mention it your post?

also, what do you deem no activity? not clicking the mouse on x windows?

on a multiuser system, what exactly is non activity? you ever heard of cron?

If I say something can't be done, then I expect either, for them to go away
and research it, and get the answer, or in fact ask why?....

not argue with me, on list and the have some poor fsck user try it 
and trash all thier data...

hey, I stuck my head in a washing machine today, and I'm still alive...

really, I'll try that...

okay, perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps you could directy me to somewhere
either on the internets or in  book that says dd'ing file system while they
are mounted is cool!!!

I await your html inks!!!

;-)

goodnight!



Robert McWilliam <rmcw at allmail.net> wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:39:58 +0000, "Andrew Clayton"
 said:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:55:52 +0000 (GMT), Lee Hughes wrote:
> 
> > you cant image a filesystem while it's mounted.
> > 
> > either unmount it, or boot from a live disc, and do what you will to
> > it from there!
> > 
> 
> Works fine on a mounted fs.

Yes, being mounted doesn't actually cause problems, but being in use
will. If the partition you are imaging changes while you are taking the
image then you will get a corrupt image. dd basically copies data from a
source file to a destination file in chunks, starting at the beginning
and working its way through. Changes to a file system have to happen in
a couple of places to happen properly, e.g. to create a file you have to
put the data somewhere on the disk and update the file table to say
where the file is and how big it is and possibly some other stuff. If
that happens while dd is taking an image of the file system then the
image might only get some of the changes as the others are to areas
where dd has already made a copy of the old data. 

To the OP: You'll want to ensure the file system isn't in use
(unmounting is the easiest way to be sure) and then run something along
the lines of:

dd if=/dev/
 of=/path/to/put/image

Robert
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