[dundee] multi boot

Tue Jul 1 01:32:31 BST 2008

i recommend at least having a quick play around with virtualbox to see how
kid's-play easy it is.

all u need is,
host OS, whatever you are on just now, even windows.
download virtualbox if it's not already on it,
and a linux ISO, either live, or install (if u have more hd space to spare
for it)

et viola.

i've really only used it for browsing through distributions, as indeed,
there are some aspects which require some extra fiddling with to get to
fully function, though i'm told it's all perfectly do-able.   and as per
your needs, you may never even get so far as to find out what doesnt work.
though, coding and so on is outside my area of knowledge, so, dont know if
what you'd be using it for would hit stumbling blocks with virtualised
systems.

there are significant advantages with virtualisation.  it makes the whole
system a bit more flexible, and although you take a performance knock, this
is often worth it from other practical productivity gains, especially if you
need a multi platform environment or are likely to be in windows one moment
and linux the next.  no need for reboots.

but dont take my word for it, theres still lots i have yet to learn about
it, such as how to get seamless mode to work.   mmmm....  windows and linux
on the same screen, rather than the guest os in a little window.   very
swish.

all the best with your current project.

"Hi Nustur,

Probably not the answer you're looking for but I've noticed that Asus Mobo's
have boot loader built into them, just press F8 on the POST screen and pick
your boot drive/device.

Cheers
Barry
"

oh... other manufacturers dont include that as standard these days?   golly.
i just take it for granted now.   it's saved me so much hassle so many
times.

2008/6/30 Nistur <nistur at googlemail.com>:

> @Digit I haven't looked into Virtualisation yet as I thought that it would
> be more hassle than having separate installs, assuming I get some bootloader
> to play nice. If it comes to that I may go for virtualisation though.
>
> @azmodie I'll have a look at that, certainly looks like a possibility,
> thanks
>
> Now I need to get my backside in gear and make sure I've got everything
> ready to format :)
>
> Nistur
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Digit (SG) <digit.siljrath at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> is it really necesary for u to have them on seperate boots?   have you
>> looked into virtualisation options?
>> that way it's easier to keep microsoft contained.
>> treat windows like a virus if possible i say.  hehe.
>>
>> http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com
>>
>>
>> 2008/6/30 Nistur <nistur at googlemail.com>:
>>
>>> Cool, I might try GAG then, I was going to comment on the name... but
>>> it's not even much worse than GRUB :P
>>> My problem was the Vista bootloader mainly liking to steal the XP one. I
>>> don't know by reading the sf page whether GAG will help with that but I just
>>> found this
>>> http://www.zezula.net/en/fstools/bcdeditor.html
>>> that may be of assistance to me :D The only problem would then be
>>> claiming the XP bootloader back for use in XP as I believe Vista replaces
>>> the XP one...
>>>
>>> We shall see. I'm not round to that yet. I think I will probably wait
>>> until I have my nice shiny new DX10 card so I don't have to mess around too
>>> much with drivers and such.
>>>
>>> @RJLadyman: Vista + Linux isn't a problem (apart from the fact it's
>>> Vista) It's Vista + XP + Linux. I don't really want to have to go through 2
>>> layers of bootloader to boot an M$ OS, I just want options in whatever
>>> bootloader I choose to use for each OS and to boot straight from there
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM, gordon dunlop <
>>> astrozubenel at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use GAG boot manager which can handle 2 hard disks and 9 operating
>>>> systems
>>>> http://gag.sourceforge.net/pics.html
>>>> I put grub or Lilo on the O.S. partition and use GAG. It works with
>>>> Vista & XP detecting the NTFS partition and booting via GAG. I have
>>>> just recently installed GAG on a relative's new computer so they can
>>>> boot into Vista or Linux Mint.
>>>>
>>>> Gordon
>>>>
>>>> 2008/6/30 Nistur <nistur at googlemail.com>:
>>>> > Slightly connected with my last thread. I'm going to reformat my PC.
>>>> It's a
>>>> > mess and I need *shudder* Vista for DX10 programming next year and I'm
>>>> > currently backing things up and planning my install procedures. So far
>>>> I can
>>>> > forsee a few problems and I wondered whether anyone knew if they were
>>>> > fixable.
>>>> > I'm wanting to definately have Vista, Linux of some flavour, XP, BSD
>>>> and
>>>> > possibly try OSx86 as it claims to work on my hardware (we shall see)
>>>> I do
>>>> > not however want the Windows bootloader asking me whether I want Vista
>>>> or XP
>>>> > after going past grub. Does anyone know any way of installing Vista
>>>> and XP
>>>> > so that they have separate bootloaders? I'm not quite sure how this
>>>> would
>>>> > work. Was considering installing one, changing the filesystem type
>>>> with a
>>>> > liveCD and installing the other, but this will probably mess up
>>>> windows
>>>> > drive letters and things.
>>>> > Does anyone know of any way of installing the two and having them have
>>>> their
>>>> > own boot loaders that grub can chainload?
>>>> >
>>>> > Nistur
>>>> >
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The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. The language is
not Narn, or Human, or Centauri, or Gaim or Minbari. It speaks in the
language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the
language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of
the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It
is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our
inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We
are one. No matter the blood; skin; world; star; We are one. No matter the
pain; darkness; loss; fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common
cause. we agree to recognise this singular truth, and this singular rule:
That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and
ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the
Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better
future. We are one.
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