[Glastonbury] Newbie to Glastonbury LUG

[Sean Miller]

> You should know better :)  Stable (in Solaris terms) means people
> wanting to stick with 2.6 / 2.7 because they don't want to change their
> entire infrastructure or change to something new/untried (Oracle 9 vs
> Oracle 11?).  Debian stable has had anything up to a couple of years of
> testing and is warranted as stable for long term stability.  Not bleeding
> edge, not changing every couple of months - the sort of thing you'd use
> at a busy ISP.

Sorry? Oracle 11 does not exist yet.

Andy - why have you got involved? I suspect because Martin has phoned you to
ask you to... well, in future please research your material before you
post.. wonderful of you to *invent* an Oracle version to support your
arguments... Oracle 10g comes out at the end of the year!! Clearly your
"Oracle 11" will re-invent Oracle's marketplace, whatever it might be...
probably time to get on the phone to Larry Ellison!! :-)

> Don't talk about diversity without knowing where you stand and trying a
> few distributions for an extended period.  Don't try a credentials war
> on the mailing list either - you may find the experience unsettling.

You will find it more unsettling, I assure you.

> I've used, at various times and for varying periods and (have
> probably installed Linux a few hundred times overall on various
> machines and disks) one or more of the following:
>
> Slackware 2.0 / 4.0 / 7.0
>
> Linux FT 1.0/1.1/2.0
>
> Red Hat 5.0/5.1/5.2/6.2/7.0/7.1/7.2/7.3/8.0/9.0 and betas
>
> Mandrake 7x/8x/9/9.1
>
> SuSE 6.4/7.1/8.0
>
> Smoothwall / Gibraltar firewalls

In other words,  no coherence in life. Struggling to find something you
like, and throwing it away with a pinch because you just can't find utopia.
We have Linux as a concept that doesn't need to be branded, that has many
vendors, many evangelists and many many many nooks and crannies to be
found...

..and then there's you... obsessed with Debian at the expense of all
others... almost like a Microsoft consultant "If you don't have Debian you
might as well not have Linux - because the other distros are cr at p" -- why??

It is clearly anti-Linux !! Mr Cater... please justify why you hate all
non-Debian Linux distros (with your friend Martin) so much?

> That's the Linuxes.  I've also used Free/Net/BSD's, of various
> vintages and installed as my own admin SCO UnixWare and SCO OpenServer
> and various vintages of OpenBSD.
>
> I've used the following commercial Unixes:
>
> SunOS 4.3/Solaris 2.5/2.6/2.8 on SPARC and 2.7 on Intel.

Yawn!

>
> (Also OS/360, HP/UX, IRIX, UNICOS, OSF/1, Tru64 at one time or another).
>
> I'll hack shell sripting fairly well and Perl less well - but I've been
> using Linux actively since before October 1994 so call that an even 9
> years. I was using DOS and Windows for about 9 years before that and
> am constrained to use Windows at work on occasion.  Oh, and I hacked
> technical support for thirty people at work and ran an internet cafe for
> a charity in my copious spare time :)

You hack shell scripts? Very admirable... as somebody who has *programmed*
shell scripts for a few years, I think that hackers are great... but of
limited use.

> > This is LUGOG (Linux User Group Of Glastonbury) *NOT* DUGOG (Debian User
> > Group of Glastonbury) -- PLEASE bear that in mind.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Sean
> >
> We'd noticed :)

...and ever more shall be so :-)

Sean