Hi, I wasn't at the talk so I can not comment on that but I just got this link at work there are some interesting theories being expounded here that would make sense in the light of M$ history. TCP/MS anyone? http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html Regards Jim -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug