Ill bring my laptop then, i wont be able to join in for a good 7 horus while i make my laptop boot :-) maybe ill get a free one or sommat. OT. i saw wh smiths are selling ipaq in southend-on-sea :-) bredroll -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug