[Gllug] Editors

David Freeman freemadi at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Jul 29 22:29:05 UTC 2001


 --- Tom Gilbert <tom at linuxbrit.co.uk> wrote: > * Bruce Richardson
(brichardson at lineone.net) wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 07:12:57PM +0100, Tom Gilbert wrote:
> > > a) If the authorities do ask for your data, and you have done
> nothing
> > > illegal, what is the problem?
> > 
> > My problem is that it should be my choice?  Why should the
> authorities
> > have the right to know anything and everything about me, not matter
> that
> > I have committed no crime.
> > 
> > You have the question the wrong way round.  If I have done nothing
> > illegal, why are they asking for my data?  What is their problem?
> > 
> > You can tatto your date of birth, sexual preferences etc on your
> > forehead if it makes you happy.  If I choose to keep these things
> to
> > myself, I shouldn't be forced arbitrarily to reveal them.
> 
> _If you are suspected of a serious criminal activity_.
> 
> I don't give a toss about your date of birth. I _do_ give a toss if
> you
> have pictures of my 9yr-old step daughter on your hard drive.

I think its upto you as a good parent to look after your step daughter
and make sure she doesn't get in the situation where such a photo can
occur.

I wish people would look at the cause and not the symptoms. An ounce of
prevention etc....

Why are we infringing on the rights of the many as the few can't parent
properly and make sure that there kids don't get in the situation where
 they can be taken advantage of.

I am on no way saying you are a bad parent here, I have never met you.

> > There's not the slightest evidence that RIP will help against
> crime, any
> > more than the "Prevention of Terrorism Act" ever prevented an act
> of
> > terrorism.  Besides, the whole point is that you don't need to be a
> > suspect of anything.  If you possess encrypted data then not
> handing it
> > over at the authorities request is a crime in itself.  The mere
> > existence of the data itself constitutes grounds for action, should
> the
> > authorities so choose.
> 
> They aren't going to know you have encrypted data unless they have
> already got a warrant to search your premises, in which case they
> already have a body of proof against you.

You sent an encrypted email to fred at spam.com who has been arrested for
child pron. We are now investigating you to see if you have any.

Remember if I was to give a letter to a person in the US with a name on
it, it will take an average of 6 hops to get to the recipient. There is
a good chance you know someone (who may know someone, repeat till
bored) that is guilty of <insert hidious crime here> you would be
amazed at how links are made.

Thanks

D
 
> Tom.
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