[Gllug] Website hosting recommendations?

[Jason Clifford]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tethys wrote:

> If you get anywhere with this, let me know. While scp itself works fine
> without shell access, it doesn't let you see the files on the remote
> machine. You either know what and where they are, or you're stuck.
> Fine for you and me, but no good for our clients who are lost without
> a point and drool interface.

I don't think there is any way to make ssh/scp easy for those who need a 
point and drool UI.

I am also considering SSL with FTP however that again isn't an easy one as 
those same users probably wont want to use one of the clients that 
supports it properly.

> The windows scp clients (pscp excepted) tend to do and "ssh ls" to get a
> list of files, and hence they need at least some form of shell access.
> At the moment, I've given them a restricted shell (/bin/rksh on OpenBSD).
> I suppose I could take that a bit further and chroot it as well. But
> ideally, I'd like to be able to remove that altogether.

Yes and the scp only offering I've seen becomes full ssh rather too 
easily. It may well be that chroot'd shell will be necessary for those who 
must have scp. I have yet to see.

> Does anyone know if sftp requires shell access? I haven't had sufficient
> time to play around with it yet. The other solution I'm toying with is
> writing a small shell that only supports the ls command and then exits.
> But I'd rather have a cleaner solution...

You'll also need chmod.

Jason
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