[lbw] [Fwd: [Gllug] [OffTopic] trip to Germany]

[Rodger Etz-Brown]

My 2 pennies as I live in Germany:

- If you can avoid it, don't get anything from Deutsche Telekom. No
  phone line, no I-net access (T-Online), no DSL. Just don't bother with
  them.
- Like Everard said, check out www.heise.de for comparisons of ISP's and
  DSL providers.
- There are now a lot of local service providers that quite often offer
  good packages whereby you get ISDN and DSL incl. some hefty discounts
  or free minutes for your telephone calls.

If you (or anybody else for that matter) need help finding a provider
because your German's a bit rusty email me off the list and I can try to
help you.

Laters,
REB

On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:41:26PM +0100, Everard Brown wrote:
> Walid,
> 
> More info.... (I guess I was wrong about D-Telecom...)
> 
> 
> <--- somebody else's more recent experience --->
> 
> Well since D. Telecom is totally clueless .....My conversation with them
> this afternoon goes something like this.
> 
> Hello howcome my line is now working but the transfer speed is so slow. 2-3K
> average since this morning.
> 
> Their answer OH that must BE your Computer please call T-Online.
> 
> My answer was simple...."I tried TDSL with all 8 of my computers in my house
> linux, unix, windows, macs they are ALL SLOW" At which point the nice man on
> the other end agreed
> to put in a trouble ticket, or at least that is what the service droid told
> me.
> 
> So I asked what the ticket number was so if I need to I could call back, he
> said "oh, 1) you do not need to call back 2) that number is for OUR
> (D.telecom) internal use only and I can not give it to you"
> 
> So basically what does this tell you.....well a) he did not bother tapping
> on his keyboard or even writing it down, 2) they really DO NOT CARE  3) DT
> really has not ceased to be the BIG UNCARING Monolith
> 
> So what did help....well I went for a Beer and came back home and voila
> things seem to be working again.
> 
> ps: I did get wise and checked www.heise.de as they have a database of dsl
> failures from all over the country and noticed that munchberg the town
> beside me and 4 other towns were having the same problems.
> 
> Remember if you want to order Deutsche Telecom's find ADSL product. call
> 0800-DSL-SUCKS.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Everard Brown [mailto:EverardBrown at perpetua.ltd.uk]
> > Sent: 04 June 2002 10:32
> > To: gllug at linux.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [lbw] [Fwd: [Gllug] [OffTopic] trip to Germany]
> >
> >
> > Walid,
> >
> > ISPs: D-Telecom(The giant like BT, but cares), GMX(similar deal
> > to Tiscali), a few good Internet cafes near to Hauptwache station
> > (exit by the church and go down the narrow road on the southern
> > parallel to Zeil - you'll know it when you see it).
> >
> > MODEMS: Most people are using ISDN or some kind of DSL/broadband
> > connection.
> >
> > PLACES TO STAY: Any place more than 1/2 mile away from Frankfurt
> > Hauptbahnhof - again, you'll know it when you see it. Wiesbaden
> > (~1 hour from the city by train or car) is nice, but a little
> > pricey - the nightlife has a more appealing variety than
> > Frankfurt city centre.
> >
> > Hope this helps...
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-lbw at eartha.cyberware.co.uk
> > > [mailto:owner-lbw at eartha.cyberware.co.uk]On Behalf Of John Hearns
> > > Sent: 04 June 2002 08:17
> > > To: lbw at eartha.cyberware.co.uk
> > > Subject: [lbw] [Fwd: [Gllug] [OffTopic] trip to Germany]
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone give Walid some advice?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Forwarded Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Walid Shaari <ws at melinux.com>
> > > To: gllug at linux.co.uk
> > > Subject: [Gllug] [OffTopic] trip to Germany
> > > Date: 03 Jun 2002 01:16:37 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I will be traveling to Germany/ (Frankfurt,Wiesbaden,Mein areas) and I
> > > was wondering if I can have any hints regarding ISPS(modem) or good
> > > places to stay in Frankfurt where there is connectivity, I might have to
> > > stay there for a long time(4-6 weeks)! any leads/hints will be
> > > appercaited
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Walid
> > >
> > >
> > >
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