are the permissions for /dev/FIFO.modem the same as for /dev/ttyS0? (ie, are they the same device node ?) You could try deleting /dev/FIFO.modem (making a note of its maj/min nos first !), since it appears that the process re-creates it. Tim -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug