[Gllug] Civilization for Linux

Richard Cohen richard at vmlinuz.org
Thu Feb 6 16:49:11 UTC 2003


On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Andrew Halliwell wrote:

> >
> > Doug Winter writes:
> >
> > >Civ III certainly works under WineX:
> > >
> > >http://www.transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=3D52
> > >
> > >Well worth the transgaming subscription, I reckon :)
> >
> > While I'm usually fairly pragmatic about such things, I do have issues
> > with Transgaming's ethics, and so won't support them on principle.
> > Contrast them with Codeweavers, who not only have a great product,
> > but are definitely on the side of the good guys.
>
> Does this mean that Transgaming have taken a GPL project (wine), produced
> WineX and have placed restrictions on its distribution in a totally non-gpl
> compliant way?

No.

They took a BSD-like project, added restricted code to it, and distribute it
as WineX.  This gave enough impetus for the core Wine developers to do the
neccesary to change the license to LGPL...

There are now 4 major Wine distributions:
'winehq' Wine, which is the core project...
ReWind, which is a continuation of development under the original BSD-like
license, starting from the last 'winehq' release under that license...
CodeWeavers Wine, which is a nicely packaged and supported version of the
'winehq' Wine...
WineX, which actually exists in two versions - there is open source, but
their distributed (to memeber only) binaries contain code which isn't in
their public source tree, because they've licensed it from third parties...

When all this happened, it was a little messy, and there were some nasty
accusations from and against various people, but it's pretty much calmed
down by now.

> If they have, then it's perfectly within your rights to do what you want
> with their wineX. They broke the license so they don't have any rights to
> add anything more to the license.
>
> No source code on a GPL derived project == open invite to legal "pirating"
> AFIAC.
>
> Or did they get the Wine team to grant them exclusive rights to release
> under a different license?

Neither :-) see above...

Cheers
Richard

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