[Gllug] Red hat 8 subscription

Paul Cupis paul at cupis.co.uk
Sat Jun 7 13:35:25 UTC 2003


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On Wednesday 04 Jun 2003 10:53, itsbruce at uklinux.net wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:13:54AM +0100, Tethys wrote:
> > PS. Oh, and if you do go the Debian route, please try and avoid
> > being sucked into the "dpkg is better than rpm" propaganda trap.
> > It's not. They're pretty equal. Nor does it help you avoid
> > dependency problems.
>
> <debian user> This is true.  They're pretty equal and some things are
> easier with rpm.  It's apt that makes the difference on Debian.  Red
> Hat offers no real equivalent (the Red Hat Network is *not* the same
> thing, nor is rpmfind), though apt-rpm can be installed on Red Hat. 
> When Red Hat offer a proper package management tool and the ability
> to upgrade a production system from one major version to the next
> without a reboot, I'll be impressed.
> </debian user>

It's not apt that makes the difference, it's Debian Policy.

apt is simply the tool which does dependancy resolution and allows you 
to easily download and install the pacakges you want/require.

The fact that these dependancies are correct is down the the Debian 
Developers and their Policy. The fact that you are able to upgrade from 
one stable revision to another is a by-product of this. The fact that 
you can "migrate postgres 7.0 to postgres 7.3 rebuilding any databases 
appropriately" is a by-product of Debian Policy and the effort that the 
Debian package maintainer has put in.

rpm, apt-rpm, up2date etc are probably quite capable of doing much if 
not all that dpkg, apt etc can do, but there is no point in being able 
to do dependancy resolution if the package does not (correctly) specify 
it's dependancies. There is no point being able to download/install the 
latest packages (and security updates) if by doing so you destroy your 
configuration. On these points, Debian shines.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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paul at cupis.co.uk

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