[Gllug] Re: www.spews.org - spamming blacklist

Alex Newnham alx at satta.co.uk
Tue Jun 3 08:15:28 UTC 2003


IME, ISPs use blacklists to stop their SMTP servers drowning in Spam.
Bandwidth is pretty cheap these days. It's also worth remembering there
are quite a few blacklists, with differing policies. They aren't all as
OTT as Spews.

When I worked on the helldesk, complaints were about 10:1 (complaints
about spam) : (complaints about mail bouncing due to blacklists). I used
to come in in the morning and wonder which servers were still up and
running, and which had been blasted away by Spam! When the engineers put
spamcop on the servers, the situation improved a great deal.

At the end of the day, there's enough choice in the marketplace for people
and businesses to vote with their feet - and this does occur when bad
policies are introduced by an ISP. I could only really imagine anyone
using SPEWS in desperation.

my 2p's worth.


Alex

> The real issue here is ISPs, who choose to use blacklists as a cheap way
> of reducing the amount of mail they have to carry.  Certainly the
> reasoning may be inspired by stopping spam, but it justifies
> exploitation of ISP's users.  Those users pay for a mail service, and
> they aren't receiving it, because perfectly legitimate users are unable
> to send them email.
>
> The economics of that argument may work for ISPs, but I really don't see
> how it works for users.
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> doug.
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> --
> As soon as questions of will or decision or reason or choice of action
> arise, human science is at a loss. -- Noam Chomsky
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