[Gllug] Java sucks

Tethys tet at accucard.com
Sat Mar 8 08:24:17 UTC 2003


Doug Winter writes:

>But, like Tet mentioned initially, /usr/ucb/ps -wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaux
>tells you all you need to know.

Of course, any more than two "w"s is superfluous...

>I agree Java is irretrievably broken, and I've got a list of complaints
>as long as my arm, but I don't think this makes it onto the list.

I disagree. I think it does make it onto the list. Even though you *can*
get at all the information, it's not in a sensible format, and that makes
it essentially useless:

accuadm   8818  0.0  7.09669670080 ?        S   Mar 05  1:41 /accucard/java/bin/../bin/sparc/native_threads/java -server -Dver=tomcat4 -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/accucard/tomcat-4.1.18a/bin:/accucard/tomcat-4.1.18a/common/endorsed -classpath /accucard/java/lib/tools.jar:/accucard/tomcat-4.1.18a/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/accucard/tomcat-4.1.18a -Dcatalina.home=/accucard/tomcat-4.1.18a -Djava.io.tmpdir=/accucard/tomcat-4.1.18a/temp org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
ccuadm   8853  0.1 21.4267856214568 ?        S   Mar 05 91:00 /accucard/java/bin/../bin/sparc/native_threads/java -server -Djava.security.policy==../conf/tomcat.policy -Dtomcat.home=.. org.apache.tomcat.startup.Main start

At least with the defined property method we currently use, we get a single
line that's relataively easy to parse by eye:

 accuadm  8818     1  0   Mar 05 ?        1:41 /accucard/java/bin/../bin/sparc/native_threads/java -server -Dver=tomcat4 -Djav
  accuadm  8853     1  0   Mar 05 ?       91:01 /accucard/java/bin/../bin/sparc/native_threads/java -server -Djava.security.pol

Tet

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