[Gllug] natwest fantasticness

[Paul Nasrat]

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:25:57PM +0100, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 01:57:13PM +0100, Tethys wrote:
> > 
> > Simon Perry writes:
> > 
> > >I reckon the new cards/system are called *chip* and pin because they use 
> > >a *chip* not a magnetic strip.
> > 
> > They use both, and yes, the PIN is stored on the magstripe.
> 
> Are you sure about that?  Does anybody have a url for the actual
> mechanism?

Only thing I can remember is Ross Anderson's work eg:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/wcf.html

There may be something more recent than that though, for extra fun:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/descrack/DEScracker.html

Paul
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