[Gllug] Please End this Topic

[Ian Norton]

This is very very OT,

I admit starting it (to some extent) but think that if someone wants to carry
this on, we should open a gllug-flame list.

Ian

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 02:06:07PM +0100, Wiehe, Simon wrote:
> Your reasoning is interesting, but in some cases is totally flawed.
> 
> Without the petroleum industry there would probably not be computers, things
> like polythene (yes I know it is not biodegradable) would not be here where it
> not for this industry and then there would be no insulation in that little box
> you are reading this on.
> 
> The use of guns, knives, crossbows, bows, arrows and even sticks and stones
> (you can club people to death with these) are also evil. It is not the tool
> but the person using it that is evil.
> 
> Huge resources are tied up in a lot of other things as well, does that make
> them evil ?
> 
> More pollution comes from the power station that generates the electricity you
> are using to power the PC you are reading this on than from a car.
> 
> Their use does not discourage investment in public transport. Greedy
> executives do that nicely on their own. Why would anyone use a train to get
> from London to Manchester when it is cheaper to do it by car and uses less
> natural resources per head than the train. Have you ever tried travelling on
> the London tube in the rush hour ? People use their cars because they cannot
> get on the tube in the first place.
> 
> Hmmm, no malicious intent into a murderer. To be murder it has to be
> premeditated. I think you are confusing murder with manslaughter. No less
> wrong but not murder.
> 
> I cannot argue with the necessity/convenience factor, except when my son
> needed to go to hospital it was by no means a convenience. Me using my car
> meant that I did not take an ambulance away from a more urgent call.
> 
> Simon
> 
> PS. I will not reply to any messages because I don't want to start a flame
> war. Just thought I would point out where your argument is flawed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gllug-bounces at gllug.org.uk [mailto:gllug-bounces at gllug.org.uk]On
> Behalf Of Russell Howe
> Sent: 04 October 2004 13:11
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] RMS hurt in fatal road accident?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 01:23:40PM +0100, Wiehe, Simon wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity, why are cars evil ?
> 
> Hrm, maybe I should qualify that somewhat..
> 
> The existence and use of cars is evil:
> 
> * It encourages the petroleum industry, which might have some rather
>   nice computers, but which is evil.
> * Their use tends to end in death in a small but significant proportion
>   of cases
> * Huge amounts of resources are tied up managing and recovering from the
>   use and abuse of cars. Insurance, policing, roadbuilding, road
>   furniture, government departments, jails, hospitals, etc.
> * They pollute
> * Their use discourages investment in public transport, which should be
>   promoted.
> * They can turn somebody with no malicious intent into a murderer
>   very easily
> * They are rarely necessary, merely convenient
> * http://www.anti-rice.org/
> 
> I would say that people who drive cars are evil, but then I'd be
> accusing most of the so-called modern world of being evil, and that
> would take more justification that is possible on a Monday.
> 
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