[Gllug] Debian: Help with problems cleaning up consequences of an extended 'duh' moment...

[Jim Bailey]

On Nov 10, 02:53, Adrian McMenamin wrote:
> On Fri, November 10, 2006 2:11 pm, Jim Bailey wrote:
> > On Nov 08, 11:24, James Roberts wrote:
> >> Martin A. Brooks wrote:
> >> >I think the moral of the story here is "don't use webmin".
> >>
> >> Well - to be fair it was not webmin's fault that it broke (or Debians) -
> >> it was mine.
> >>
> >> The main reason for using webmin is to provided as management interface
> >> for staff that are competent in windows but barely so in Linux.
> >>
> >> Webmin achieves this utility. They are not going to learn more Linux.
> >>
> >> Any other suggestions to achieve this end?
> >
> > Not Plesk, please $deity not Plesk!!!
> 
> 
> What's wrong with Plesk? (Open question, just wondering)

When you have 80 Virtuozzo VPSs and 1,000 domains to migrate to modern
OSs and you have to use the god awful tools that SWsoft providse you
with.  You wouldn't ask that question. ;)

Control panels are wrong, evil bastard spawn of satan.  when they are
closed source and don't do what they say on the tin and have brain
damaged defaults like 24 hour TTL on DNS.....

This has been my life for the last 3 months and will be my life for the
next $x months until every single one of our fully managed customers are
migrated to the new Virtuozzo EZ-template system.

Which is actually a very nice virtualisation system lovely in fact, it
is just a shame that SWsoft smashed the concept of a clean migration
path to get there.

I have in effect become a LAMP integration developer for 80 clueless
web-monkeys not that I hold been clueless against them that why they
chose a fully managed Plesk VPS so this kind of pain wasn't theirs.

-- 
Peace Jim :-)

 Heisenberg may have slept here

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