[Gllug] Microsoft was distributing Ubuntu

Bruce Richardson itsbruce at workshy.org
Wed Jul 4 13:57:36 UTC 2007


On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 02:39:34PM +0100, Chris wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > I was very careful in my use of tense and terminology.  "not *having
> 
> innodb has been enabled by default since 4.0, which was released almost
> 6 *years* ago. Postgres *still* doesn't have replication.
> 
> So your complaint is that software lacks features while it's still in
> heavy feature development? what a terrible sin.... oh wait.

I'm sure the MySQL AB people will be thrilled by your defense of them,
but the timing isn't relevant to the point I was making, which was about
a serious deficiency in Postgres, one that is as indefensible now as the
lack of transaction support was in MySQL *back when they didn't have
it*.  Not that I feel inclined to cut MySQL much slack on that issue,
because back then they put out some very dishonest material in defense
of the lack of transactions and ACID compliance.  The open source
community is remarkably tolerant of projects that say "We don't have
important feature X, it's on the road map and here is how to work round
that in the meantime" but that is not what they did.  It doesn't matter
how many years have passed since they stopped talking bollocks; they
were talking bollocks.

This is relevant, because the core Postresql development community is as
obtuse on the subject of replication now as MySQL AB was about ACID
then.  This is made all the more galling by the fact that some of them
make a living from either selling proprietary replication solutions or
consulting services based on the various flaky open source add-ons.

-- 
Bruce

I must admit that the existence of Disneyland (which I know is real)
proves that we are not living in Judea in AD 50. -- Philip K. Dick
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