I've used touch for years, and wanted to set permissions on some files I was creating. So, for the first time ever, I pulled up the man page and found it does not mention the creation of files. Is this a command everyone knows about but no one has 'written up'? John. -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug