[Gllug] VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator / PHP Developer

[Andy Smith]

Hi Martin,

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:57:46PM +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote:
> "If you are posting an advert for a job vacancy your subject line should 
> begin with '*VACANCY:* ' and include some sensible text describing your 
> message. Only post if your message contains all relevant information.".....
> 
> The OP has manifestly complied with these rules, so I don't see your 
> problem.

There are several issues here.

Some people do not think there should be job postings on this list
at all.  These voices seem to be in a minority (of the already small
number of subscribers who actively post to begin with)

Others do not like the large threads spawned by job posts.  The
problem here is that often, the content of a perfectly valid post
(according to The Rules) is contentious.

The post that started this thread is contentious in my opinion: it
asks for the "perfect" candidate across 2 to 4 different
disciplines, where a "perfect" candidate in any one of them should
command way more than the salary offered.  (I am not interested in
debating this; good luck to them in filling that role and well done
for framing it in accordance with the list rules)

The Camalyn posts were contentious because they breached the rules
of the list, but even if they had been brought into line with the
rules of the list I think they would still have generated
controversy, given that the job offered is located in Reading, has
been hawked around since January, has popped up on every LUG list
from Gloucestershire to Dorset, etc etc.

My point is that we probably can't have job posts on this list
without accepting the resultant discussion threads.

Personally speaking the threads do not bother me and the existing
rules are fine; I think that the criticism and threat of moderation
keep the job posters (of all stripes) in line, and when some critics
are too harsh then there is usually a supply of others ready to
correct them too.

Equally though, I personally would not care if a dedicated jobs list
sprung up where discussion was not permitted, and this list no
longer accepted job vacancies.  linuxjobs already exists though so
what is the point?  It's not London-centric - if that's deemed a big
enough reason to spawn yet another list then why not.  Perhaps
whoever really wants this should run it.

Maybe it is better to decide whether we want the threads, not the
vacancy posts themselves?

Cheers,
Andy

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