I seem to recall reading that Ebbsfleet (just around the corner from us) is gonna get fibre. However, we at our commercial premises, are still stuck with a long copper connection which runs at no more than 2Mbps on a good day and 512Kbps on a bad one ! Tim -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug