[Gllug] OT!!! Re: VACANCY: Junior Systems Support

[general_email at technicalbloke.com]

Christopher Hunter wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 04:05 +0100, general_email at technicalbloke.com
> wrote:
>
>   
>> If I understand you correctly (and there doesn't seem to be much grey
>> area here) you seem to be suggesting that the best solution to all the
>> world's problems is to be unremittingly selfish, methinks you have been
>> reading a bit too much Ann Rand.
>>     
>
> That's "Ayn Rand",
>   
Hah I knew it! Obviously suffering the tedium of Atlas Shrugged and it's
insufferable 50 page monologues has addled my brain and diminished my
ability to spell. I can't take anyone who takes that book or that woman
seriously seriously.

>> The solutions to big problems are never as simple and perfect as you
>> make out otherwise we'd be doing them already.
>>     
>
> Actually, that's unlikely.  You have to consider the various "vested
> interests" that are truly responsible for most of the decisions taken by
> government.
>
>   
So they're NOT that simple are they?!




>>  Do you think that the millions of minds who've asked these questions 
>> over the years have just been too stupid to realise the key to fairness 
>> and progress for a country is to abandon all social protection? 
>>     
>
> No.  Those questions haven't been properly asked in the UK in the last
> 60 years, and those in power wouldn't like the answers if they were
> truly examined.
>
>   

Really, you think none of the 100 million people who've lived in the UK
in the last 60 years have considered these issues 'properly'? This is
excepting yourself I assume? Have you considered the alternative: that
your perspective is so far removed from what people think of as fair,
just and humane that no serious people are willing to entertain your
crotchety misanthropic notions?


>> Every man for himself?
>>     
>
> The reality of life is that it's actually that way, if you could but
> recognise it.  The "social protection" is is of almost no practical use
> whatsoever, and is just a drain on our resources.
>
>   

That's utter bollocks. Plenty of people claim the dole for the brief
periods where they are out of work and then go on to return to work,
become productive members of society once again, pay their taxes and
grow the economy. I have, plenty of people I know have. Where would be
the sense of removing this and letting these otherwise productive
members of society become destitute for want of some temporary support
between jobs? Would the country be in a better state had I not been able
to claim the 12 weeks dole I did a few years back and went on to lose my
home and become a squatter / vagrant. Or was it money well spent seeing
as it enabled me to get back on my feet, start my own business and
started contributing services and taxes to the economy again?

Really, as well as providing some measure of insurance for your average
Joe's if you want to create a climate where people are willing to take
the risks associated with entrepreneurship you can't expect them to do
it without a safety net. In your world how many people do you think
would risk starting a business at all?


>>  I don't think you should be allowed to vote, but I feel sorry for you.
>>     
>
> Your socialistic generosity of spirit is truly touching:  because you
> don't agree with me, you can't vote!  How very communist of you! 
>
>   
Yeah well I felt the crap written above entitled me to a little
facetiousness.  And don't call me a communist, or a socialist, I'm not
one. Just because your position if off the right side of the meter
doesn't make me a radical lefty!


>> Sincere apologies to the rest of the list for veering so OT!
>>     
>
> Your vicious bile would be better expended addressing the REAL problems
> in this world!
>
>   
I think you, and people like you ARE the real problem we face right now.
Times like these scare people and the kind of rubbish you're spouting
just empowers populist conservatives and fascists politicians and the
idiots who will vote for them. THAT is dangerous to MY liberty, and the
liberty of anyone who doesn't fit their picture of the future.


Roger.
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