[Gllug] Long term Opensuse (forked: reputation in l-t)

[Stephen Nelson-Smith]

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:36 PM, David L Neil
<DomainAdmin at getaroundtoit.co.uk> wrote:
> Juergen Schinker wrote:
>> John Hearns wrote:
>>> Now that at last we have started to discuss Linux (*)
>>> worth pointing out the discussions on Long Term Support for OpenSUSE -
>>> there isn;t an equivalent to CentOS in SuSe.
>>> (*) then again, I am waging a one-man war against the forces of
>>> darkness which are Debian and her devil-spawn outrider Ubuntu. Soon
>>> you will look back upon flame wars on libertarianism as mere sparks.
>>
>> Nice try to start a flamewar try harder
>
> +1
>
> So to add to the collection of list-foibles, why don't I attempt a
> thread fork/hi-jack?
>
>> regarding Suse; they died on that day when Novell bought them
>> i remember it like it was yesterday and it just doesn't make sense
>
> They didn't die - at least not commercially. Novell's financial results
> show that their Microsoft alliance has generated more for them then any
> other division of their business.
>
>
>> J
>
> ...and so back to the list's predilection for idealism:
>
> I'm a comparative newcomer to Linux, having spent five or six years
> introducing myself to FOSS servers and thereafter OpenOffice etc desktop
> applications before daring myself into a 'pure' Linux environment. Thus
> I started with SuSE/OpenSuSE only about five years back, simply because
> they were at the Trade Shows giving away CD-ROMs and an (unused) offer
> of initial-period techSpt (free to someone they saw as 'influential')
> along with a set of reassuring manuals. (yes, some of us do read, even
> read first!!!???)
>
> It was about a year after the Novell-Microsoft announcement, when I next
> needed to build an in-house server, that I bit the bullet of comparing
> Linux Distros, and fell on my feet - I consider (he says, modestly) by
> choosing CentOS.
>
> More recently I tried rebuilding my desktop with Debian, then Ubuntu,
> then Mint, and other relatives (?spawn) but despite the best efforts of
> good people on this list, failed to configure the (old) video
> successfully and alighted on Fedora instead. Thus frustration eventually
> meant logic and enquiry lost to familiarity and time-desperation!?
>
> Agreed, the Nov-M$ idealistic stance was something of a spur, but in my
> 'looking around' I found misgivings about the 'politics' of virtually
> every distro - in some ways all that is needed is one person with a
> high-enough horse (or soap-box)... and in recent months there have even
> been questions and threats about the CentOS 'ownership', passwords,
> etc... (just to show that I'm not a distro-bigot even if we are
> discussing 'religion')
>
> So to fan some flames:
> wasn't there an idealistic/flame-war about a major change in
> policy-direction at Red Hat a number of years ago, which led to todays
> situation of a paid and supported RHEL (distro, desktop, and configured
> servers...), CentOS (community or commercial), and Fedora (desktop and
> server)? How concerned are we/should we be today, about such a
> reputation as RedHat may have gained 'then'? Has the Linux/FOSS
> community grown, evolved, and enjoyed benefit as a result?
>
> Regards,
> =dn
> (partly tongue-in-cheek, partly an enquiring mind)
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