[Gllug] VACANCY: Junior Systems Support

[Hari Sekhon]

David Damerell wrote:
>> There's also this trap in the upper tax band, it's so hard to earn 
>> anything more because half of what you earn goes in tax anyway... so any 
>> improvement is so marginal as to not justify the effort,
>>     
>
> Tripe. Pay _rises_ are a lot bigger in the upper tax bands; someone
> getting that 5K raise you think is all is worth bothering with may get
> only 2.5K of it, but no-one at the minimum-wage end of the scale is
> getting 2.5K raises to begin with
On the contrary, a professional earning £20K could easily get a few £K 
pay rise if said individual works hard, gets a promotion or changes job 
etc. I know, I did it. This provides incentive to work hard and work 
better which is good.

The point is that the incentive is reduced once you reach a certain 
level because with 40% PAYE Tax + 18.5% National Insurance (Tax) it 
becomes a steeper uphill struggle to increase your take home pay. Hence 
why a flat percentage would still result in paying more tax the more you 
earn, but at least people wouldn't virtually plateau.

You would think that psychology and incentive would have been lessons 
well learned from the abysmal failures of communism and yet here we are 
still discussing the broken obviously degenerate socialist philosophies 
of justifying an uneven playing field and removing incentive from good 
people to push themselves to do better.

It's a waste of time discussing minimum wage jobs because those jobs 
often aren't going to be done much better either way, they're plod jobs 
which is why they are minimum wage since they just need to be filled by 
any half able human, so cheapness is deemed the most important factor 
and since you get what you pay for, and you only need to get very little 
it balances out. Ultimately those are the best jobs to automated where 
possible, and things like Tesco's self service tills are a step in the 
right direction (yes I know they're not the first to do it, just the 
first I used). I was unsure at first about them, but after initial 
hesitation, I now love those things (except when they crash but hey all 
new things have their problems). Definitely a step in the right 
direction to reduce dependence on immigrant labour.

The problem with the upper band is it hasn't been readjusted in years 
despite the house prices having gone through the roof and higher 
salaries being required to keep up and make things economically viable 
again.

If you think you're going to make your life now, get a house, a family 
and a dog etc outside the upper tax band, good luck with that...

-h

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