[Gllug] Alternatives to googlemail

salsaman at xs4all.nl salsaman at xs4all.nl
Mon May 30 16:22:28 UTC 2011


On Mon, May 30, 2011 02:00, Steve Parker wrote:
> On 29/05/11 11:06, Daniel Mang wrote:
>> I am looking into the possibility of finally transferring my email
>> away from google (for some reasons see
>> http://www.google-watch.org/gmail.html).
> IANAL, and I certainly don't know US law, but the Regulation of
> Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) here in the UK gives the UK government
> authority to read your email, and to force you to decrypt your encrypted
> email for them on demand, so a valid question to start with, is what are
> you trying to achieve? Email is inherently insecure.
>
> Further; how do you define "your email"? This message will probably land
> in your inbox, but it is not an email from me to you, but from me to a
> mailing list. If I email you directly, is that "your email" or "my
> email"? Do I have the right to publish all emails sent between you and
> I, or do you have the right to insist that they be kept private?
>
> These are not technological questions, these are legal and societal
> questions. The enforcement may be technical, but it is for society to
> work out what this all means. Websites like Facebook will bring such
> discussions forwards, but now that email has existed in some form for
> around 3 decades, even the western world alone has no solid legal
> definitions of how this can and cannot be used and authenticated.
>
> This is indirectly related to Moore's Law, but technology is advancing
> much faster than society can keep up with it. Society is changing faster
> than the law can keep up with that. In the meantime, it probably makes
> sense to encrypt anything that may be considered sensitive, but that's
> when we get onto the dodgy ground of "if you hide it, it means you have
> something to hide" which is not necessarily true.
>
> Steve
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It's very simple - if you have something which is secure, don't send it
via email ! That's been the rule as long as I can remember.

Even if you have the most secure mail host in the world, your email
messages still have to travel over the public internet, where they can
easily be intercepted.

Salsaman.


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