From iain at shihad.org Thu Sep 2 11:34:16 2021 From: iain at shihad.org (Iain M Conochie) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:34:16 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] IPv6 addresses In-Reply-To: <83e36294-bd12-14b9-2ba3-fb4b86e3f898@sinodun.org.uk> References: <1904080.dPpKbvHL2I@gigl> <83e36294-bd12-14b9-2ba3-fb4b86e3f898@sinodun.org.uk> Message-ID: <1630582402.25145.1.camel@shihad.org> > Back in the days of dial-up, providing a fixed IP address was quite > a  > hard problem to solve, given that each time you dialled in you > almost  > certainly came in on a different modem/port.  Most ISPs simply > assigned  > an IP address to each port and thus that's what you got.  Demon went > to  > a lot of trouble to switch the routing around for each customer and > thus  > give you a static address. > I had a colleague in the early 00's who worked at Demon in the late 90's, who said they called it BURP - Bloody Useless Routing Protocol! Cheers Iain From chrisbell at chrisbell.org.uk Thu Sep 30 15:58:54 2021 From: chrisbell at chrisbell.org.uk (Chris Bell) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:58:54 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call Message-ID: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> Hello, I have received a scam telephone call to my landline and caller display shows the caller as 0031625679475, a 13 digit number. Is this likely to be a genuine number from something like an IP digital phone? My sister has received several similar calls with long numbers starting with 003 -- Chris Bell Website chrisbell.org.uk From cehunter at gb-x.org Thu Sep 30 16:07:12 2021 From: cehunter at gb-x.org (Christopher Hunter) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:07:12 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> Message-ID: <49fc4a14-f2e3-a55f-12fa-40e29357134b@gb-x.org> On 30/09/2021 16:58, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > Hello, > I have received a scam telephone call to my landline and caller display shows > the caller as 0031625679475, a 13 digit number. Is this likely to be a genuine > number from something like an IP digital phone? My sister has received several > similar calls with long numbers starting with 003 00316 is a Dutch mobile number.  It's unlikely to be genuine. Regards Chris From aidangcole at btinternet.com Thu Sep 30 16:07:39 2021 From: aidangcole at btinternet.com (aidangcole at btinternet.com) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:07:39 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> Message-ID: <7a638fa5-1541-db03-98dd-54115e752c3c@btinternet.com> 0031 or +31 would indicate that the call originates (or purports to originate) in The Netherlands On 30/09/2021 16:58, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > Hello, > I have received a scam telephone call to my landline and caller display shows > the caller as 0031625679475, a 13 digit number. Is this likely to be a genuine > number from something like an IP digital phone? My sister has received several > similar calls with long numbers starting with 003 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jan at van-Bergen.com Thu Sep 30 16:09:18 2021 From: Jan at van-Bergen.com (Jan van Bergen) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:09:18 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> Message-ID: <6464ddc5-3a4b-9748-7f2d-4ff4b6cc7231@van-Bergen.com> Hi Chris 0031 is a call from the Netherlands. In this case as the first number of the user is a 6 it would be a Dutch mobile calling you. It would not be an IP as the dutch use a special range for it. Any number starting with 003 or 004 is coming from a European caller. (see full list e.g. here https://warwick.ac.uk/services/academicoffice/ourservices/saro/recruitment/callingcampaign/callingcodes/) Jan On 30/09/2021 16:58, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > Hello, > I have received a scam telephone call to my landline and caller display shows > the caller as 0031625679475, a 13 digit number. Is this likely to be a genuine > number from something like an IP digital phone? My sister has received several > similar calls with long numbers starting with 003 > From john at sinodun.org.uk Thu Sep 30 16:13:07 2021 From: john at sinodun.org.uk (John Winters) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:13:07 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> Message-ID: On 30/09/2021 16:58, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > Hello, > I have received a scam telephone call to my landline and caller display shows > the caller as 0031625679475, a 13 digit number. Is this likely to be a genuine > number from something like an IP digital phone? My sister has received several > similar calls with long numbers starting with 003 Unless I was expecting an international call, I would be very wary about answering it at all. The pond-life have worked out that people won't answer calls which say "Withheld" so with the connivance of crooked telecoms providers they now put any old made-up number in the presentation number field. Generally, if I don't actively recognize the calling number I let the answering machine take it. Anyone genuine will leave a message. John -- Xronos Scheduler - https://xronos.uk/ All your school's schedule information in one place. Timetable, activities, homework, public events - the lot Live demo at https://schedulerdemo.xronos.uk/ From mvanbeek at supporting-role.co.uk Thu Sep 30 16:14:17 2021 From: mvanbeek at supporting-role.co.uk (Marco van Beek) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:14:17 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: <6464ddc5-3a4b-9748-7f2d-4ff4b6cc7231@van-Bergen.com> References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> <6464ddc5-3a4b-9748-7f2d-4ff4b6cc7231@van-Bergen.com> Message-ID: Except of course we in the UK have a really rubbish level of security on setting CallerID and is almost entirely down to trust and the person in charge of the phone system. Apparetnylthis will all change after 5G is rolled out but I have no idea why this is the case. So there is a fair chance some poor Dutch person is getting a lot of complaints on his mobile and has no idea what they are talking about. Cheers, Marco van Beek On 30/09/2021 17:08, Jan van Bergen via GLLUG wrote: > Hi Chris > > 0031 is a call from the Netherlands. In this case as the first number > of the user is a 6 it would be a Dutch mobile calling you. It would > not be an IP as the dutch use a special range for it. > Any number starting with 003 or 004 is coming from a European caller. > (see full list e.g. here > https://warwick.ac.uk/services/academicoffice/ourservices/saro/recruitment/callingcampaign/callingcodes/) > > Jan > > On 30/09/2021 16:58, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: >> Hello, >> I have received a scam telephone call to my landline and caller >> display shows >> the caller as 0031625679475, a 13 digit number. Is this likely to be >> a genuine >> number from something like an IP digital phone? My sister has >> received several >> similar calls with long numbers starting with 003 >> > From chrisbell at chrisbell.org.uk Thu Sep 30 16:27:10 2021 From: chrisbell at chrisbell.org.uk (Chris Bell) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:27:10 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> Message-ID: <2067453.DdFR1rzRog@gigl> So a 13 digit number is possible? -- Chris Bell Website chrisbell.org.uk From mvanbeek at supporting-role.co.uk Thu Sep 30 16:32:07 2021 From: mvanbeek at supporting-role.co.uk (Marco van Beek) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:32:07 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] scam phone call In-Reply-To: <2067453.DdFR1rzRog@gigl> References: <2110073.9SdNMHQWIO@gigl> <2067453.DdFR1rzRog@gigl> Message-ID: <47497709-a432-e938-5042-081b07bcc15f@supporting-role.co.uk> any number of digits are possible, but apparently there is a standard that says the minimum is 7 and the maximum "should not exceed" 15, and the nation part should not exceed 12. Then apparently you can add additional codes for the system at the far end, which all adds up to a potential maximum of 24. Boy, am I looking for any excuse not to finish looking at CV's for new staff... :-) On 30/09/2021 17:27, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > So a 13 digit number is possible? >