NIldram ADSL is working fine for me with Suse 8 the Suse wizard did it all - offered pppoatm etc Mandrake 9 sadly doesn't seem to know that pppoatm exists (what do they use for ADSL in=20 France? or is it USA?) - I downloaded some rpms linux-atm and libraries - they installed OK but the Mandrake ADSL wizard still doesn't offer pppoatm Looks like I'm staying with SuSe john