[Gloucs] apache virtual hosts

[Richard Mellersh]

Thanks for the reply Guy.

I think perhaps I should explain something else to you.

1. I'm a cabinet maker, you know? wood and glue and stuff.

2. My skin is getting very wrinkly.

3. I don't learn stuff quickly these days.

4. I don't understand some of the terminology but I can guess most of it 
(usually).

5. This webpage/networking/server/directory/antiBillGates/proGPLhttpIPnumber 
stuff is a weekend/evening hobby.

6. The only books "work" will buy for me is a chisel supplier catalogue for me 
to buy my own from.

Down below to save words I'll put a string of ??????????? where your words are 
Martian to me OK?

On Saturday 18 Sep 2004 21:03, Guy Edwards wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 17:30, Richard Mellersh wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, it's not yet sorted, in fact it's worse.
>
> I'm not entirely sure what you're up to but the following might help a
> bit, I've got Debian here so I don't have a vhosts.conf...
>
> > I suppose it is "mucking around" but I REALLY want it to work from
> > outside but without DNS yet (I don't know how or how much it is to do
> > DNS).  What I thought would work is if I give friends/ colleagues etc an
> > address such as http://195.112.17.79/site1 or http://195.112.17.79/site2
> > I could somehow use apache to redirect these requests to various
> > directories.
>
> [disclaimer: Guy is not an Apache admin (yet)]
>
> Out of the following I think the first idea is the one you're after,
> treat the rest as just helpful info.
>
> Note: you still need to modify the DNS with this so that peoples
> machines actually know that 
??????????????fredbloggs.myserversomewhere.co.uk?????????????
> translates to a certain IP, otherwise they won't be able to find you.
??? what about if I just GIVE 195.112.17.79 to my friends ???
>
> You can redirect queries using Apache and redirect to another
> destination/server/folder... easier if I show you ... yours might look
> something like:
>
> [...]
> NameVirtualHost your.ip.address.here
??? do you mean 195.112.17.79 ???
>  <VirtualHost your.ip.address.here>
??? ditto ???
>  Servername myserversomewhere.co.uk
????? now you got me where does this come from ?????
>  </VirtualHost>
>
>  <VirtualHost your.ip.address.here>
>  Servername fredbloggs.myserversomewhere.co.uk
>  ServerAlias *
>  Redirect permanent / http://mybigserversomewhere.co.uk/fredbloggssite/
>  </VirtualHost>
> [...]
>
> so requests to fredbloggs.myserversomewhere.co.uk would redirect to
> http://myserversomewhere.co.uk/fredbloggssite/
>
>
> Other not as good ideas that might help you one day:
>
> You can have different sites running of different ports (80,81,82,83
> etc) if a client connects to port 80, send them to one folder, if they
> connect to 81 another....
> url would appear like http://server.somewhere.some.dom:82/
> have a look at some of the other cool ways (quick google) you can
> redirect here:
> http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/apache/apache-redirect.html
> like sending people to different machines based on what folder they
> access etc.
>
?????? THERE IS NO DNS I WANT TO ONLY GIVE 195.112.17.79/aname ?????????
> No DNS changing access? Well you could use symlinks which I've guess
??????????????????????? HUH ???????????????????????????????????
> you've tried but I think isn't exactly what you're asking for. If you
> really trust people not to be bad you can turn on symlinks per directory
> in Apache if you wish with (showing a big section so you get an idea of
> usage):
> [...]
> <VirtualHost localhost>
>         ServerName localhost
>         ServerAdmin webmaster at localhost
>         DocumentRoot /var/www/friends
>         <Directory /var/www/friends>
>                 Options FollowSymLinks
>                 AllowOverride None
>         </Directory>
>
> Although it's safer to do the following:
> 	Options SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
????????????????????????????????? HUH ???????????????????????
>
> and then of course just make a link in the normal way
> mymachine:/var/www/friends# ln -s /home/bob/www bobsdir
???????????????????? "Normal"? HUH ???????????????????????
>
> If you can persuade work to buy you a book, check out "Apache the
> Definitive Guide", O'Reilly, Chapter3 or so relates to all this.
I have actually got an old one of these and it make about as much sense to me 
as a Apolo 13 flight manual!
>
> There's a fair number webhosting people on the list who will hopefully
> point out if I've completely got the wrong solutions here or made some
> error.
>
> Guy
>
>
Thanks for you patience Guy.
Cheers
Richard
>
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