[Gloucs] Re: gloucs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2
Tom Faraday
tom at Faraday.eclipse.co.uk
Tue Feb 15 14:54:31 GMT 2005
Thanks guy,
After talking to Tim and yourself I think that I would
be best to have a go at trying it out myself with some
borrowed kit. Their are loads of websites with advice
on this hardware so I guess ill have to put some time
into yet more research :-)
Being a dodgy teenager myself I know what u mean about
all the security issues, hopefully the WEP protocol
with function on all the systems we have (suse/XP/98)
but I dont think to many of the residents of Painswick
are able to set up a wireless network and if they do
use me for some mad porno session Ill be quite
proud....lol.
Thanks for the advice and does anyone know anything
about the graphics card thing.
tom
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> 1. Re: gloucs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1 - suse
> and wireless
> (Tom Faraday)
> 2. Re: Re: gloucs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1 -
> suse and wireless
> (Guy Edwards)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:09:48 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Tom Faraday <tom at Faraday.eclipse.co.uk>
> Subject: [Gloucs] Re: gloucs Digest, Vol 67,
> Issue 1 - suse and
> wireless
> To: gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> Hi,
>
> Thanks for that Guy your right,
>
> Im talking about one Victorian cotswold stone
> house
> which is about 30ft tall, their aren't any stone
> walls
> to go through just thick ceilings and the large
> height
> to deal with (i want to go from top to bottom
> idealy
> but could stick the box on the middle floor (of
> three))
> I have looked into this and have seen all the
> popular
> offerings from Netgear/3Com/Belkin etc.
> Currently there
> is a product available from an american
> company,
>
> Westell Versalink 54g which is on
> www.broadbandstore.co.uk
>
> Apart from this i know of the new Belkin super
> long
> range set up but that is also super expensive.
> Compatibility wise im none the wiser apart from
> the
> fact that on the suse blurb it says something
> about
> improved wireless support.
>
> Maximum budget would be 200ish for a router, 2
> PCI/USB
> and a PCMICA for the laptop.
>
> Im interested to see if anyone has any
> experience in
> this field and can tell me what the best long
> range,
> linux compatible, stable, good quality and valu
> for
> money set up would be?
>
> Ow and after looking around I found this with
> relation
> to the graphics card
>
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/286990
>
> I attempted to follow the instructions on the
> suse ftp
> link, to compile the new graphics card kernel
> module
> (perhaps a bit ambitious for a 1 day old newbie)
> and
> everything was good until I had to go into init3
> and
> update sax (point 4 or 5 on the README i think).
> I then
> got and error telling me that the profile file
> in the
> new driver folder was corrupt and their was an
> error at
> line 970 (or some line like that, im at a
> different pc
> now, if it is important ill dig it out of the
> logs)?
>
> The only thing I missed on the instruction was
> to
> update the kernel source package through the
> online
> update as this was a 70mb file and would take
> ages over
> a 26kbps connection.
>
> Can i just try the whole thing over? As i have
> already
> ran the two rpm's it tells me to download.
>
> If any of you wonderful people can help with any
> of
> these points I will be very grateful.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:59:12 +0000
> From: Guy Edwards <guy_j_edwards at hotpop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Re: gloucs Digest, Vol 67,
> Issue 1 - suse and
> wireless
> To: Gloucestershire LUG
> <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Message-ID:
> <1108418353.5292.29.camel at portable>
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> disclaimer: I've setup a total of 2 wireless
> networks and so am mainly
> just guessing here. There are some wireless
> gurus here, so I'm sure
> they'll help as your problem gets tougher.
>
> On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 19:09 +0000, Tom Faraday
> wrote:
> [snip]
> > Im talking about one Victorian cotswold stone
> house
> > which is about 30ft tall, their aren't any
> stone walls
> > to go through just thick ceilings and the
> large height
> > to deal with (i want to go from top to bottom
> idealy
> > but could stick the box on the middle floor
> (of three))
>
> You'd think the middle would be best but I'd
> borrow a wireless access
> point from someone and experiment for a weekend
> as you'll find the
> coverage gets affected by weird things.
>
> My fear would be that my wireless access point
> wouldn't reach between
> the rooms I'd want the most but will somehow
> reach that dodgy teenager
> down the street you've never noticed before but
> who loves your broadband
> connection and really likes to download large
> volumes of images of
> certain things. Painswick's not exactly densely
> populated mind, and I'd
> suggest your exterior walls are going to block a
> lot, so you can
> probably safely ignore my paranoia in you case
> but it wont hurt to
> practise the sensible things like restricting
> connections (IP and Mac
> address) and encrypting your traffic, not
> broadcasting your SSID, it's
> not too hard and quite fun to learn. There's
> some other things you can
> do if you're really paranoid.
>
> Something else: I know some people aren't
> bothered but I'd also suggest
> it's not good to have a wireless point within
> 10ft of somewhere you
> spend a lot of time (like not under your sofa or
> bed). certainly all the
> Cisco stuff I've seen comes with health warnings
> and gives 10ft as the
> recommended distance.
>
> > I have looked into this and have seen all the
> popular
> > offerings from Netgear/3Com/Belkin etc.
> Currently there
> > is a product available from an american
> company,
>
> again, if you can, try and find someone friendly
> who will lend you a
> access point for a day or two. If you know that
> make/model works fine,
> you can buy your own.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Maximum budget would be 200ish for a router, 2
> PCI/USB
> > and a PCMICA for the laptop.
>
> I'd read around a bit on some of the wireless
> geek websites where they
> compare ranges of different cards. I can't
> remember which is best but I
> do remember there's significant range
> differences (like over twice as
> far for certain cards).
>
> have a google about, here's a starter for a
> wireless access point review
>
http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/coolgear/wireless/0,3902
3505,20281086,00.htm
>
> hope it helps.
>
> just thought I'd mention:
> > Virtual IRC meets every Sunday 8-10pm in #glug
> on irc.slashnet.org
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> for a while, people are
> just off doing things.
>
> Guy
>
> --
> Guy Edwards <guy_j_edwards at hotpop.com>
>
>
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