[Gloucs] gloucs Digest, Vol 340, Issue 6

Sean msfin303 at yahoo.co.uk
Sat May 21 16:10:19 UTC 2011 

Hi Tony ....


Cheers for the info.. and your right, Trinity and xfce are probably the best option. 

I think I must just be turning into an old fart... Resisting change as much as possible, even though its inevitable :-)   

Sean



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: gloucs Digest, Vol 339, Issue 4 (Anthony Edward Cooper)
   2. Re: June 2011 Meeting? (Anthony Edward Cooper)
   3. Re: June 2011 Meeting? (Matthew Phillips)
   4. Re: June or July talk (Anthony Edward Cooper)
   5. June Talks (Anthony Edward Cooper)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:40:18 +0100
From: Anthony Edward Cooper <aecooper at coosoft.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Gloucs] gloucs Digest, Vol 339, Issue 4
To: Sean <msfin303 at yahoo.co.uk>,     Gloucestershire LUG
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You could try Trinity when Gnome 2 `runs out' or maybe xfce. With the 
gtk-kde theme engine you should be able to get KDE 3 looking a bit like 
Gnome 2. But hopefully Gnome 3 might cause a fork and mean that Gnome 2 
goes on.....

Organisations seem to think that everyone wants shiny monitors and iPad 
like interfaces that are so dumbed down as to be useless to a 
professional computer user....:-(

Tony.

Sean wrote:
> I have to be honest I like the Gnome 2, its simplicity, never really warmed to KDE  
>
> + the Wife seems to find the Gnome easier than the KDE... 
> The good thing about Linux is we all have choices....
>
> What Concerns me is that Gnome 3 is it's quite radically different.. For me that's not a problem, but for the wife , she has taken one look at it and gone completely "Blank", my concern is it will end up forcing her back to windows, which I don't want to do...
>
> Is it possible to install the Gnome 3 but change the look and feel back to the Gnome 2 style???
>
> Sean
>
>
>
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> To: Sean <msfin303 at yahoo.co.uk>; Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011, 8:21
> Subject: Re: [Gloucs] gloucs Digest, Vol 339, Issue 4
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> Oh don't depress me! - Well I guess that will be the death of Gnome on 
> anything other than a mobile device then. Why oh why when they just get 
> Gnome2 usable and stable do they have to go and wreck it all again.
>
> Interestingly for those of you that want a functional and useful desktop 
> without too much bloat, what with the backlash against Gnome 3, Unity 
> and KDE4 (which is miles better than Gnome3/Unity but not configurable 
> enough and resource hungry), there is  the Trinity desktop (basically 
> KDE 3.5 but `ported' to newer Linux distros).
>
> Long live Trinity :-).
>
> Tony.
> Sean wrote:
>  
>> What about the new Gnome 3 desktop that is about to come out???
>>
>>
>>    
>  Sean
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>>     1. Talk for this month (Glyn Davies)
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>> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:54:45 +0100
>> From: Glyn Davies <glynd at walmore.com>
>> Subject: [Gloucs] Talk for this month
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>> Any offers for a talk for this month? The next meeting is supposed to
>> be Tuesday.
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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:10:36 +0100
From: Anthony Edward Cooper <aecooper at coosoft.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Gloucs] June 2011 Meeting?
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I stand corrected :-)

Great ok I'll sketch out a rough guide and then I can just tackle each 
topic in turn and see how we go. I'll post details nearer the time......

Cheers,

Tony.

Matthew Phillips wrote:
> So the statistics show that 100% of responses have said they want
> another perl talk!
>
> I should be in sales :-)
>
> Matthew Phillips
> phillips321 at gmail.com
> 07818233332 (+44)
>
> On 19 May 2011, at 09:31, Russell Hay <russellh at ysmail.net> wrote:
>
>  
>> I'd certainly be interested in a Perl talk, too!
>> Russ
>>
>>
>> On 19 May 2011 08:51, Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>> I'm more than happy to sit through any perl talks you wish to offer,
>>> I'm sure others would be interested as well.
>>>
>>> Matthew Phillips
>>> phillips321 at gmail.com
>>> 07818233332 (+44)
>>>
>>> On 19 May 2011, at 08:32, Anthony Edward Cooper
>>> <aecooper at coosoft.plus.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>>  Well I can do a series of small lightweight talks on Perl following the
>>>>        
>>> brain dump one I did earlier. Take more time/slower pace/more detail over
>>> certain general topics. It would cover the same ground as the last one but
>>> in more detail and in more digestible chunks (4-5 0.5/one hour talks may
>>> be). But when I suggested this after my last talk there was no interest so I
>>> haven't mentioned it since. Also I am aware that this is not a Glos Perl
>>> Mongers meeting either.
>>>      
>>>>  But an informed talk on the viability of Linux as a desktop OS in light
>>>>        
>>> of the two main desktops seemingly wanting to commit suicide and do
>>> everything to alienate their fan base may be a good idea.
>>>      
>>>> Tony.
>>>> Glyn Davies wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>> Garrett,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies I didn't post to the list on the weekend to say there
>>>>> wouldn't be a meeting tonight. No one came forward with a talk.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, can anyone offer up a talk for June?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 May 2011 16:49, Garrett Phipps <phippsg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>> So is there going to be a meeting this evening? And if so,
>>>>>> where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 02:17:01 +0100
From: Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gloucs] June 2011 Meeting?
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Fantastic, am looking forward to this already.

Matthew Phillips
phillips321 at gmail.com
07818233332 (+44)

On 20 May 2011, at 23:11, Anthony Edward Cooper
<aecooper at coosoft.plus.com> wrote:

> I stand corrected :-)
>
> Great ok I'll sketch out a rough guide and then I can just tackle each topic in turn and see how we go. I'll post details nearer the time......
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony.
>
> Matthew Phillips wrote:
>> So the statistics show that 100% of responses have said they want
>> another perl talk!
>>
>> I should be in sales :-)
>>
>> Matthew Phillips
>> phillips321 at gmail.com
>> 07818233332 (+44)
>>
>> On 19 May 2011, at 09:31, Russell Hay <russellh at ysmail.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd certainly be interested in a Perl talk, too!
>>> Russ
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 May 2011 08:51, Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm more than happy to sit through any perl talks you wish to offer,
>>>> I'm sure others would be interested as well.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Phillips
>>>> phillips321 at gmail.com
>>>> 07818233332 (+44)
>>>>
>>>> On 19 May 2011, at 08:32, Anthony Edward Cooper
>>>> <aecooper at coosoft.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well I can do a series of small lightweight talks on Perl following the
>>>>>
>>>> brain dump one I did earlier. Take more time/slower pace/more detail over
>>>> certain general topics. It would cover the same ground as the last one but
>>>> in more detail and in more digestible chunks (4-5 0.5/one hour talks may
>>>> be). But when I suggested this after my last talk there was no interest so I
>>>> haven't mentioned it since. Also I am aware that this is not a Glos Perl
>>>> Mongers meeting either.
>>>>
>>>>> But an informed talk on the viability of Linux as a desktop OS in light
>>>>>
>>>> of the two main desktops seemingly wanting to commit suicide and do
>>>> everything to alienate their fan base may be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>>> Tony.
>>>>> Glyn Davies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Garrett,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies I didn't post to the list on the weekend to say there
>>>>>> wouldn't be a meeting tonight. No one came forward with a talk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, can anyone offer up a talk for June?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 May 2011 16:49, Garrett Phipps <phippsg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So is there going to be a meeting this evening? And if so,
>>>>>>> where?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:08:55 +0100
From: Anthony Edward Cooper <aecooper at coosoft.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Gloucs] June or July talk
To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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Yup that would be cool. Now I am using Debian in earnest I would like to 
learn more about the command line package management tools (especially 
Aptitude).

Tony.

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:44:07AM +0100, Andrew Ford wrote:
>  
>> I am currently writing another book for O'Reilly (Linux Software
>> Management with RPM and YUM).   I could probably run through the
>> material as a talk.  It might be useful for the group, but also for
>> me to get some feedback.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> -- 
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> I'd be quite happy to do a similar extempore talk on apt-get, aptitude, (synaptic / update manager) and the way that
> Debian does packages and distribution ...
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:16:39 +0100
From: Anthony Edward Cooper <aecooper at coosoft.plus.com>
Subject: [Gloucs] June Talks
To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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    So I guess, pending natural disasters, hardware failures etc, the 
June talks will be roughly 2 1 hr talks (or less) from myself (starting 
my short `series' of talks on Perl)  and Andy Cater talking about his 
namesake Debian package management/apt/aptitude/dpkg(/synaptic?) etc... 
(for those that don't know Andy was responsible for giving Apt its name:-)).

    Will we be ok for the 21st June WRT MessageLabs conference room?

    Cheers,

    Tony.



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