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[Andrew Miller (Spode)]

" * The portable hdd based mp3 player "

I didn't think they were the first to market an HDD based player?

Spode

George Prowse wrote:
> Karl Lattimer wrote:
>>>> LOL, don't be stupid, the iphone is the best bloody product out there,
>>>> it has a software stack that kicks the arse of android (core image, 
>>>> core
>>>> audio, core animation, quartz extreme, quartz compositor, among many
>>>> other apple APIs). The user interface has been 2 1/2 years in
>>>> development and shows how much attention to detail apple have paid, 
>>>> soon
>>>> it'll get 3G, GPS and MMS support and then it'll be mainstream in
>>>> europe.
>>>> iPhone is good, there is no denying it, I haven't seen any valid
>>>> criticism which isn't already on a time table for redress. The open
>>>> source world can't produce something like this, especially not in the
>>>> time frame allowed. I mean FCS we're still trying to get a single
>>>> direction and combined effort behind open compositing and yet there 
>>>> are
>>>> no HIG guidelines for compositing yet, this is now 2 years old! Apple
>>>> did this 8 years ago!
>>> Pity the phone itself is shit and it comes with a crap camera... But 
>>> who wants that, eh?
>>
>> So it has a 2mpix camera? So what, its not _THAT_ bad, in fact for a
>> 2mpix it does better than my old motorola, which really did have a shit
>> camera which was supposed to be the same quality. The parts are better
>> quality than motorola.
>
> For a company on prides itself on trying to do things one better they 
> sure fouled up on that one...
>>
>> So what exactly about the phone is shit, after using one the audio
>> clarity beats any phone I've used incoming and outgoing, and because it
>> has a full unix operating system it can easily multitask emailing and
>> phoning at the same time, unlike S60 or any other phone OS for that
>> matter.
>
> For a start no 3G, the camera the fact that it uses EDGE, in fact the 
> only good thing about it is the OS
>>
>>>  From what I can tell it does the typical Apple bit and that is 
>>> "doesn't work as good as it looks".
>>
>>> From my experience all apple products work as good as they look, I have
>> two macs and an ipod (how many apple products do you own?), I'm happy
>> with all of them, well except the HDD in my ipod died after its 500th or
>> so drop.
>
> I have an ipod, powerbook G3 and I just got rid of 3 old-world macs.
>>
>>>> I wouldn't criticise this breakthrough product until you can at least
>>>> write some cool bling in cairo or clutter and realise that the 
>>>> effort is
>>>> far beyond what anyone else can produce right now, even google.
>>>>
>>> I can criticise it all I want, my phone is far better than the 
>>> iPhone, I can even plug it into the computer and my box gets a 512mb 
>>> broadband connection through it.
>>
>> No you can't really criticise something by citing yet another persons
>> work as better... Especially as no UI in the world compares to iPhone.
>>
>> And for the record, the maximum theoretical (that's a key word) limit of
>> HSDPA is 384Mbit/s not mb (milli bytes?) and for those so blissfully
>> unaware a bit is 1/8th of a byte.
>>
>> Moreover, most people can only get around 280Mbit/s out of HSDPA and the
>> coverage in maidstone from either o2 or orange is non
>> existent...pointless
>>
>> George, I think its time for you to stop having a go at a product
>> because you can't afford it and judge it on its merit, a breakthrough UI
>> on a breakthrough device. I won't buy one until it gets to a certain
>> level of feature completeness but I still recognise the merits of it.
>>
>> Oh for the record, apple inventions that are not all show and no action;
>>  * The personal computer
>>  * The mouse
>>  * The portable hdd based mp3 player
>>
>> These weren't just innovations, they were paradigm shifters. iPhone is
>> yet another one.
>>
>> K,
>>
> Heh, if I want one i'll just go and buy one but I couldn't put up with 
> all the shitty features just for it looking nice - only a shallow 
> person would do that :p
>
> G
>
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