[Klug-general] Baffled by Kxbxnxu nxtxoxkxnx Gentoo

Michael E. Rentell michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
Thu Feb 4 12:46:36 UTC 2010

Michael E. Rentell, BA

james morris wrote:
> On 4/2/2010, "George Prowse" <george.prowse at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 04/02/2010 09:28, james morris wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2010, "George Prowse"<george.prowse at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 03/02/2010 14:00, Dan Attwood wrote:
>>>>> don't worry it should be nowhere near as complicated as that. In fact
>>>>> there are very few people that bother fiddling with the kernel now a days
>>>> You'd be surprised at how often helper apps fuck up and then it's me
>>>> laughing at everyone else because i can actually get it running without
>>>> network-manager :D
>>>> Gentoo may have a learning curve but it teaches you all you need to know
>>>> about your system without having to ./configure, make, make install
>>>> everything
>>> I started installing Gentoo early yesterday evening. I cheated on the
>>> kernel and used genkernel to build a hardware-detecting version (with a
>>> slow boot time).
>>> Before bed, my system could not boot anything (wrong root=(hdn,n)) and
>>> the grub screen looked like fuzzy snow (should not have told it to load
>>> a splash image when I'd not configured grub for gfx).
>>> This morning I fixed that and tried to load up the handbook in links2 to
>>> see what's next. No installed browser. Still in console mode only.
>>> emerge links2 and 53 other random packages which have now installed
>>> themselves and I've no clue what - other than things like alsa (useful
>>> I admit) and a sprinkling of X libs. Pity I forgot that links2 has an X
>>> mode. Should have stuck with lynx.
>>> The Gentoo handbook is now hanging half out the window and getting wet in
>>> the rain.
>>> Fun!
>>> james
>> Packages will be installed depending on your USE flags (and obviously
>> the packages they depend on).
>> Until you install a GUI you won't have one. That means installing X.
>> Just a tip, installing something small like openbox and fluxbox is the
>> best way to go, just remember to add whatever wm you choose to .xinitrc
>> so it starts it when you startx.
>> Once you have xorg and your small window manager you can install your
>> KDE or GNOME or whatever, i just find it useful to have a working system
>> while that installs.
>> Here are some essential links for you:
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/fluxbox-config.xml
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openbox.xml
>> All of those are at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml?desc=1
> i'm near giving up, but then decided to just try muddling through
> emerging stuff i want and let it get on with it and hope any
> misconfigurations can be fixed later.
> gentoo is a nightmare to setup, but the way i'm downloading & building
> source in debian testing is a nightmare to maintain.
> james.
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A job for Linux heroes. I am full of admiration at the perspicacity 
shown here. W-a-a-ay beyond bears of little brain like me.
Well done.

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