[Klug-general] Future of KLUG was Re-branding the 'L' in LUG

Tue Oct 11 15:38:40 UTC 2011

Hi
I will not be able to attend North Kent meetings, but this is not much of
a hardship for me as the contents are getting further away from my
interests.
  The recent "discussions" do not bode well for the future I feel.
 I would personally like to thank Colin for all his hard work. Without him
at the helm the ship would sink.
     I will continue to lurk in the hope that something of interest turns
up a bit nearer home.
    Thanks too to all the people that gave me valuable assistance, and
hope they will still do so when my own ship gets wrecked periodically!
    Rich
> Hi all
> The rebranding thread prompts some very important questions about KLUG.
> What
> of it's future?
>
> For the last few years I had plenty of time to devote to KLUG, organising
> meeting locations, prompting people to do talks and attend meetings.
>  With life's changes I now dont have that spare time.  Back in March some
> of
> us spoke about doing something special for KLUGs 10th Anniversay which is
> at
> the end of this month, but I've had no time to organise anything and no
> one
> else has spoken up about doing an event.
>
> KLUG was setup as a roadshow and moved around Kent, meeting in the past in
> Dover, Dartford, Maidstone, Rochester, Gillingham, Ashford and Chatham.
> Now
> we have the options of Dover, Gillingham or Chatham. The Innovation Centre
> Medway in Chatham certainly has the best features and quite selfishly is
> the
> easiest for me to get to. I will never have time to drive down to Dover
> for
> a meeting.  This does not mean we can't have Dover meetings, just someone
> else needs to run them.
>
> As KLUG has evolved so has Linux. Back when I started with Ubuntu 6.06,
> KLUG
> was great to get help getting it all working, but now that Linux is pretty
> polished and works out of the box (or ISO) 97% of the time what part does
> KLUG actually play?
>
> Mostly its a shared interest in technology and anything from Andriod, Open
> Source applications that run on Windows/Mac and doing stuff W?BIC! (Why?
> Because I can!)  Now I would rather attend a Barcamp and listen to a
> varied
> array of talks rather than drive down the A2 to Dover.
>
> Therefore I think, as it's been suggested, we expand our focus and not
> limit
> ourselves to just being a Linux group. Certainly Linux will be our main
> focus, but with the Prototype 'Hack' group at ICM and with Barcamp
> Canterbury I think we can include there interests within our group.
>
> Gone are the days when we had 15-20 people attending KLUG. For the past 6
> months it's been 6 at the most.
>
> So in summary. Here are some questions/suggestions
>
>
>    - Do we continue to have monthly meetings or larger meetings every two
>    months.
>
>    - Anyone want to be responsible for booking and running Dover meetings?
>
>    - Would people travel to Chatham for a meeting every two months. Would
>    having a regular 'base' be good.
>
>    - How best can we attract members from other groups.
>
>    - With the success of Oggcamp and Barcamps why dont we work and bring
>    something like that to Kent?
>
>
> Thanks
> Your co-ordinator who hasn't done a very good job in the last 12 months
>
> Colin
>
>
> On 5 October 2011 23:36, James Morris <jwm.art.net at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5 October 2011 07:26, Thomas Edward Groves <teg451013 at freeuk.com>
>> wrote:
>> > So KLUG stands for encouraging people to use non-proprietary software
>> > on available hardware to solve their problems.
>> >
>> > Well?
>>
>>
>> Don't hold your breath. We don't all agree so let's just give up.
>> Something like that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Tom
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: James Morris <jwm.art.net at gmail.com>
>> > To: Kent Linux User Group - General Topics <kent at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:32 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Klug-general] Re-branding the 'L' in LUG
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4 October 2011 08:04, Dan Attwood <danattwood at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=OS%26U
>> >>> >
>> >>> > to lead to meaningful results?
>> >>> >
>> >>> Please tell me you're not making decisions about what can and can't
>> be
>> >>> mentioned in KLUG "marketing" based on those search results.
>> >>>
>> >> If the suggested wording is:
>> >> To encourage the Use of OS&U software within Kent and Beyond.
>> >
>> > But no one suggested using that wording in that way. It was shorthand
>> > used in a discussion thread amongst knowledgeable people, not leaflets
>> > aimed at attracting new users to Linux.
>> >
>> > Just to remind about what I responded to:
>> >
>> >> if broadening participation is the idea that I'd suggest the gnu and
>> unix
>> >> aren't mentioned at all as both are elitist. no term should used
>> >> that doesn't come in the first page of google.
>> >
>> > and to say I think Google has enough power already.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4 October 2011 08:45, Peter Childs <pchilds at bcs.org> wrote:
>> >> Terms,
>> >> I don't think any of these terms work.
>> >> Open Source - People know what that might be.
>> >> Floss - Thats what you use to shave right@
>> >> OSS = Open Source Software except its not just software.....
>> >> Free = Is that Free as in £0.00 or Free as in Freedom.
>> >> Unix = As in not Dos? But thats a technical term
>> >> Non-Windows - But we use X-Windows Its a terrible term. And we have
>> > nothing
>> >> against Windows really so long as people use the right tool for the
>> right
>> >> job.
>> >> The list continues.
>> >
>> > Luckily, the human race developed the ability to learn. My problem is
>> > that I don't like to see freedom and openness pushed aside as if it
>> > weren't important. Encouraging cultural exchange is one of the
>> > strengths behind what the above terms refer to, and I don't think
>> > these things should be hidden away as if they're dirty or something.
>> >
>> > I also agree with Sharon to some extent. This is the Kent Linux User
>> > Group after all. We can't really change that, ie what would happen to
>> > this mailing list, the domain name, etc?
>> >
>> > James.
>> >
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